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02:28:17 <abhixec> I am trying to understand the drawer layout I tried the code snippet that is provided in the doc but it doesn't yield the desired result or atleast what I think is desired result!
02:28:57 <abhixec> when I move to the layout rhythmbox still opens as a pane in a normal tall layout, shouldn't it be on top according to the document?
02:34:18 <jakefromstatefar> I don't use that, but I previewed that, and yes, it should...
02:35:12 <jakefromstatefar> mc47: in your xmonad config, where you pipe things to xmobar: `#2E3440:0` is used as the bg color, if I add `:0` to a color, it doesn't appear transparent...
02:35:24 <jakefromstatefar> Is this how you achieve your transparent xmobar approach?
02:35:30 <jakefromstatefar> Or, is that somewhere else?
02:35:45 <jakefromstatefar> I know that you also use an xpm icon, is that crucial?
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06:44:54 <mc47[m]> jakefromstatefarm I don't have transparency, it's completely broken in xmobar. I'm just matching the color of the background, and the xpm icon is just to achieve the rounded edges
06:57:40 <Solid> FOSSHuman[m]: if you use the git version, you could look at https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.16.999/XMonad-Util-Hacks.html#v:trayAbovePanelEventHook
06:58:00 <Solid> it says that its for trayer but you can supply an arbitrary `Query' for the tray
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07:31:42 <liskin> it also says that it requires both to lower themselves reliably
07:32:14 <liskin> so I'm afraid it won't work, but it may perhaps be used as a starting point of a different solution for this
07:32:35 <liskin> also worth noting that manageHook won't fire for overrideredirect windows, so doLower in manageHook won't work either
07:32:40 <FOSSHuman[m]> <Solid> "FOSS Human: if you use the git..." <- Just added this to my config along with setting `lowerOnStart`, `overrideRedirect` in the XMobar config and setting `window_layer = bottom` in the stalonetray config file, same thing is happening...
07:32:42 <liskin> looks like a bug in stalonetray though
07:33:18 <liskin> or a misconfiguration thereof
07:34:07 <Solid> perhaps it also has an `-l` option, like trayer?
07:35:47 <liskin> there's only --window-layer, which won't work in xmonad
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07:36:35 <liskin> but we could add a hack to X.U.Hacks that calls lowerWindow for EWMH bottom layer :-)
07:38:01 <FOSSHuman[m]> stalonetray xprop output: https://pastebin.com/JSatDTqq
07:41:27 <liskin> oh, that may not be an overrideredirect window, it's probably just doIgnored by manageDocks, so a doLower managehook may actually work
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08:24:31 <Solid> liskin: emacs tells me to ping you about #605
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11:21:23 <Guest60> hi, how to unmap all key bindings in xmonad?
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11:22:03 <geekosaur> xmonad { … , keys = fromList [], … }
11:23:10 <geekosaur> actually hold on a moment
11:23:17 <Guest60> thanks, i will try!
11:24:04 <geekosaur> rightm it's actually const (fromList [])
11:24:41 <geekosaur> forgot it gets passed a copy of the config so it can retrieve the current modMask
11:25:31 <Guest60> oh
11:25:32 <Guest60> xmonad.hs:38:29: error:
11:25:33 <Guest60> Variable not in scope:
11:25:33 <Guest60> fromList
11:25:34 <Guest60> :: [a0]
11:25:34 <Guest60> -> XConfig Layout
11:25:35 <Guest60> -> Data.Map.Internal.Map (ButtonMask, KeySym) (X ())
11:25:35 <Guest60> |
11:25:36 <Guest60> 38 | , keys = fromList []
11:25:36 <Guest60> | ^^^^^^^^
11:25:37 <Guest60> Please check the file for errors.
11:26:11 <geekosaur> hm, no, Data.Map iusn't imported for you by default. you also need the const thing I just mentioned
11:26:33 <geekosaur> impoirt qualified Data.Map as M, then it's const (M.fromList [])
11:26:40 <geekosaur> *import
11:28:15 <Solid> (obviously be careful starting xmonad in such a state :))
11:29:09 <Guest60> xmonad.hs:41:30: error:
11:29:09 <Guest60> • Couldn't match expected type: XConfig Layout
11:29:10 <Guest60> -> M.Map (ButtonMask, KeySym) (X ())
11:29:10 <Guest60> with actual type: M.Map k0 a0
11:29:11 <Guest60> • Possible cause: ‘M.fromList’ is applied to too many arguments
11:29:11 <Guest60> In the ‘keys’ field of a record
11:29:12 <Guest60> In the second argument of ‘($)’, namely
11:29:12 <Guest60> ‘def
11:29:13 <Guest60> {modMask = myModMask, terminal = myTerminal,
11:29:13 <Guest60> borderWidth = myBorderWidth, normalBorderColor = myNormColor,
11:29:14 <Guest60> focusedBorderColor = myFocuColor, startupHook = myStartUpHook,
11:29:14 <Guest60> keys = (M.fromList [])}’
11:29:15 <Guest60> In the expression:
11:29:15 <Guest60> xmonad
11:29:16 <Guest60> $ def
11:29:16 <Guest60> {modMask = myModMask, terminal = myTerminal,
11:29:17 <Guest60> borderWidth = myBorderWidth, normalBorderColor = myNormColor,
11:29:17 <Guest60> focusedBorderColor = myFocuColor, startupHook = myStartUpHook,
11:29:26 <geekosaur> ok, so you ignored my adding const twice
11:29:35 <geekosaur> also, please use a pastebin for large pastes
11:29:39 <geekosaur> @where pastre
11:29:39 <lambdabot> I know nothing about pastre.
11:29:41 <geekosaur> bah
11:29:46 <geekosaur> @where paste
11:29:46 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
11:29:46 <Solid> :D
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11:30:21 <geekosaur> const (M.fromList [])
11:30:24 <Guest60> sorry, my english isn't so good, what means const?
11:30:29 <geekosaur> the "const" is not decoration
11:30:33 <geekosaur> it's a function
11:30:36 <geekosaur> :t const
11:30:37 <lambdabot> a -> b -> a
11:31:01 <Guest60> wow, it works!
11:31:04 <Guest60> thanks a lot
11:31:06 <geekosaur> here it's shorthand for consuming and ignoring an additional argment
11:33:55 <geekosaur> what problem are you having that you need to disable the default bindings? any you specify will override the ones provided by default, so normally they shouldn't be a problem
11:35:07 <Guest60> i want to make custom bindings
11:35:57 <Guest60> i think defaults are some illogical
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11:37:37 <geekosaur> the defaults are a bit eclectic, I think the core ones come from vi
11:37:44 <geekosaur> hjkl
11:39:18 <geekosaur> xmonad kinda started out as assuming the user was fairly proficient in unix and its idiosyncrasies, and we're gradually cleaning that up as its user base has changed
11:39:50 <geekosaur> (sorry if I'm making you refer to a dictionary :)
11:40:53 <Guest60> uuuf yes
11:41:21 <Guest60> i don't know what mean eclectic in my language
11:41:45 <alternateved> Btw. where in the source code could you find keybindings?
11:41:51 <alternateved> Where are they defined?
11:42:13 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/src/XMonad/Config.hs
11:42:40 <alternateved> Thanks. I should've checked repo not docs then.
11:43:12 <alternateved> Weirdly enough, I was also thinking about unbinding some of them, so thanks Guest60 for bringing that up.
11:43:13 <Solid> If you want docs then just press M-?
11:43:50 <geekosaur> alternateved, there's also `removeKeys` and `removeKeysP`
11:44:03 <geekosaur> in XMonad.Util.EZConfig
11:44:05 <Solid> yeah these are good for unbinding some of them
11:44:42 <Guest60> geekosaur you advice helped omg
11:44:56 <alternateved> Oh, yeah, that would be even better. I only need to unbind the default modm + h,l
11:47:45 <liskin> Solid: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=X.Org-Server-21.1-RC2
11:48:20 <liskin> so timing is still good I guess
11:48:34 <Solid> awesome
11:48:39 <liskin> Solid: thanks for the ping re #605, I'll work on it this afternoon
11:48:52 <Solid> well let's get it out by... the end of mid October :)
11:49:01 <liskin> (plants have survived, so I'm not as sad as I expected :-))
11:49:08 <Solid> \o/
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11:53:23 <Solid> btw, any opinions on this https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-web/pull/40 are most welcome (especially regarding the logo thingy)
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11:55:33 <liskin> it's still in my inbox, but I have no strong opinions on any of that, so I decided it'd be best if I focused elsewhere :-/
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11:56:42 <Solid> that's fair
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12:53:33 <Guest23> i need help
12:53:35 <Guest23> again
12:53:37 <Guest23> https://pastebin.com/8R4PeFWR
12:54:50 <geekosaur> looks like you're missing a "qualified" on the import of XMonad.StackSet?
12:57:34 <Guest23> how did you guess omg
12:58:09 <geekosaur> because of your collision, and that it showed the StackSet import as "W" so you had that part right
12:58:17 <geekosaur> so just missing the "qualified"
12:58:39 <Guest23> thanks
12:59:04 <geekosaur> it is not unusual for modules to have overlapping names in them, so for example StackSet and Data.Map are both designed to be imported qualified, since both have collisions with other functions
12:59:32 <Guest23> intresting
12:59:35 <geekosaur> (Data.Map has *lots* of collisions with the list functions in the Prelude)
13:00:25 <geekosaur> the first thing everyone thinks of with that one is using abstraction to make the same functions work with Maps and lists, sadly that turns out to not work well *and* be fairly slow)
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13:26:04 <Guest23> how to make switching between workspaces?
13:27:51 <geekosaur> are you the same one who asked how to clear your bindings earlier? this might be part of why we don't do that normally :)
13:29:21 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/src/XMonad/Config.hs#L229-L233 is how it's defined by default, but it's phrased as a somewhat fancy list comprehension
13:29:32 <Guest23> yyaaa thats me
13:29:42 <geekosaur> W.view or W.greedyView are the functions you use
13:29:46 <Guest23> i tried to make it like in basic conf
13:29:50 <Guest23> but errors
13:30:25 <geekosaur> there's also a fancier version in https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Actions/CycleWS.hs
13:31:04 <geekosaur> (no, you don't need to run the git version to get that, it's unchanged)
13:34:51 <Guest23> https://pastebin.com/qrGUWnDC
13:35:07 <Guest23> i remove conf and i have another error
13:36:57 <alternateved> You could just create your own list of workspaces.
13:37:38 <Guest23> i made myWorkspaces = [1..9]
13:38:15 <alternateved> | (i, k) <- zip myWorkspaces [xK_1 .. xK_9]
13:38:30 <geekosaur> I think almost everything expects workspace tags to be String, not numbers
13:38:37 <geekosaur> so map show [1..9]
13:38:50 <alternateved> Ah, right
13:39:06 <geekosaur> the conf error is because the default config builds the configuration separately so it can reference it like thta later
13:39:07 <alternateved> myWorkspaces = map show [1..9]
13:39:44 <geekosaur> *like that
13:40:34 <alternateved> I think Guest23 that you would have much better time with EZConfig module
13:41:01 <Guest23> i use EZConfig
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13:41:39 <Guest23> i just don't know how to switch workspaces with EXConfig
13:41:44 <geekosaur> alternatived, the list comprehension doesn't fit well with EZConfig
13:42:05 <alternateved> Doesn't it?
13:42:27 <geekosaur> you can do it but it's more painful imo
13:42:35 <alternateved> https://pastebin.com/nnAF2d6K
13:42:41 <alternateved> I use something like that
13:43:02 <Guest23> https://pastebin.com/snK3dnfM
13:43:59 <alternateved> Yeah, I guess that since you are using EZConfig, you might have some troubles with types there.
13:44:14 <geekosaur> oki, that looks like you're already using EZConfig and you want alternateved's solution
13:44:33 <geekosaur> not the (KeyMask,KeySym)-based one
13:45:32 <alternateved> My solution only cares about workspaces order.
13:46:11 <alternateved> So whatever you have in your workspaces, it should assign the respective keys
13:48:35 <alternateved> I play with DynamicWorkspaces so that is why I have it setup like that
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17:47:06 <jakefromstatefar> Using some python, bash, and an xmobarrc + boxes, I made a vertical volume bar
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17:59:47 <liskin> jakefromstatefar: doesn't xmobar support vertical bars out of the box?
18:00:36 <liskin> "Variables that can be used with the -t/--template argument: volume, volumebar, volumevbar, volumeipat, dB, status, volumestatus"
18:00:41 <liskin> > volumevbar
18:00:43 <lambdabot> error: Variable not in scope: volumevbar
18:11:14 <liskin> mc47[m]: just noticed that pprWindowSetXinerama is included in "Internal formatting functions" in X.H.S.PP, but it's really only used in dynamicLogXinerama and completely unrelated to the PP datatype and stuff, maybe it's worth moving it back there and then waiting whether people come screaming that we've deprecated something they use (as dynamicLogXinerama doesn't really have an equivalent in the
18:11:16 <liskin> new framework)
18:11:56 <liskin> not that I expect anyone to come, as dynamicLogXinerama only works if one actually pipes (as in literally having "xmonad | xmobar" in .xsession) it to xmobar
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18:43:16 <mc47> liskin: yes let's move it to X.H.DynamicLog
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18:50:26 <alternat`> Is there any way to debug xmonad crashes?
18:52:26 <geekosaur> check its stdout which should be the session log, wherever your distro puts that (on the original vt if you use startx); if there's a core dump prepare for some fun time with gdb and the bug is almost certainly in the X11 bindings
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19:11:25 <jakefromstatefar> <liskin> "jakefromstatefarm: doesn't..." <- No, its bars are horizontal.
19:15:11 <geekosaur> (tracing back the crash will only work up to a point and gdb might become very confused after the first few stack frames. might also have to install some debug symbols for X11 packages and potentially rebuild xmonad-contrib and its dependencies with -g/--debug)
19:15:43 <alternat`> It might be the issue with the QueueReader
19:16:27 <geekosaur> anyway I would be surprised if a crash originates within xmonad, all user code paths should trap exceptions and core dumps in Haskell code not involving FFI calls are almost always ghc bugs
19:17:01 <geekosaur> FFI calls are much more likely
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19:17:49 <jakefromstatefar> There we go, I inverted it, using `[`, and the bg color as the bar, but from the top instead.
19:18:56 <alternat`> Thanks geekosaur - my friend has some random crashes after incorporating xmobar into xmonad with QueueReader. I'll pass your advice.
19:20:03 <geekosaur> and it's xmonad that's crashing, not xmobar?
19:26:39 <alternat`> Yeah, it's seems that it's xmonad.
19:27:18 <alternat`> One of his xmobars also seems to not refresh the time, so the TQueue setup might not be working.
19:29:00 <mc47> Solid, liskin: since the DynamicLog seems to be taken care of, anything else I should take a look at?
19:29:15 <mc47> (btw, I think we shouldn't include the prompt refactor in 0.17)
19:30:00 <mc47> (we should hold off any big changes right now, and only accept bug fixes or new independent modules)
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19:31:08 <mc47> If nothing is pressing, I'll direct my efforts into coming up with a governance proposal
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19:32:26 <mc47> (I'm gonna be bored to death this weekend since I have an oral project management exam next week after spending a whole week just studying project management each day... so yeah, I'll do something fun like working on xmonad when I want to take a break)
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19:43:36 <liskin> mc47: I'm going to post my review on #605 in the next hour or so
19:44:09 <liskin> that might need your attention then, for another hour or something :-)
19:45:54 <liskin> geekosaur: re these xmonad/xmobar crashes, some context you probably don't have: what these folks are doing is running xmobar as a thread in the xmonad process, passing data via STM instead of pipes/props
19:46:29 <mc47> alrighty then
19:47:14 <liskin> (I find it quite cool that it's technically possible to do something like that, and I know better than to comment on whether it's sane to do or not, it's probably just people having fun exploring what's possible)
19:47:46 <alternateved> Yeah, pretty much.
19:48:28 <liskin> mc47: what we possibly need a bit more than the governance docs is some update of README.md and CONTRIBUTING.md across our repos, if you need more ideas to choose from
19:48:56 <liskin> and if everything goes well, I should start a very intense EWMH hackathon tomorrow :-)
19:49:36 <mc47> Hmm, what about slashing `X.D.Developing` and just relying on CONTRIBUTING.md?
19:50:32 <liskin> X.D.Developing has stuff that doesn't usually go into CONTRIBUTING.md
19:50:47 <liskin> so if anything, you'd need to move half of it into ARCHITECTURE.md or something
19:51:07 <liskin> CONTRIBUTING needs to be short enough for people to actually read it
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19:51:42 <mc47[m]> Alright, convinced
19:53:24 <liskin> (:-)
19:53:33 <liskin> s/^\(//
20:03:25 <geekosaur> ok, that makes a fairly big difference and indeed I'm not sure now whether we're uncovering bugs in STM or the crash is just in non-exception-managed code throwing an STM exception
20:03:45 <geekosaur> gdb won't be helpful there, probably. profiling + -RTS -xc might
20:09:15 <geekosaur> (have to admit I was wondering wtf QueueReader was, and was trying to search xmobar docs. which are now annoying because the README is no longer the whole manual and the only obvious replacement is now a quickstart doc)
20:12:15 <Solid> plugins.org is where the plugins are documented now
20:13:39 <liskin> hm, yeah, I also often swear when I need to look up something in xmobar docs :-/
20:14:06 <liskin> a table of contents at the top of readme.org would probably help me a lot
20:14:49 <alternateved> There is some table of contents on xmobar page
20:15:00 <alternateved> *a table
20:15:15 <geekosaur> yeh, it's there, somewhat down from the top and not entirely clear that gets you the whole old manual
20:15:16 <liskin> xmobar.org is just showing an outdated readme I think
20:15:42 <alternateved> Yeah, it is.
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20:24:49 <Solid> adding TOCs to the necessary files sounds reasonable though
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20:27:39 <kdecay> Hello there
20:27:45 <geekosaur> œ
20:28:12 <kdecay> let me start by thanking you @geekosaur :D
20:29:26 <geekosaur> you're welcome
20:30:34 <alternateved> small disclaimer: kdecay is a friend that had a problem with the crashes
20:31:14 <geekosaur> I'd wonder if there's some code path that needs a userdef around it to catch STM exceptions
20:33:20 <geekosaur> even though, strictly speaking, it's not user-defined code
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20:35:16 <liskin> I don't think there are that many code paths to think about
20:35:38 <liskin> it's probably just logHook, unless they're doing something more interesting
20:35:48 <kdecay> I'll try to debug my config and see if I can find something interesting. Could also very well be a user error by me. Is anyone of you using the TQueue for their xmobar?
20:36:12 <liskin> (like e.g. a separate thread with a timer or something, which is what my setup would probably do if I was a Haskell programmer rather than a bash programmer, lol)
20:37:21 <geekosaur> logHook should already be wrapped in userCode, I think; I'm suspecting some other path, possibly in the xmobar part, that needs to trap and recover from STM exceptions
20:39:37 <liskin> xmobar quite likely just ignores any exceptions
20:40:18 <liskin> everything runs in its own thread, started via https://hackage.haskell.org/package/async-2.2.4/docs/Control-Concurrent-Async.html#v:async, but not waited on, so exceptions aren't re-raised in the main thread
20:40:38 <liskin> plugins like StdinReader explicitly exit(0)
20:41:58 <liskin> (I'm not entirely sure the exception handling in the timer coalescing code I wrote is correct, though; it's a complicated mess; probably irrelevant though)
20:46:40 <liskin> mc47[m]: do you (or anyone else) use haskell-language-server when hacking on xmonad(-contrib)? how do you deal with the library vs. test-suite ambiguity?
20:48:22 <liskin> I use implicit-hie to generate the hie.yaml here and sometimes HLS thinks one module is part of the test suite and another is part of the library, so I need to reload the whole thing for it to pick up changes :-/
21:00:26 <mc47> liskin it just works, without hie.yaml
21:00:50 <mc47> I get a warning that I should consider creating a hie.yaml file if I get a Multi Cradle error
21:01:39 <mc47> oh and I have a very weird error when I launch it the first time from emacs, and I need to restart emacs, then it works fine
21:01:52 <mc47> haven't had the time to debug it properly
21:02:51 <mc47> Not that happy with HLS if I'm being honest, but that's the option with the least overhead right now (dante.el isn't maintained anymore, and it was great)
21:05:04 <liskin> hm, I wonder what happens behind the scenes without a hie.yaml
21:05:23 <liskin> unfortunately it's not really an option for me as I don't use the stack.yaml from the repos
21:05:46 <liskin> mc47: so when you're editing the tests, does hls still work for you?
21:06:19 <geekosaur> I thought it used some hie-boot thing to generate an internal default one
21:06:28 <geekosaur> but I'm not much for IDEs
21:06:48 <mc47> liskin: yep, tried completion and jumping to definitions
21:07:40 <liskin> geekosaur: it probably does, yeah
21:08:55 <liskin> I'd be surprised if the autogenerated cradles were that much different than the ones I have here
21:09:22 <liskin> we do have overlapping source paths, there's no going around that
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21:47:00 <Guest41> Hi there!
21:47:21 <Guest41> I'm having issues getting xmonad to recompile on arch
21:48:14 <alternateved> Are you using package from AUR?
21:49:01 <Guest41> I've installed it with ghcup / cabal
21:49:36 <alternateved> What do you mean by issues?
21:50:00 <Guest41> xmonad.hs:1:1: error:
21:50:00 <Guest41> Could not find module ‘XMonad’
21:50:01 <Guest41> Perhaps you meant DsMonad (needs flag -package-key ghc-8.10.4)
21:50:01 <Guest41> Use -v (or `:set -v` in ghci) to see a list of the files searched for.
21:50:02 <Guest41> |
21:50:02 <Guest41> 1 | import XMonad
21:50:03 <Guest41> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
21:51:11 <FOSSHuman[m]> Guest41 You should read: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/INSTALL.md
21:52:10 <FOSSHuman[m]> Specifically: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/INSTALL.md#build-xmonad
21:55:02 <FOSSHuman[m]> There's also a TUTORIAL.md in the same repo
21:55:18 <Guest41> i've tried to follow that, and it seemed to work for a while. But broke down somehow :/
21:56:00 <FOSSHuman[m]> * same repo: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/TUTORIAL.md
21:58:23 <Guest41> does xmonad depend on specific versions of ghc? I've installed haskell for cardano (8.10.4), and wanted to also try out xmonad.
22:03:23 <geekosaur> we test it with a number of ghc versions, should include 8.10.4
22:04:02 <mc47> Guest41 it's generally not a good idea to manage project dependencies globally
22:04:13 <mc47> (and not just with Haskell)
22:04:16 <geekosaur> if you install using cabal, you either need to use a cabal-based build script or `cabal install --lib xmonad xmonad-contrib`
22:05:27 <geekosaur> I prefer the former, there's a suitable buildscript (which you may need to edit) at https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-testing/blob/master/build-scripts/build-with-cabal.sh
22:07:57 <geekosaur> the buildscript expects an xmonad.project file in the same directory and the xmonad and xmonad-contrib checkouts beside it if you're running from git; also a cabal file for your xmonad.hs
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22:09:27 <liskin> I think what Guest41 is experiencing can actually happen with the instructions we have in INSTALL.md
22:10:08 <liskin> cabal install --lib might break when the deps are updated, even with --package-env
22:10:36 <liskin> and the solution, if I remember correctly, is to delete the package env files
22:10:48 <liskin> which I don't remember the names of
22:11:15 <liskin> something like ~/.xmonad/.ghc.environment.x86_64-linux-8.8.3
22:11:39 <geekosaur> I thought they went under ~/.ghc
22:11:43 <liskin> Guest41: can you give that a try? if it works, we absolutely need to document that
22:11:53 <liskin> geekosaur: they go wherever --package-env says they should
22:11:57 <geekosaur> and if there are updates you need to delete the earlier lines or it will use those
22:12:22 <liskin> and we recommend using --package-env so that ghc invoked from ~/.xmonad will pick it up automatically
22:12:29 <liskin> (because xmonad --recompile invokes ghc from there)
22:12:35 <geekosaur> sorry, missed that
22:14:00 <Guest41> i have no .ghc.environments in .xmonad, and x86_64-linux-8.10.7 in .ghc
22:15:30 <liskin> Guest41: did you use --package-env when installing xmonad for the first time or just --lib?
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22:16:36 <Guest41> just --lib i think
22:17:06 <liskin> in that case you might need to delete that stuff from ~/.ghc
22:17:20 <liskin> or perhaps cabal has some uninstall subcommand?
22:17:36 <liskin> probably not
22:18:03 <Guest41> would rebuilding it with cabal help?
22:18:44 <liskin> oh yes, that will certianly be necessary either way
22:19:01 <liskin> (we should've started with that actually :-))
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22:21:59 <Guest41> and should mod+q do the same as running xmonad --recompile?
22:22:50 <Guest41> because that does nothing, and running --recompile in terminal shows the error
22:23:48 <liskin> well it should do the same, but it uses xmessage to show the error, which you possibly don't have?
22:24:13 <liskin> the error from mod+q should also be logged somewhere
22:24:34 <liskin> like .xsession-errors or systemd journal or wherever your session's stderr goes
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22:28:50 <Guest41> what would be the easiest way to see if it works? :)
22:29:01 <Guest41> this is my current config
22:29:02 <Guest41> import XMonad
22:29:03 <Guest41> main = xmonad defaultConfig
22:29:03 <Guest41> { modMask = mod4Mask -- Use Super instead of Alt
22:29:04 <Guest41> , terminal = "alacritty"
22:29:04 <Guest41> }
22:29:48 <liskin> changing the terminal, probably :-)
22:29:52 <Guest41> reinstalling with cabal seemed to help
22:29:53 <liskin> or the modmask
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22:41:17 <Guest31> hello again :)
22:42:17 <Guest31> tried to recompile, and it seems to work after reinstalling, but it doesnt change the config
22:43:23 <Guest31> XMonad will use ghc to recompile, because "/home/ranmacar/.xmonad/build" does not exist. ,
22:43:40 <Guest31> is this normal?
22:43:46 <liskin> yes
22:45:03 <liskin> (although the message is a bit different in the latest version…)
22:45:56 <Guest31> could the problem be in how i start the session?
22:47:01 <Guest31> its just an xmonad.session with exec=xmonad
22:47:29 <Guest31> *xmonad.desktop
22:51:12 <Guest31> changing the terminal and mod+q does nothing
22:51:38 <Guest31> recompiling from terminal works, but doesnt change the terminal
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22:54:59 <Guest31> only restarting the session seems to apply the changes
22:57:06 <geekosaur> ou using the right mod key? if you're still using the one you pasted earlier, it'll be the windows key instead of (left) alt
22:57:18 <geekosaur> *are you using
22:58:52 <Guest31> i think there might be something wrong with my paths :/
22:59:31 <Guest31> will sleep on it :)
22:59:37 <Guest31> thanks everyone
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23:28:12 <FOSSHuman[m]> Hey guys, one of my monitors are old and disconnect sometimes, I was wondering how I would run a script (simple wallpaper setter script using feh) on screen change events, would I use XMonad.Hooks.Rescreen??
23:28:54 <geekosaur> yes
23:31:18 <FOSSHuman[m]> K thanks!!
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