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00:07:02 <abhixec> ah I missed that *facepalm*
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01:25:47 <liskin> uff, #399 is no more and #626 is almost ready for review, I'm almost certain I can finish this tomorrow
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07:06:15 <Solid> ^^^^ good news, everybody!
07:06:38 <Solid> s/body/one/
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15:24:53 <Safeguard-IRC> hello, I have a question: recently I have been toying around with the variouos prompt from xmonad-contrib, and I came across the input prompt; the page makes an example fireEmployee :: String -> (). now, I wanted to make a function that takes the user input and launches a browser with that search query, but I cannot wrap my head around the ?+ operator, can anyone help me in composing it?
15:25:39 <FOSS_Human> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Prompt-Input.html#v:-63--43-
15:28:37 <FOSS_Human> Safeguard-IRC: There's a prompt that already does what you want: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Actions-Search.html
15:29:24 <Safeguard-IRC> wot how did I miss that
15:29:50 <FOSS_Human> lol, no problem
15:34:39 <Safeguard-IRC> okay i've been trying it out, but it does not open my any browser, do I need to declare the Browser type?
15:35:39 <geekosaur> it tries the browser identified by $BROWSER in the environment first
15:35:46 <geekosaur> that's probably not set
15:35:52 <Safeguard-IRC> indeed it's not set
15:36:07 <Safeguard-IRC> but can I use a myBrowser variable declared in xmonad.hs?
15:36:41 <FOSS_Human> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Actions-Search.html#t:Browser
15:36:45 <FOSS_Human> Takes a filepath
15:36:59 <geekosaur> you might just pass the name of a browser (e.g. "chromium") where it wants a Browser
15:37:07 <Safeguard-IRC> ah dumb me, I just put "qutebrowser"
15:39:28 <Safeguard-IRC> it keeps sayingthat it's not in scope as a data constructor, do I need to import anything else beside XMonad.Action.Search ?
15:40:14 <geekosaur> what are you actually doing?
15:40:18 <geekosaur> @where paste
15:40:18 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
15:41:06 <Safeguard-IRC> https://termbin.com/0bn3, line 581 and 463
15:41:29 <Safeguard-IRC> pardon the mess in the file, I need to clean it up
15:43:09 <geekosaur> you don't set Browser, it's the name of a type and can't be assigned to
15:43:25 <liskin> hm, shouldn't https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Prompt-Shell.html#v:getBrowser default to sensible-browser or x-www-browser rather than hardcoding firefox?
15:43:29 <geekosaur> instead, where a function signature asks for a Browser, you pass the string "qutebrowser"
15:43:57 <geekosaur> liskin, probably
15:44:30 <geekosaur> I think debianoids patch it to be "x-www-browser"
15:45:49 <liskin> yeah that's my first thought: that some distros might not have these aliases
15:46:32 <geekosaur> Safeguard-IRC, when you write `Browser = "qutebrowser"`, it does not do an assignment because `Browser` is not a variable, it is a data constructor and there is no such data constructor. And if there were, you wouldn't be able to assign to it; instead it would do a pattern match (except the types don't match so you'd get another compile error)
15:47:05 <Safeguard-IRC> so.. let's see if I got this right: I should redefine promptSearchBrowser like this in my xmonad.hs: promptSearchBrowser :: XPConfig -> "/usr/bin/qutebrowser" -> SearchEngine -> X () ?
15:47:45 <geekosaur> nope
15:48:01 <Safeguard-IRC> okay then I did not understand
15:48:50 <geekosaur> you call promptSearchBrowser as: promptSearchBrowser myXPConfig "qutebrowser" S.google
15:49:02 <geekosaur> (substitute your chosen SearchEngine
15:49:19 <Safeguard-IRC> ... I feel stupid
15:50:34 <geekosaur> rowser is an alias for FilePath, which is itself an alias for String, so you pass a String for that argument
15:50:40 <geekosaur> *Browser
15:52:36 <Safeguard-IRC> okay I got it
15:53:36 <Safeguard-IRC> I've been trying to do the following: browser = "/usr/bin" <> myBrowser, but it does not seem to work. myBrowser is also a String, and putting /usr/bin/qutebrowser works
15:54:00 <FOSS_Human> ??
15:54:11 <Safeguard-IRC> pardon me, let me be more clear
15:54:19 <FOSS_Human> Just declare a function name like: `myBrowser = "/usr/bin/firefox"` ??
15:54:19 <geekosaur> <> doesn't add a slash, so it ends up /usr/binqutebrowser
15:54:42 <Safeguard-IRC> i've mistyped, there is a slash
15:54:51 <Safeguard-IRC> browser :: String
15:54:51 <Safeguard-IRC> browser = "/usr/bin/" <> myBrowser
15:55:21 <Safeguard-IRC> ((altMask, xK_o), promptSearchBrowser myXPConfig browser duckduckgo ),
15:56:40 <geekosaur> @where paste
15:56:40 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
15:56:43 <geekosaur> include the error
15:56:51 <Safeguard-IRC> there is no error, it just does not work
15:57:26 <geekosaur> interesting. there should be no difference
15:57:42 <Safeguard-IRC> line 463, 581 and 582: https://termbin.com/nw3z9
15:59:14 <FOSS_Human> Safeguard-IRC:
15:59:21 <FOSS_Human> myBrowser :: String
15:59:22 <FOSS_Human> myBrowser = "/usr/bin/qutebrowser"
15:59:24 <FOSS_Human> ((altMask, xK_o), promptSearchBrowser myXPConfig myBrowser duckduckgo ),
15:59:25 <FOSS_Human> ??
15:59:31 <Safeguard-IRC> let me try
16:00:06 <Solid> Safeguard-IRC: myBrowser has a space at the end, so it tries to execute /usr/bin/qutebrowser\s
16:00:09 <Solid> which doesn't exist
16:00:26 <geekosaur> yeh, just noticed that
16:00:34 <Safeguard-IRC> FOSS_HUman not working
16:01:06 <Safeguard-IRC> oh wait, I put a space, in myBrowser, now it's working
16:01:07 <geekosaur> get rid of the space, promptSearchBrowser uses safeSpawn so it thinks the space is part of the command name
16:02:05 <Safeguard-IRC> hmhm okay
16:02:56 <Safeguard-IRC> what about the "/usr/bin/" <> myBrowser, it fails because it puts a \s at the end?
16:03:17 <geekosaur> myBrowser had the space in it, so it was just copied over
16:03:26 <Safeguard-IRC> let me try
16:03:28 <geekosaur> <> doesn't know you expected it to skip the space
16:04:12 <Safeguard-IRC> yeah now it works, thank you all
16:04:46 <Safeguard-IRC> another question: If I ever manage to make a irc bridge, will a IRC<->Telegram bridge be allowed here?
16:06:19 <geekosaur> suspect we'd want to discuss that on the mailing list with everyone else involved; not everyone is on here at the same time (I think I only overlap with mc47 during my evening, for example)
16:06:48 <Safeguard-IRC> yes yes I get it
16:06:50 <FOSS_Human> Dunno about everyone else but it's 5pm for me here in the UK rn
16:07:19 <geekosaur> 12:07 US/Eastern
16:07:31 <Safeguard-IRC> 6:07 in It
16:07:46 <FOSS_Human> Wow big time differences lol
16:08:00 <Safeguard-IRC> oh sorry, 6 PM i meant
16:08:06 <FOSS_Human> Oh k
16:08:29 <geekosaur> and I log IRC in UTC becuase in many of the channels I'm in there are even bigger spreads
16:09:48 <Safeguard-IRC> another question: I've been looking at the source of the multi searchengine, and at the end it as (prefixAware google), if I redefine multi with prefixAware duckduckgo, will it default to ddg?
16:10:27 <Safeguard-IRC> or is there a better way to do it?
16:12:16 <Solid> you don't have to redefine anything that X.A.Search already defines
16:12:36 <Safeguard-IRC> but how I would make multi define to ddg then?
16:12:48 <Solid> the docs for !> show an example of how to define your own multi search engine: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Actions-Search.html#v:-33--62-
16:13:21 <Safeguard-IRC> aaaah
16:13:24 <FOSS_Human> Wow cool!, I might add this to my setup aswell
16:13:33 <Safeguard-IRC> today I really can't read
16:13:46 <Safeguard-IRC> I'm sorry haha, I shoud look more carefully at the docs
16:14:53 <geekosaur> searchEngineF takes a function that can build arbitrary search engines, that's the closest you come to needing to modify code
16:15:08 <geekosaur> but for most cases !> covers what you want
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16:17:34 <Safeguard-IRC> ..it's not working, I defined multiengine like this: multiEngine = intelligent (wikipedia !> duckduckgo !> youtube !>amazon !> (prefixAware duckduckgo))
16:17:34 <Safeguard-IRC> but typing like youtube:test, youtube: test, youtube test just opens ddg with that query
16:18:39 <Safeguard-IRC> just uusing multi works tough
16:19:36 <geekosaur> it's youtube:test
16:20:14 <Safeguard-IRC> yes,still not working, see the first example
16:20:33 <geekosaur> sorry, missed that
16:20:35 <geekosaur> hm
16:23:23 <Safeguard-IRC> well for now it's not needed, since I use mostly ddg's bangs
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16:27:50 <Solid> lol
16:27:55 <Solid> yeah it's a bug in X.A.Search
16:28:41 <Solid> how the !> operator associates is not specified and so it associates to the left by default
16:29:02 <Solid> which then mangles names when combining search engines like s1 !> s2 !> s3
16:29:15 <Solid> mulit sensibly folds to the right so it doesn't have that behaviour
16:32:40 <Safeguard-IRC> hm I think I see
16:34:12 <Safeguard-IRC> well, thank you all for your help, and sorry for beign so dumb
16:34:13 <Solid> the tl;dr is to specify your search engines as `multiEngine = intelligent (foldr1 (!>) [wikipedia, youtube, amazon, prefixAware duckduckgo])' for now
16:34:29 <Safeguard-IRC> Solid let me try
16:34:46 <Solid> (you might have to import Data.List or something for foldr1)
16:36:04 <Safeguard-IRC> I have already Data.List imported ^^ matter of fact I was wrangling with it before, if you see my {single,dual}Mon functions I use intercalate. but apparently there is a type mismatch if I add to dualMon systray, since it's X() and intercalate makes them char (?)
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16:37:19 <Safeguard-IRC> Solid: yep that is working, thanks
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17:13:15 <liskin> $ make -C ~/.xmonad-testing .sub/xmonad-something
17:13:33 <liskin> how could I lived without something like this :-)
17:14:04 <liskin> creates a subdir, three git workdirs (X11, xmonad, xmonad-contrib), dummy xmonad.hs, Makefile, and builds that
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18:26:17 <Solid> sounds like a good addition to scripts/ :)
18:28:05 <liskin> it's rather tied to my spiderweb of dotfiles Makefiles
18:28:48 <Solid> ah I see
18:30:53 <Safeguard-IRC> I'm back with two more questions: is there something akin to showwsname but for generic purpose? like, I have a submap, and when I press the keystroke to trigger it (control space) I would like to have a little popup showing the options
18:32:51 <Safeguard-IRC> the second question is: how do I map something to the question mark and exclamation key? I tried xK_question, but it does not seem to be working
18:36:52 <alternateved> I think you would need something akin to (modMask .|. shiftMask, xK_slash)
18:37:06 <Solid> 1. I don't believe something like this exists (well, there's of course things like X.U.XUtils, but these basically amount to libraries for drawing arbitrary things)
18:37:46 <alternateved> The same goes for exclamation key - you would need to start with `1` key
18:37:57 <alternateved> but it depends of course on your keyboard layout
18:38:01 <Safeguard-IRC> us
18:38:42 <alternateved> So what I've advised should apply
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18:38:49 <Safeguard-IRC> since I have it on a submap I do control-space, then shift+1 to make exclamation mark or shift+/ to make question mark but both don't work
18:39:04 <Safeguard-IRC> let me try
18:39:07 Solid was playing around with the idea of something like a popup for submaps a while ago but didn't have enough motivation to finish it
18:39:12 <Solid> maybe I'll pick that back up after the release
18:39:37 <Solid> would give me a chance to perhaps look into making X.U.XUtils a bit more ergonomic in places
18:40:33 <Safeguard-IRC> alternateved yeah that worked.I feel it's a bit hacking, but hey it works
18:41:20 <alternateved> As far as I know, this is how it works for most X window managers
18:41:35 <Safeguard-IRC> about the arbitrary showing I need to look at XMonad.Utils.XUtils?
18:43:25 <Solid> you'd essentially need to write it yourself
18:43:42 <Safeguard-IRC> hmm.. I think a stumpwm approach is better for my sanity then lol
18:44:00 <Safeguard-IRC> like bind control-space ? to make a little yad popup (which is what i'm using right now)
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18:50:59 <geekosaur> there are smarter window managers which recognize the need to add shift, but they then have more problems with keyboards that have alternative mappings
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19:21:02 <mc47> For some reason, reddit is suggesting r/de_DEV as a "deutsche Version von r/xmonad" lol
19:21:18 <mc47> s/DEV/EDV
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19:53:36 <Solid> lol
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21:17:56 <liskin> mc47[m]: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Doc/Extending.hs#L1904 is still after #593
21:20:03 <liskin> I mean, the section does mention StatusBar briefly, but it doesn't appear to reflect that DynamicLog is not the recommended interface now
21:21:09 <geekosaur> it even suggests the old DynamicLog interface that assumes you run xmonad | xmobar
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23:57:59 <liskin> my yesterday's optimism of finishing #626 today was perhaps a bit clouded by not thinking straight at 3:30 in the morning :-/
23:58:33 <liskin> actually 2:30, but I didn't fall asleep until 4
23:59:10 <liskin> anyway, the only missing bit is adjustment of X.H.Focus docs, so I'm gonna get some sleep today and hopefully do it tomorrow morning :-)

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