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| 08:39:10 | <Solid> | I suppose it was the latter |
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| 09:59:39 | <davve> | aw desantra left |
| 09:59:52 | <davve> | would have told him that you need to compile polybar from source probably |
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| 10:20:40 | <jceb[m]> | Hi guys. Is there a way to find out from outside xmonad which screen is currently focused by xmonad? I'd like to move a window from an unfocused screen to the currently selected screen |
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| 10:56:23 | <geekosaur> | jceb[m], not easily. there are ways to get DynamicLog to disgorge that information (and my personal config does so) but EWMH doens't have that concept |
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| 12:05:05 | <geekosaur> | courtesy of #perryprog in #haskell-beginners: https://changelog.complete.org/archives/7562-i-introduced-my-5-year-old-and-2-year-old-to-startx-and-xmonad-theyre-delighted |
| 12:05:16 | <geekosaur> | if it's still down try via web.archive.org |
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| 12:08:37 | <geekosaur> | (originally from HN) |
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| 12:34:49 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | > 2^999999 |
| 12:34:51 | <lambdabot> | 4950328114647949125348961808150951625366812120893783666433198057265854741654... |
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| 13:00:37 | <tomsmeding> | > showHex (2^999999) "" |
| 13:00:43 | <lambdabot> | mueval-core: Time limit exceeded |
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| 13:03:59 | <Solid> | lol |
| 13:04:16 | <Solid> | good thing it kills it after a while |
| 13:08:47 | <tomsmeding> | apparently quite inefficient implementation of showHex, given that the integer is stored in base 2^32 by gmp... |
| 13:08:59 | <tomsmeding> | or at least, insufficiently specific implementation |
| 13:22:40 | <Solid> | it seems to just call some generic "show this number in some base" function |
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| 13:59:43 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | How to crash lambdabot |
| 13:59:57 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | > 2^9999999 |
| 13:59:58 | <lambdabot> | 4524908653180400150698201333854353678124381194009001337955460796026671874362... |
| 14:00:18 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Nvm |
| 14:01:09 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | I can't delete bad jokes anymore |
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| 14:16:58 | <Solid> | never could ;) |
| 14:20:18 | <geekosaur> | @v |
| 14:20:18 | <lambdabot> | "\"#$%&'()*+,\"" |
| 14:20:55 | <geekosaur> | randomized records of past attempts to abuse lambdabot, before the weakness they were exploiting went away |
| 14:21:04 | <geekosaur> | @v |
| 14:21:04 | <lambdabot> | "\"#$%&'()*+,\"" |
| 14:21:08 | <geekosaur> | @v |
| 14:21:08 | <lambdabot> | "\"#$%&'()*+,\"" |
| 14:21:10 | <jceb[m]> | <geekosaur> "jceb, not easily. there are ways..." <- thank you for the insight. Too bad that the standards don't support it |
| 14:21:14 | <geekosaur> | hm, maybe they removed it |
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| 14:47:55 | <etrigan63[m]> | Can anyone provide insight on how to assign workspaces 1-5 (named with “/xxxx” notation to present icons) to my left monitor and 6-10 on my right monitor? I looked at XMonad.Layout.IndependentScreens but it was not clear. |
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| 14:48:21 | <mc47> | > 2^(2^9999999) |
| 14:48:26 | <lambdabot> | mueval-core: Time limit exceeded |
| 14:48:29 | <mc47> | :) |
| 14:51:20 | <geekosaur> | etrigan63[m], you can't really do that with IndependentScreens as it forces workspace names of the form <screenno>_<wsname> |
| 14:52:11 | <geekosaur> | you can use some coding around the PP to convert that to icon names, but with the old DynamicLog setup it's a bit annoying. I think some of the newer stuff makes it easier, though |
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| 15:09:15 | <Solid> | I think the questions goes more into the direction of keybindings, right? |
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| 17:23:42 | <liskin> | this looks interesting: https://isaacfreund.com/blog/river-intro/ |
| 17:29:19 | <etrigan63[m]> | <geekosaur> "you can use some coding around..." <- I will wait for the newer stuff then. |
| 17:36:46 | <liskin> | and now I feel depressed about not knowing zig and rust and wayland; there's a _lot_ to catch up :-/ |
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| 18:00:32 | <SenranKaguya> | i wasn't aware that a window manager could be referred to as a compositor |
| 18:00:51 | <liskin> | SenranKaguya: it couldn't, in the X11 world |
| 18:00:54 | <SenranKaguya> | seems like wayland combines the two? |
| 18:01:03 | <liskin> | things are different in the Wayland world though |
| 18:01:06 | <geekosaur> | window management is a compositor plugin inn the wayland architecture |
| 18:01:56 | <geekosaur> | basically the compositor plays the role of X11's server, and plugins are clients |
| 18:03:46 | <geekosaur> | (this also means you can't replace the compositor without killing and restarting the session) |
| 18:07:12 | <SenranKaguya> | when i used kde, its compositor would crash frequently. i wonder if that results in the entire session crashing in wayland |
| 18:07:36 | <geekosaur> | it does, but compositors are more stable to begin with: compositors in the X11 world are ugly hacks |
| 18:07:55 | <geekosaur> | that's more or less why the compositor took over the server role in wayland |
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| 18:51:30 | <geekosaur> | etrigan63[m], I believe the newer stuff is already there, just perhaps not as easy to use as it could be |
| 18:52:01 | <geekosaur> | the new PP architecture was one of the last things to be committed before we cut xmonad/xmonad-contrib 0.17 |
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| 18:53:33 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | SenranKaguya (@SenranKaguya:libera.chat): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(display_server_protocol)#Differences_between_Wayland_and_X |
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