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00:25:24 <vrs> liskin: using an xft fontstring
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00:27:13 <vrs> 1024G VIRT, 7116 RES, 3532 SHR respectively 1024G VIRT, 12684 RES, 4328 SHR
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13:46:19 <Arcanus[m]> I am frustration. I believe I have done everything correctly as far as the xmonad stack install goes. HOWEVER....DBus is now a problem...my current xmonad.hs uses DBus to link up with polybar, apparently this is not going to work now because...... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c345deafa902186a9b6dd24cc5042f3af42af44f)
13:46:48 <Arcanus[m]> should I just abandon arch?
13:47:58 <geekosaur> I have no idea. I don't have any problems with it (I use dbus to communicate with an xmonad-log-applet) but (a) I use cabal instead of stack (b) I don't use Arch
13:48:47 <geekosaur> (c) I completely avoid any OS dependencies, aside from C/FFI stuff like the system dbus libs
13:49:11 <fizzie> I don't use Arch, but I do use stack, and didn't have any dbus-related trouble that I can recall.
13:51:28 <fizzie> `build-depends: ... dbus >=1.2 && <1.3 ...` is what I've ended up with in the .cabal file of my config, from somewhere, and that seems to have been enough for importing `DBus` and `DBus.Client`.
13:53:36 <fizzie> (Nothing specifically listed in the stack.yaml file.)
13:55:49 <Arcanus[m]> What distros are yall running now? I am loathe to distro hop, i havent been on arch all that long since switching from ubuntu, but im def not going back to ubuntu, and until now ive been pretty happy with arch
13:56:18 <Arcanus[m]> But this is REALLY annoying
13:57:11 <geekosaur> ubuntu 20.04
13:57:23 <geekosaur> I'm curious as to what drove you away
13:57:56 <geekosaur> I was on Mint until their latest version's installer repeatedly crashed on me while I was building this laptop
14:04:10 <Arcanus[m]> <geekosaur> "I'm curious as to what drove you..." <- I think a lot of it was the snap focus/implimentation. Nothing wrong with snaps per se, but i got realky tired of having multiple versions of software installed on my system and not knowing how the hell to get rid of them (i have since learned how to manage them better) as well as some of canonicals general decisions on the durection of ubuntu just kind of turned me off of the project.
14:04:10 <Arcanus[m]> that and just wanting to try something new after 15 yeats
14:04:18 <Arcanus[m]> ^years
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14:05:21 <thonoht[m]> Arch, still quite happy here. First time Linux as primary os on my new laptop
14:06:56 <fizzie> (Debian sid. If it matters.)
14:08:02 <geekosaur> I kinda soured on debian non-stable the first time it wanted to upgrade glibc and remove literally everything else
14:08:26 <geekosaur> I think they're more careful now but yeesh
14:11:10 <fizzie> I just review the proposed package changes. And also have apt-listbugs installed, so that it warns on upgrade if there are critical bugs open for any to-be-upgraded package. Has been pretty painless for the last couple years, modulo some nvidia non-free driver issues.
14:11:53 <geekosaur> well, yes, I aborted that upgrade. I was still pretty horrified they'd even let that kind of thing through
14:12:07 <geekosaur> and this was testing, not even sid
14:15:58 liskin runs Debian testing becase can't be bothered waiting for apt-listbugs to download stuff
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14:46:39 <kia> hey, just reinstalled xmonad through stack
14:46:53 <kia> was wondering how I would go about updating xmonad when a new version comes out through stack
14:52:06 <thonoht[m]> Changing the version number in build-depends in the .cabal file?
14:53:50 <thonoht[m]> or in the package.yaml if you use that
14:55:15 <kia> right, so changing the version number in stack.yaml, and then running stack install?
14:56:18 <geekosaur> the next new version to come out via stack will almost certainly be with a new resolver, so you'd just switch resolvers
14:56:23 <geekosaur> and then stack install
14:57:51 <kia> alright thanks
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