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10:34:37 <Solid> liskin: stack is smart, but not in a way that's benneficial to us :/ It doesn't seem to care about the projects stack.yaml file, only about the cabal file.
10:34:58 <Solid> If xft specifies a version bound that stack can't find in a snapshot it'll just disable the flag
10:35:20 <Solid> but otherwise it tries to download the newest x11-xft on stackage and doesn't include contrib's extra deps
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11:14:54 <liskin> Solid: in that case we might need to ifdef the new functionality :-/
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12:01:23 <amenonsen> oh look, my new debian box has wayland installed by default.
12:03:14 <amenonsen> is this the time when i bow to the steady march of progress and switch to sway and re-learn everything to do with window management?
12:03:23 <amenonsen> no. no it isn't.
12:07:41 <MrElendig> wayland tend to be installed by default these days on most distroes since it often have to be enabled at compile time and without dynamic/"plugin" style loading at runtime
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16:44:45 <Vermoot> geekosaur, do you remember the problem I had with wine and xmonad fighting for control over a window, or something like that, resulting in my total loss of control over xmonad and need to restart my whole session?
16:45:04 <geekosaur> vaguely, yes
16:45:40 <Vermoot> I'm looking for a workaround allowing me to use said wine software, until a potential fix
16:46:09 <Vermoot> I thought using a floating layout could do the trick but alas that's not the case
16:47:49 <geekosaur> I'd suspect you would need to use xephyr or something
17:09:18 <sn3w[m]> How'd I get system tray in xmonad?
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17:11:11 <geekosaur> trayer, usually
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17:12:18 <Solid> either use a bar that natively supports it or use a third party program yes (or, even better, learn to live without a systray :>)
17:12:36 <geekosaur> see also https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Util-Hacks.html#v:trayerAboveXmobarEventHook which makes it play nicely with xmobar
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17:41:18 <sn3w[m]> <geekosaur> "trayer, usually" <- Sorry for the late reply but how would I set trayer with xmobar?
17:41:30 <sn3w[m]> Is there any guide available on the internet for that?
17:44:34 <sn3w[m]> <Solid> "either use a bar that natively..." <- I can't learn to live without a systray because of different applications (spotify, discord, slack etc) minimize to the systray. I don't find it easy to manually go to htop, kill that process and repeat this process till every instance of the process has been terminated.
17:44:51 <thonoht[m]> The configuration guide mentions how to set it up
17:46:08 <geekosaur> xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html, under "Configuring related utilities" (which directly follows xmobar configuration)
17:46:19 <thonoht[m]> https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html
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17:47:28 <sn3w[m]> thonoht[m]: Did you meant this? #!/bin/sh... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/a45684dd64046cc725e047e70db4035d40012a38)
17:47:52 <sn3w[m]> > <@thonoht:matrix.org> The configuration guide mentions how to set it up
17:47:52 <sn3w[m]> * Did you meant this? https://github.com/jaor/xmobar/issues/239#issuecomment-233206552
17:47:54 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’
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18:06:00 <thonoht[m]> Yeah
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18:15:04 <Solid> sn3w[m]: I admittedly don't use any of these programs, but I would probably just use a scratchpad for them it that was the case
18:20:35 <thonoht[m]> I have no idea how I would work with scratchpads :P But trayer works fine for me so far. sn3w do you get how to use that script?
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18:24:41 <geekosaur> I realy need to push my current config up to github at some point
18:24:56 <geekosaur> although I guess my pyanfar config would work for that too
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18:34:07 liskin uses apps that minimize to the tray but to open them I just launch them "again" using rofi
18:35:01 <liskin> they usually just open the existing instance
18:36:03 <thonoht[m]> I just have some black icons on black, since I couldn't be bothered to figure out how to fix the icon fonts
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18:54:53 <MagnusMX> Hello there I hope everyone is well
18:57:03 <MagnusMX> So, I recently installed xmonad 0.17, I followed the tutorial and now I have the basics, but I have two monitors how can I set one xmobar for each monitor ?
18:58:58 <MrElendig> there are multiple ways to do that, depends a bit on how you want to send data to xmobar, and if you want the two bars to have the same data from xmonad or different data
18:59:46 <MrElendig> if you eg use the statusbar function then you can simply abuse tee if you want them to be identical
19:01:31 <Solid> MagnusMX: X.H.StatusBar has a pretty decent section on multiple status bars: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-StatusBar.html#g:3
19:01:40 <Solid> it's quite intuitive with the new interface
19:12:29 <MagnusMX> I want only one with a tray, the sond without a tary, but I was seeing configs and It seems to use only one xmobarcc filehow can I configure one bar to use certain space and the second to use all space
19:13:02 <MagnusMX> I'm pretty new with xmonad and haskell in general, but I'm going to read
19:16:38 <MagnusMX> and yes, the same data :P
19:16:55 <MagnusMX> thank you all :)
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22:09:32 <Guest81> hello o/ im new to xmonad, i use i3 since many years and i want to switch to xmonad. im having an hard time changing the default shortcuts tho. for example, i would like to move the shortcuts that switch to workspace 1/2/3/4 to Mod + 7/8/9/0. If somebody has a hint to do so, im interested !
22:10:49 <Vermoot> I'm still looking for a way to combine CycleWS and IndependentScreens :(
22:11:41 <geekosaur> Guest81, what do you want to do with the workspaces already on those keys?
22:12:25 <geekosaur> (7/8/9 switch to those workspaces. 0 is available)
22:15:03 <Guest81> geekosaur im not planning to use them, i dont need 10 workspaces
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22:27:30 <geekosaur> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/MwhPJipH
22:27:58 <geekosaur> not perhaps the ideal way to do it in case you plan to change the number of workspaces at some point, but should get you started
22:28:18 <geekosaur> note that it requires xmonad-contrib for additionalKeysP and removeKeysP
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22:31:45 <Guest81> awesome, thank you geekosaur
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