Logs on 2021-12-31 (liberachat/#xmonad)
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| 01:00:43 | <confused> | my xmonad freezes up after a while of window movement. If I resize a window it freezes up after about three seconds. By freeze I mean I cannot focus a new window or move them around, and all apps become uninteractive but still operational (videos will still play). Idk how to check the errors. Nvidia driver on archlinux |
| 01:01:20 | <confused> | does not happen in KDE, I'm building my config with stack |
| 01:05:20 | <geekosaur> | do you use xmobar? |
| 01:07:53 | <geekosaur> | more to the point, do you use DynamicLog to feed xmonad state information to xmobar? |
| 01:08:21 | <geekosaur> | if so, make sure you have StdinReader configured in xmobar or xmonad will hang sending state information that isn't being read |
| 01:08:42 | <geekosaur> | (xmonad 0.17.0 has a new StatusBar interface that does not do this) |
| 01:09:10 | <confused> | not sure, here's my config https://paste.ofcode.org/rKKQkRnUpcSSsvxcPyfgj |
| 01:10:54 | <geekosaur> | line 39 |
| 01:11:54 | <geekosaur> | make sure your xmobar is configured with StdinReader (it won't be by default), or change line 39 to `main = xmonad def` if you don't want what you're not currently seeing anyway |
| 01:13:44 | <geekosaur> | you will also want to add something to start xmobar normally (i.e. not trying to send it status information) |
| 01:14:19 | <geekosaur> | probably just add xmobar to the stuff in your autostart.sh |
| 01:22:17 | <confused> | geekosaur: adding ", Run StdinReader" in xmobarrc fixed it, thanks! |
| 01:45:54 | <geekosaur> | liskin, the above suggests to me something a bit worrying. are we running the logHook (and presumably X.O.windows) more or less continuously during a window move/resize? |
| 01:46:19 | <geekosaur> | (note "freezes up after about three seconds") |
| 01:47:18 | <geekosaur> | there's a flag for a move or resize active in XState, perhaps we should avoid unnecessary calls to X.O.windows while it's set. or is that unsound for some reason? |
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| 01:48:11 | <geekosaur> | perhaps run it once at the start if/when we float the window initially, then once at the end |
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| 01:58:03 | <geekosaur> | made an issue for it, so it doesn't get lost |
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| 04:50:57 | <AIM[m]> | <geekosaur> "(xmonad 0.17.0 has a new..." <- I use the status bar feature of Xmonad 0.17 makes it better |
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| 05:24:43 | <noex> | same. i'm really happy with that feature. |
| 05:31:47 | <AIM[m]> | How do I make Xmobar read from hs file instead of the rc file? |
| 07:05:38 | <noex> | not sure, i'm still using the rc |
| 07:06:14 | <AIM[m]> | Same |
| 07:06:36 | <AIM[m]> | Iwanna use hs file sinceI think that'd allow more configs |
| 07:06:43 | <AIM[m]> | And customization |
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| 08:55:42 | <liskin> | geekosaur: I think it's there to fix a bug |
| 08:56:01 | <liskin> | I vaguely remember seeing something like that in the git history |
| 08:56:45 | <liskin> | I'll check again once I reboot into Linux again :-) |
| 09:09:15 | <liskin> | Or I can just look it up from my phone |
| 09:09:29 | <liskin> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/4565e2c90ef522d23d3afc2cf95b9f0b423d8de4 |
| 09:10:45 | <liskin> | We could update the StackSet without refreshing, possibly, this would avoid the extra windows/logHook invocations. A bit of a hack though |
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| 10:25:24 | <geekosaur> | that's sad |
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| 12:13:38 | <vesuzma> | Hello! I created two ArchLinux bug trackers to upgrade xmonad to 0.17.0. I provided the patch to PKGBUILD. https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/73189 and https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/73190. Who should I contact to make this happen? |
| 12:20:57 | <geekosaur> | couldn't tell you. but you should be aware that arch seems to be desupporting much of the haskell ecosystem because they made such a mess of it |
| 12:21:24 | <geekosaur> | resulting in many people ignoring the arch and aur packages and using ghcup instead |
| 12:22:17 | <Solid> | vesuzma: it explicitly tells you not to report bugs in case of outdated packages ;) |
| 12:22:28 | <Solid> | perhaps try the mailing list or contact the maintainer for these packages directly |
| 12:22:44 | <geekosaur> | this is somewhat less than ideal because of packages like hledger and pandoc (and to a lesser extent xmonad) because users don't want to have to deal with building them themselves, but at this point arch would have to jettison their packages and start over anyway |
| 12:26:07 | liskin | just uses the pandoc binary from Github releases :-/ |
| 12:26:26 | <liskin> | (because Haskell in Debian is just as dead) |
| 12:27:14 | <geekosaur> | yeh, still thinking about offering to be a maintainer |
| 12:27:39 | <geekosaur> | (I assume I'd have to take on a fair amount of stuff beyond xmonad anyway due to dependencies) |
| 12:28:11 | <geekosaur> | sadly I kinda need to get a better handle on my sensory overload issues before I can offer to take on that kind of responsibility |
| 12:31:34 | <vesuzma> | I'm a noob here. I successfully subscribed to arch-dev-public@lists.archlinux.org. I tried to send an email but it got rejected because of "This list is for ArchLinux Development and is not open for public comment". Not sure how I can proceed :). Should I contact the maintainer (felixonmars) directly? |
| 12:32:21 | <geekosaur> | that's how I would start |
| 12:32:42 | <vesuzma> | cool, thanks! |
| 12:32:57 | <geekosaur> | that said, I'mnot an Arch user so I don't really know anything about their conventions |
| 12:33:26 | <Solid> | vesuzma: I don't think felixonmars is the maintainer, they just revbumped it recently |
| 12:33:55 | <Solid> | The package description ( https://archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/xmonad/ ) gives a certain Levente Polyak as the current maintainer |
| 12:34:25 | <geekosaur> | right, the way Arch does things, updating any dependency means revbumping all dependents |
| 12:36:44 | <vesuzma> | oh, I missed that, I swear yesterday I read Felix as a maintainer, thank you! |
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| 12:41:27 | <AIM[m]> | They not yet reached 0.17 :') |
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| 15:16:45 | <geekosaur> | weee, updates time |
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| 18:19:10 | <liskin> | geekosaur: yeah taking additional responsibilities seems to be a rather silly idea at this point :-) |
| 18:20:35 | <liskin> | As I continue with my exercise plan, it becomes clearer and clearer that the problem is the old scaphoid non-union. I wonder if the bone is even salvageable now |
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| 18:55:08 | <noex> | ended up getting the PR worked out https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/23597 nothing yet though |
| 18:57:31 | <noex> | liskin: well, if it makes you feel any better, you are not alone. i'm in my 30's and decided to improve my health by running. i got a mystery injury and just had hip surgery. sometimes I feel like i'm 34 going on 65. |
| 18:59:31 | <noex> | what they thought was the problem wasn't the problem, so after I recover from this, I may still not be able to run. it sucks. |
| 18:59:48 | <noex> | liskin: is there anything they can do for you? |
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| 19:15:54 | <liskin> | noex: oh shit :-/ |
| 19:16:11 | <liskin> | No idea what's the next step here |
| 19:16:44 | <liskin> | Hopefully they'll send me for an x-ray or CT or something |
| 19:17:24 | <geekosaur> | I'm up for forensic psychiatry, whatever the * that is |
| 19:17:27 | <liskin> | But no idea what then. It's tricky to heal even if caught early, internets tell me |
| 19:17:56 | <geekosaur> | wrists are bad news :( |
| 19:17:59 | <liskin> | My brother had his hand immobilized for 4 months |
| 19:18:10 | <geekosaur> | no blood flow to speak of, so no healing to speak of |
| 19:18:12 | <liskin> | But then it's fine. |
| 19:18:43 | <liskin> | But I just ignored it for years, and only found out on an unrelated x-ray years after |
| 19:18:53 | <liskin> | And then it was fine. Until it wasn't |
| 19:20:07 | <liskin> | Forensic psychiatry sounds like you killed someone and now they need to decide whether you go to jail or to a mental institution |
| 19:20:19 | <liskin> | Hope it's not that :-D |
| 19:20:41 | <geekosaur> | nope |
| 19:21:12 | <geekosaur> | actually it's because I applied for disability, since my brain keeps shutting down due to sensory overload so I can't work any more |
| 19:21:25 | <geekosaur> | they want a second opinion from not-my-psych |
| 19:22:03 | <geekosaur> | meanwhile I'm on a shitload of drugs that only sort-of help |
| 19:22:54 | <geekosaur> | and the older I get the worse it gets :( |
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