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09:09:37 <dirtcastle> https://pastecode.io/s/6g5fy1fm
09:10:35 <dirtcastle> trying to run xmobar. xmobar was installed through pacman. xmonad was built from source.(stack)
09:11:16 <dirtcastle> i made a .xmobarrc with example config from arch wiki. it's at ~/.xmobarrc.
09:11:39 <dirtcastle> google, reddit, yt, xmobar doc - nothing was helpful.
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09:18:44 <AIM[m]> Have ya seen DT's video on it?
09:25:47 <dirtcastle> yes. exactly his. but he configured it inside xmonad.1 i think. I'm doing it .hs. should I try it on .1 itself once?
09:27:24 <dirtcastle> i think the problem is in syntax in the main function. can u take a look at that for a sec.
09:30:54 <AIM[m]> I also did the rc file without the entire hs code
09:31:14 <AIM[m]> The file with only Config
09:32:03 <dirtcastle> ok. I'll try do xmobar config alone in that file once
09:32:15 <AIM[m]> Ya
09:32:41 <AIM[m]> I haven't got the hs file working
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11:19:09 <dirtcastle> i tried it. didn't work. he uses ubuntu. i use arch. i could be missing a step related to X11.
11:21:23 <AIM[m]> I use Arch only
11:21:38 <AIM[m]> You can try to get an example config first
11:21:47 <AIM[m]> Instead of writing from scratch
11:22:10 <AIM[m]> What error does it show?
11:22:29 <AIM[m]> Try running from terminal instead of automatically launching it from xmonad
11:22:49 <AIM[m]> That way the errors get thrown into the terminal output
11:24:41 <geekosaur> @where paste
11:24:41 <lambdabot> Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com
11:26:33 <geekosaur> although if you're on arch using a pacman-installed xmobar, I'm betting you need to build the xmobar config with -dynamic
11:28:10 <AIM[m]> It's better to get he Aur version of xmonad and xmobar
11:28:54 <geekosaur> probably still need it. arch haskell packaging is kinda broken
11:29:01 <AIM[m]> The pacman version is kinda back on updates (which is surprising coz Arch is supposed to be a rolling release). I guess the maintainers are too busy.
12:09:41 <dirtcastle> i didn't know they were outdated . I'll do it from official git repo.
12:34:10 <dirtcastle> Could not load module `Distribution.Simple'
12:34:10 <dirtcastle> It is a member of the hidden package `Cabal-3.4.0.0'.
12:34:10 <dirtcastle> You can run `:set -package Cabal' to expose it.
12:34:10 <dirtcastle> (Note: this unloads all the modules in the current scope.)
12:34:10 <dirtcastle> Use -v (or `:set -v` in ghci) to see a list of the files searched for.
12:34:10 <dirtcastle> |
12:34:10 <dirtcastle> 3 | > import Distribution.Simple
12:34:11 <dirtcastle> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
12:34:11 <dirtcastle> ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build().
12:34:12 <dirtcastle> Aborting...
12:34:34 <dirtcastle> when downloading from aur
13:29:33 <dirtcastle> never mind
13:30:09 <dirtcastle> i installed through pacman . xmobarrc example config in archwiki is bugged
13:33:12 <dirtcastle> thanks your time guys. really appreciate it!
13:36:07 <Solid> dirtcastle: perhaps change that wiki article/alert someone who can?
13:42:47 <dirtcastle> Solid, I've never done that b4. I've pulled issues in git only. does that have a git page?
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14:24:30 <Solid> dirtcastle: I don't know, I don't use Arch
14:24:42 <Solid> but surely a wiki is editable by everyone (modulo a review process)
14:26:44 <dirtcastle> oh npnp. I'll search the internet. or else will ask in #archlinux irc
14:27:01 <geekosaur> iirc it's a mediawiki, it should have pretty good help
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17:00:51 <dirtcastle> can I use emacs as a scratchpad?
17:01:05 <dirtcastle> is it possible
17:02:28 <geekosaur> don't see why not. probably have to use NamedScratchpads rather than the simple scratchpad which is limited to windows you can name "scratchpad", then className =? "Emacs". main problem there is then using any emacs window for anything else
17:02:49 <geekosaur> would need some elisp hacking to get a specific emacs frame with a role you could match on
17:05:46 <dirtcastle> gotcha. I'll search a little more.
17:17:15 <geekosaur> might be easier to use an emacsclient running in a terminal, then just arrange for the terminal to not be a factory and use --name scratchpad (appName =? "scratchpad")
17:29:33 <Solid> dirtcastle: emacsclient supports the -F flag with which you can set the parameters of the spawned frame
17:31:04 <Solid> e.g. for an instance name you'd do something like -F "(quote (name . \"my-scratchpad\"))"
17:31:50 <fizzie> I've done an Emacs stratchpady thing.
17:31:55 <fizzie> I just keep forgetting to use it.
17:32:04 <Solid> (the instance name is the first string in WM_CLASS)
17:32:17 <Solid> I have like 4 Emacs scratchpads for different purposes
17:32:20 <Solid> very worth it :)
17:37:06 <fizzie> I do "emacsclient -a '' -e '(scratch-frame)'" to start one, (resource =? "scratch-emacs") to match one, and https://0x0.st/ozcF.txt on the Emacs side, and have completely forgotten most of what that's for -- it's probably much overcomplicated.
17:37:33 <fizzie> I think the idea was I could also toggle the scratchpad visibility over from Elisp for whatever reason, that's what sending the XMONAD_NSP_SHOW client event is doing.
17:37:52 <fizzie> It probably still works, but I still don't remember to use it.
17:45:18 <dirtcastle> Solid: Share config and save me from going through so much pain. I'll understand the emacsclient options from manual.
17:46:05 <dirtcastle> I literally took a screenshot of everything u guys said for reference.
17:49:03 <dirtcastle> thank you very much!
17:54:09 <dirtcastle> fizzie, i didn't understand that lisp code but I copied and make sense of it later. Thank you!
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18:02:24 <Solid> dirtcastle: the config itself is a little bit complicated because I have a little EDSL for spawning things and setting these names, but the basic command for emacsclient is `emacsclient -c -F "(quote (name . \"scratch-name\"))"` and you would then match on it in your scratchpad config with `appName =? "scratch-name"`
18:03:10 <Solid> in case you're wondering, -F sets the `default-frame-alist` variable (`C-h v default-frame-alist` for more information)
18:06:38 <Solid> fizzie: yeah the snippet seems to duplicate some scratchpad functionality in elisp
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18:07:24 <Solid> and most of this is actually dead code since I would imagine `scratch-frame` is only called for spawning the scratchpad (with managing being done by NamedScratchpads)
18:07:31 <Solid> but if it works it works so... :)
18:11:58 <dirtcastle> I'll remember to contact you for debugging :D
18:11:58 <dirtcastle> one of the reasons I asked was to see if I there are new features I am not aware of.
18:14:04 <fizzie> Solid: Oh, I remember what it's for -- the motivation was to allow opening a file in the scratch frame from the command line. So it's accompanied with a es() { e="${1/\\/\\\\}"; emacsclient -a '' -q -e '(scratch-frame "'"${e/\"/\\\"}"'")'; } bash function that does that. I don't remember to use it either.
18:15:38 <Solid> fizzie: ah, that makes sense
18:15:50 <fizzie> I don't remember why that was really any better than using the keybinding to bring up the scratchpad and open the file from there. Well, I guess it does respect the working directory of whatever terminal you run it in.
18:16:12 <Solid> maybe you would use it more often if it wasn't a general Emacs scratchpad but something more specific
18:19:10 <fizzie> I think pretty much what ended up happening is, I've got a screen session automatically opening in the terminal scratchpad, and the different screen windows of that session play the role of sort of more specific (but still slightly ephemeral) scratchpads, so I end up just using that one.
18:20:50 <geekosaur> yeh, I open "scratchpads" in my one big emacs frame and probably would forget to use another one
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