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00:16:22 <dirtcastle> yes! do it!
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05:16:05 <AIM[m]> Anyone got the hs file working for xmobar?
05:16:15 <AIM[m]> Instead of the rc file
05:27:24 <sibi> iamaravindim[m]: This one used to work for me: https://github.com/psibi/dotfiles/blob/master/xmobar/src/Lib.hs
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06:27:05 <Hash> What is ig?
06:43:54 <Solid> Hash: "i guess"
06:44:26 <Solid> AIM[m]: mine works (though lives in a stack project so I can directly compile xmobar with the config instead of doing `xmobar config.hs`) https://gitlab.com/slotThe/dotfiles/-/tree/master/xmobar/.config/xmobarrc
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06:55:02 <Hash> Oh ok thanks
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07:32:57 <AIM[m]> Ohhh
07:33:12 <AIM[m]> I tried and failed previously
07:33:23 <AIM[m]> From that same repo
07:33:59 <AIM[m]> I hope I'm running the git version of xmobar from aur
07:35:22 <Hash> Ok
07:35:24 <Hash> So
07:35:25 <narendranath344[> I build xmonad today using stack following the instructions given on xmonad github page, but it fails to compile xmonad.hs
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07:35:38 <Hash> The problem exists in my KDE again with Xmonad
07:35:55 <Hash> The panel application menus don't work. I had a patch for it, I am not sure whom to give it to!
07:36:23 <Hash> KDE people don't care. They're not going to put the patch in because that breaks their functionality, but if they don't, it breaks plasmashell panel menus with Xmonad
07:36:37 <Hash> I patched out the things, but uhm, who wants it? I don't want to lose it one day.
07:37:09 <Hash> I forgot where the code was, specifically, but I had the patch files
07:37:34 <Hash> So irritating that. I like KDE and KDE apps/env but I like Xmonad
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07:38:25 <narendranath344[> narendranath344[: this is the result of build file
07:44:07 <Solid> narendranath344[: it tells you what's wrong: you need to write `XMonad` for the imports and not `Xmonad`
07:59:11 <narendranath344[> <Solid> "narendranath344: it tells you..." <- yeah I changed it
08:00:14 <narendranath344[> but it still failed
08:00:56 <narendranath344[> here is the output of build file http://ix.io/3Lkx
08:06:50 <Solid> yikes
08:07:43 <Solid> I suppose blame Arch and its insistence on dynamic linking? :) though do try to recompile with -fPIC as it says
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08:09:47 <narendranath344[> Solid: which parameter should I change here
08:10:47 <narendranath344[> Solid: yeah Arch way of packaging haskell package sucks
08:21:06 <Solid> narendranath344[: try adding --ghc-options="-fPIC"
08:22:22 <Solid> narendranath344[: actually, since you're doing `stack ghc`, just `-fPIC` after the `--` part should suffice
08:26:09 <AIM[m]> Hey any example config with Clickable PP and UnsafeXMonadLog? I use XMonad 0.17
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09:07:54 <Solid> AIM[m]: are the docs not enough to find out how it works? (if yes, then that's a bug :))
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09:40:19 <AIM[m]> I just found a one line code in ClickablePP doc
09:40:58 <AIM[m]> s/I just found a one line code in ClickablePP doc/I just found a one line code in Clickable Worskpace doc/
09:41:04 <AIM[m]> https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.16.999/XMonad-Util-ClickableWorkspaces.html
09:41:29 <Solid> This is pretty much all you need; add `clickablePP` to your xmobarPP as shown and then replace XMonadLog with UnsafeXMonadLog in your xmobar config
09:41:41 <AIM[m]> Maybe it's coz I don't know much prerequisite stuff for this util?
09:42:08 <AIM[m]> Solid: I did that but where do I add stuff to bring all the clickable buttons?
09:42:17 <AIM[m]> For Workspaces?
09:42:27 <AIM[m]> In XmobarPP?
09:42:41 <AIM[m]> I don't know much about ClickablePP tbh
09:42:45 <Solid> AIM[m]: what do you mean, exactly?
09:43:31 <AIM[m]> Like do I need some new PP for ClickablePP? Do I need to have a PP with that type and use def and modify it?
09:44:12 <AIM[m]> myClickablePP = def { blah blah blah}
09:44:13 <Solid> your probably already have a prety printer for xmobar, right?
09:44:13 <AIM[m]> Idk
09:44:20 <AIM[m]> Yep
09:44:40 <Solid> then add it there
09:44:40 <AIM[m]> I have one called myXMobarPP
09:44:53 <AIM[m]> It's not clickable as of now
09:45:11 <AIM[m]> Solid: So, it's just the same thibg used in previous version?
09:45:27 <Solid> myXMobarPP = clickablePP $ ...
09:45:29 <Solid> something like that
09:45:37 <AIM[m]> Idk I've seen configs without ClickablePP but get the same thing
09:45:55 <AIM[m]> Idk if ClickablePP is supposed to aimplify or something
09:46:03 <AIM[m]> s/aimplify/simplify/
09:46:25 <Solid> I would imagine; otherwise you'd need to specify the respective xdotool actions yourself
09:47:18 <AIM[m]> The one I watched is:
09:47:18 <AIM[m]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCzuMHU3Qtw
09:47:33 <AIM[m]> I saw similar stuff in others github repo and stackoverflow
09:47:49 <AIM[m]> But Idk, the ClickablePP is nowhere used
09:50:26 <Solid> it's a new module in 0.17.0
09:50:38 <Solid> I suppose someone got fed up with all these people rolling manual solutions :)
09:51:02 <AIM[m]> Ah, maybe that explains the configs not out there
09:51:50 <AIM[m]> It'd be really helpful if someone can tell me the difference and probably give an example config to study from
09:52:39 <AIM[m]> The difference in how it was done without ClickablePP and the way it's to be done with ClickablePP
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10:27:36 <dirtcastle> AIM, https://youtu.be/gPQ9mn9Nkpc. maybe this is helpful.
10:46:32 <mc47> AIM[m], the new way is really just adding clickablePP, e.g. https://github.com/TheMC47/dotfiles/blob/master/xmonad/.xmonad/xmonad.hs#L492
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11:21:03 <narendranath344[> <Solid> "narendranath344: actually, since..." <- 🙄🙄🙄
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11:50:43 <Solid> I meant adding it as an argument to your build file
11:51:16 <Solid> but truth be told I have no idea about linker errors that may or may not have to do with the choices a distro I don't use has made along the way :)
11:55:07 <geekosaur> or may have to do with other choices
11:56:05 <geekosaur> xmonad.hs usually gets compiled into xmonad-<arch>-<os>, not simply xmonad
11:56:20 <geekosaur> so xmonad-x86_64-linux
11:57:59 <Solid> the build script had a "$1" in there so I would assume at least that part was correct
11:59:38 <geekosaur> but simply doing "stack ghc -- -fPIC xmonad.hs" will try to write xmonad, not the file identified by $1
12:00:19 <geekosaur> stack ghc -- -fPIC xmonad-hs -o "$1"
12:00:55 <geekosaur> well, that $1 won't work at a shell prompt since it won't be set
12:01:05 <geekosaur> only in a build script
12:06:58 <narendranath344[> <geekosaur> "stack ghc -- -fPIC xmonad-hs -o..." <- Let me try it
12:07:37 <geekosaur> replace x86_64 with the right architecture (for example aarch64 on newer arm platforms)
12:14:49 <narendranath344[> <geekosaur> "replace x86_64 with the right..." <- It's a 64 bit machine so
12:15:15 <geekosaur> aarch64 is also 64 bit, just arm instead of pc
12:15:40 <geekosaur> and with things like apple's m1 chip it's becoming rather more common these days
12:24:10 <narendranath344[> <geekosaur> "and with things like apple's..." <- It's a lenovo laptop with Intel i5 10th gen processor
12:24:49 <geekosaur> ok, but I can't tell that from here so I had to guess the right arch and os to specify for the output :)
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12:35:16 <narendranath344[> <geekosaur> "ok, but I can't tell that from..." <- OS is Artix linux which offers only 2 types of installation one is x86_64 and other is ARM
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12:38:51 <AIM[m]> <dirtcastle> "AIM, https://youtu.be/gPQ9mn9Nkp..." <- It doesn't have ClickablePP does it?
12:40:15 <AIM[m]> <mc47> "AIM, the new way is really..." <- I think it uses the pre 0.17 method tho....
12:41:00 <AIM[m]> Thanks for your help tho.... Really appreciate it!
12:43:13 <AIM[m]> * Kinda goes over my head... But will look into it...
12:46:58 <narendranath344[> http://ix.io/3LmG
12:46:58 <narendranath344[> it still gives the same error
12:47:13 <dirtcastle> AIM , I haven't watched it yet. soon I'll watch it. videos like this usually let u know abt functionality you aren't aware of. u may think it's irrelevant now, but will help u in the future is how I look at these things. when it comes to linux we use a lot of info that we picked up randomly.
12:47:35 <narendranath344[> here is the result of uname -ar Linux basedman 5.10.84-1-lts #1 SMP Wed, 08 Dec 2021 16:07:43 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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12:49:09 <narendranath344[> this is the content of build file #!/bin/sh
12:49:09 <narendranath344[> exec stack ghc -- -fPIC xmonad.hs -o "$1"
12:50:04 <geekosaur> okay, so if the command I gave you worked from the shell then that should work for xmonad --recompile
12:51:25 <narendranath344[> geekosaur: http://ix.io/3LmGyeah it worked but what about these errors
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12:52:19 <geekosaur> if you got errors then it didn'[t work. but the url you gave me appears to be a blank page?
12:52:42 <geekosaur> oh, I see
12:53:58 <narendranath344[> http://ix.io/3LmG
12:54:00 <geekosaur> simply passing -fPIC here won;t automatically rebuild all those libraries with it
12:54:26 <narendranath344[> geekosaur: then?
12:54:32 <geekosaur> this sounds like a ghc autoconfiguration issue, which means stack got your OS wrong somehow
12:56:01 <geekosaur> I'm not sure how you fix this; you need to somehow tell stack to install a ghc and base libraries built with -fPIC, since it's currently using one without it
12:56:23 <geekosaur> this probably should be pursued with the stack folks
12:57:16 <narendranath344[> geekosaur: well somehow xmonad compiled and I'm inside it WTF🤯🤯🤯
13:01:43 <geekosaur> but was that installed via stack or via a distribbution package?
13:02:21 <narendranath344[> geekosaur: xmonad and contrib package were installed with git clone
13:02:48 <narendranath344[> s/installed/clone/
13:03:12 <narendranath344[> and then build with stack install && stack build
13:03:53 <geekosaur> sigh. I think you need someone who understands stack better than I do, then
13:03:58 <narendranath344[> s/installed/cloned/
13:04:21 <geekosaur> unless you started out with an OS package and only cloned it later, in which case you're still running the OS package even if you removed it after
13:04:39 <narendranath344[> geekosaur: thanks for your help tho because of you I was able to compile it
13:05:03 <narendranath344[> the only thing that is bothering me are these errors
13:05:30 <aplainzetakind> I'm trying to set up xmonad on Pop OS (because I couldn't figure out my nvidia woes so I'll take a shot at something that supposedly Just Works). My xmonad is installed via ghcup/cabal. I put the absolute path to ~/.cabal/bin/xmonad in ~/.xsession as directed in the xmonad FAQ, but it seems to do nothing (no options at login). Any ideas?
13:07:05 <geekosaur> that's up to your OS and its display manager. some don't come with simple X session options
13:07:34 <AIM[m]> It uses gdm afaik
13:08:05 <aplainzetakind> AIM[m]: it does.
13:09:01 <Solid> aplainzetakind: did you create a .desktop file as instructed in INSTALL.md?
13:09:11 <AIM[m]> You'll need to look where gdm searches for it
13:10:49 <aplainzetakind> Yeah I couldn't figure out what $PATH is in effect for gdm, which is why I put the absolute path to the cabal symlink rather than just `xmonad`.
13:13:05 <geekosaur> it will be the system default, which is usually /bin:/usr/bin
13:13:22 <geekosaur> (or the reverse, but in any case no user stuff since it doesn't know what user yet)
13:16:30 <aplainzetakind> Hmm.
13:16:56 <aplainzetakind> Would symlinking to ~/.cabal/bin/xmonad from /bin work?
13:18:25 <Solid> probably
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13:59:45 <AIM[m]> <mc47> "AIM, the new way is really..." <- Holy cow! It works!
13:59:56 <AIM[m]> I never thought it was that simple!
14:00:14 <AIM[m]> It's magic!
14:01:38 <mc47[m]> It's xmonad ;)
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14:22:09 <narendranath344[> I compiled xmonad and xmonad-contrib with ghc.8.10.7, if I upgrade ghc do I need to build those packages again?
14:23:24 <geekosaur> yes
14:23:40 <geekosaur> but I'm not sure upgrading is the best didea right now
14:24:22 <geekosaur> 9.0.2 seems stable so far but is mostly unsupported (we do support it but many other Haskell packages don't yet)
14:24:57 <geekosaur> 9.2.1 likewise unsupported and has several known bugs; I'd hold off until 9.2.2 sometime later this month
14:26:10 <geekosaur> if you ask a ghc manager tool like ghcup what the recommended version is it'll say 8.10.7
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14:55:12 <AIM[m]> <narendranath344[> "I compiled xmonad and xmonad-..." <- Yep!
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15:45:43 <AIM[m]> Do we still use box tags for Xmobar in xmonad.hs?
15:45:56 <AIM[m]> Did 0.17 get it replaced with something like a function?
15:48:21 <geekosaur> what's a box tag?
15:57:38 <AIM[m]> The one with <box ....> </box>
15:57:46 <AIM[m]> s/</`</, s/>/>`/
15:58:00 <AIM[m]> I'm guessing it's like specifying a field
15:58:15 <Solid> AIM[m]: there is xmobarBorder: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-DynamicLog.html#v:xmobarBorder
15:58:38 <AIM[m]> That just draws the border, aye?
15:58:46 <AIM[m]> Does that fill inside?
15:59:33 <AIM[m]> Gotta try it then
15:59:40 <AIM[m]> Thanks
16:00:12 <AIM[m]> Idk if it'll like leave extra space inside or not
16:00:47 <AIM[m]> I need something like how you specify field length for printing strings
16:01:15 <AIM[m]> So that the bg color applies inside that field length area
16:01:29 <geekosaur> why not just use a thin space?
16:02:36 <AIM[m]> How to? I'm new to this
16:02:57 <AIM[m]> Thinspace add spaces around workspace number?
16:03:17 <AIM[m]> like ` 1 `
16:03:29 <AIM[m]> I want a box like this box
16:05:08 <geekosaur> thin space is \x2009
16:05:15 <AIM[m]> ` 1 ` ` 2 ` ` 3 `
16:05:21 <AIM[m]> geekosaur: Ohhh
16:05:35 <geekosaur> won't show in irc, might show in matrix
16:05:51 <geekosaur> > text "\x2009\&1\x2009"
16:05:52 <lambdabot>  1 
16:06:11 <geekosaur> > text "x\x2009\&1\x2009y"
16:06:13 <lambdabot> x 1 y
16:06:40 <AIM[m]> Question: if I edit the worskpaces variable will it effect the keyboard shortcut for it?
16:06:58 <AIM[m]> Idk how the workspaces are detected
16:07:44 <AIM[m]> Does the keybindings use the workspace name?
16:07:53 <geekosaur> I think the default can't know. I generate my own bindings (for use with AdditionalKeysP) and use my workspaces variable
16:08:45 <geekosaur> https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L184-L191
16:09:38 <AIM[m]> Ohhh
16:10:45 <geekosaur> hm, actually…
16:11:47 <geekosaur> so yes the default has access to the config and uses whatever `workspaces conf` is
16:12:12 <AIM[m]> Ohhh
16:12:16 <geekosaur> so the only reason for my override is changing greedyView to view
16:13:06 <AIM[m]> I think even if I change the name of the workspace to have spaces around them, it'll have gaps around the workspace names like coloured blocks seperated by spaces
16:13:43 <geekosaur> right, but it may be annoying if youu use XMonad.Prompt.Workspaces
16:14:04 <geekosaur> might be better to use `wrap` in the PP
16:14:41 <AIM[m]> Oh
16:15:02 <AIM[m]> I think I'll start with testing out the border one
16:15:33 <AIM[m]> If it ain't working, Imma go for the other methods
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16:41:18 <gonzofy> hello everyone! I'm hoping for a little help involving Xmonad, Snap, and fonts. I run Manjaro with Xmonad as my window manager. If I run the Slack (from Snap store) in Xmonad, I get a lot of boxes instead of text for fonts. If I run the same Snap in XFCE the fonts work fine. So...the fonts exist in the system, but in a way that is somehow not available to Xmonad. where is Xmonad loading fonts from, and how may it be different
16:41:18 <gonzofy> from XFCE?
16:41:51 <gonzofy> Thanks in advance for any guidance!
16:42:32 <geekosaur> xmonad does't involve itself with fonts. xfce has a settings manager that handles many things including fonts
16:43:43 <geekosaur> not sure how you'd deal with this except maybe by using a standalone settings manager like lxappearance
16:44:35 <gonzofy> thanks geekosaur. will follow that lead. cheers!
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17:33:48 <jakeStateless-Fa> XFCE could also be setting environment variables, while XMonad isn't doing it explicitly.
17:34:17 <jakeStateless-Fa> ?tell gonzofy XFCE could also be setting environment variables, while XMonad isn't doing it explicitly.
17:34:17 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
17:46:48 <AIM[m]> <gonzofy> "thanks geekosaur. will follow..." <- I think it might have to do with snap?
17:47:32 <geekosaur> I would have no idea
17:47:35 <AIM[m]> Maybe they're configuring something for snaps automatically at login? Maybe it's not done by Xmonad?
17:47:44 <AIM[m]> Tbh, I don't use snaps
17:48:09 <geekosaur> annd I can't really test locally since I use xmonad with mate which I assume would configure things the same way
17:48:10 <AIM[m]> But all my package manager installed packages have all fonts working well
17:48:35 <AIM[m]> Even if I just install a new font, it just works outta the box....
17:49:02 <AIM[m]> <gonzofy> "hello everyone! I'm hoping for a..." <- I suppose you don't have the same problems with packages installed with apt
17:49:38 <AIM[m]> Probably some environment variable not set
17:50:00 <AIM[m]> Or some kinda config isn't getting loaded
17:51:25 <geekosaur> pretty sure it;s the config and that's why I suggested lxappearance, which does the same kind of config but in a desktop environment-agnostic way
17:51:55 <geekosaur> instead of e.g. mate or gnome which store things in dconf under keys nothing else can find unless the settings manager is running
17:53:21 <AIM[m]> geekosaur: Ah yeah, I forgot they have that
17:53:56 <jakeStateless-Fa> Yeah, I use lxappearance.
17:56:22 <geekosaur> xfce also used to work nicely standalone but they changed that maybe 5 years ago to do the same thing mate and gnome do
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