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08:57:04 <AIM[m]> You do know timezones exist, right?
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09:02:20 <Solid> so answer with "good *your appropriate greeting here" :)
09:02:42 <AIM[m]> Lol
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10:05:47 <geekosaur> "good UGT" :þ
10:53:45 <liskin> geekosaur, Solid: I'm just wondering, are you guys getting the mails about scheduled action run failures or am I the only one receiving them?
10:54:58 <liskin> (don't worry, nothing serious, just that the links to LYAH are invalid now; but I just want to know who gets the notifications)
10:57:24 <liskin> Oh and it looks like I'll be attending those sessions about open-source maintenance from opencollective since Monday.
10:58:06 <liskin> Not the best timing but perhaps I'll learn something useful for the project
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11:02:28 <geekosaur> I'm not
11:03:08 <geekosaur> I only get them for things I do (e.g. PRs)
11:03:46 <geekosaur> "links to LYAH" sounds like it might be xmonad-web? I don't think I ever "watched" that repo
11:03:56 <geekosaur> or may have un-watched it
11:07:30 <liskin> It's xmonad-web, yes
11:07:47 <liskin> But I'm also pretty sure actions failures aren't tied to watching
11:08:07 <liskin> Otherwise a lot of people would be getting a lot of emails :-)
11:22:35 <mc47> I think you can configure what you're watching exactly
11:25:26 <liskin> mc47: actions doesn't seem to be there
11:25:42 <mc47> oh right
11:27:43 <geekosaur> 17 forks of -web? half tempted to contact folks and ask why
11:31:46 geekosaur wonders if actions have owners but didn't see a simple way to check
11:35:18 <liskin> Old repos tend to have more forks
11:35:45 <liskin> Past PR, people clicking fork instead of star by mistake...
12:21:00 <AIM[m]> I added literall spaces to worskpace names and now it is nicely spaced
12:23:05 <Solid> liskin: I'm only getting mails about action failures on my forks or commits, not for our repos as a whole
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12:50:01 <AIM[m]> How do I get the colors.hs made by Pywal to be read by Xmobar?
12:51:27 <geekosaur> I think you'd need to switch to configuration in Haskell instead of that weird Config { ... } thing that only looks vaguely Haskell-like
12:55:11 <AIM[m]> Yeah...
12:55:41 <AIM[m]> Anyways to you know completely send all stuff for Xmobar as UnsafeXMonadLog
12:55:49 <AIM[m]> Or is that too stupid approach?
12:56:23 <AIM[m]> * all stuff like time, battery, etc for Xmobar
12:58:12 <geekosaur> generally a bad idea. you could do it, but xmonad really wants to only trigger on X11 events and most of those want time-based triggers
12:58:59 <geekosaur> there do exist loggers for much of it (X.U.Loggers) if you want to try it
13:02:16 <AIM[m]> Oh, I c
13:02:41 <AIM[m]> Also, You guys use Termonad?
13:02:43 <AIM[m]> Idk
13:02:58 <AIM[m]> It takes like a lotta time on initial launch
13:03:27 <AIM[m]> When I login to system and launch termonad it takes a long time to start up
13:03:42 <AIM[m]> But it doesn't take that much time afterwards tho
13:04:04 <geekosaur> makes me wonder if it's rebuilding config the first time
13:05:01 <geekosaur> I finally wrote an updater script that does everything but --restart on my xmonad, since I was updating everything Fridays and forgetting to rebuild and then when I next rebooted had to wait several minutes before it'd come up
13:05:06 <AIM[m]> That's also what I'm guessing
13:05:15 <geekosaur> worse if there was an update to, say, lens :)
13:05:27 <geekosaur> (I log via dbus which sucks in a bunch of extra deps)
13:05:46 <AIM[m]> Anyways like preventing Termonad from rebuilding config automatically on first launch?
13:05:58 <AIM[m]> s/Anyways/Anyway/, s/like/to/, s/preventing/prevent/
13:06:00 <geekosaur> don't know, sorry
13:06:09 <AIM[m]> Oh
13:06:37 <AIM[m]> I'll check the repo or if it's something not available, I'll add an issue to their repo
13:08:19 <geekosaur> my first question would be why does it think it needs to rebuild every time?
13:10:34 <geekosaur> we had some rebuild bugs of that nature several years ago
13:11:10 <geekosaur> or it could happen because you updated a dependency and didn't realize it'd affect termonad, but that would require you to be running from git instead of a packaged version
13:11:25 <geekosaur> (I run xmonad from git, but then I'm a developer, so.)
13:23:28 <AIM[m]> Idk for sure
13:23:47 <AIM[m]> But it's the same case for me everytime for the first launch after login
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13:59:13 <Solid> termonad always seemed a bit "meh" to me since the Haskell based config is just a shim around VTE anyways
13:59:35 <Solid> it's not a "true" terminal emulator in Haskell (for some definition of true)
14:00:18 geekosaur got over writing stuff like that in the early 90s :)
14:01:08 <geekosaur> wrote a terminal emulator and a screen-alike for a system I couldn't port screen to since it didn't have BSD-style sockets or ptys but its own things
14:01:57 <geekosaur> (terminal emulator was actually for something else though)
14:04:02 geekosaur can't recall now the name of the window system he ported to that machine later. everything was done with escape sequences
14:05:10 <geekosaur> thought it was from plan 9 but doesn't seem to be rio
14:07:29 <geekosaur> or 8½
14:24:07 <Solid> :)
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16:01:42 <AIM[m]> <geekosaur> "can't recall now the name of the..." <- Y ya referring to yourself in third person?
16:02:03 <geekosaur> I used /me / /action IRC-side
16:02:25 <geekosaur> some people tink they still should use first person in that case but that just reads wrong to me
16:02:32 <geekosaur> call me pedantic :)
16:02:44 <AIM[m]> geekosaur: Ah
16:02:56 AIM[m] hello test test
16:02:59 <geekosaur> I can see from the quoting that matrix doesn't handle .action
16:03:04 <AIM[m]> Oh shizzz it works!
16:03:07 <geekosaur> that seemed right though
16:03:23 <AIM[m]> Matrix has that action
16:03:34 <AIM[m]> I didn't know
16:03:35 <geekosaur> but what you quoted didn't?
16:03:50 <AIM[m]> It just shows * AIM
16:04:19 <AIM[m]> Like: * AIM hello test test
16:04:30 <AIM[m]> How does it appear on your side?
16:06:16 <geekosaur> similar
16:06:35 <geekosaur> I should install screenshot software…
16:07:01 <geekosaur> what throws me is your quoting of me does *not* look any different from quoting normal IRC messages
16:07:16 <geekosaur> [08 16:01:42] <AIM[m]> <geekosaur> "can't recall now the name of the..." <- Y ya referring to yourself in third person?
16:20:24 <liskin> Solid: https://twitter.com/asjo/status/1479846555591008257
16:25:15 <liskin> A voting thread on the mailing list might be useful
16:25:51 <liskin> I'm in Windows now but I'll reboot tomorrow and start one if nobody else does it by then
16:27:33 <Solid> liskin: oh indeed that sounds like a good idea
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16:44:43 <Solid> liskin: https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/xmonad/2022-January/015494.html in case you want to link them to it
16:44:55 <Solid> I'll append it to the discussion thread
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17:21:39 <liskin> Solid: thx!
17:29:36 <AIM[m]> <geekosaur> "what throws me is your quoting..." <- Oh
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20:16:33 <horhik[m]> Hi
20:16:33 <horhik[m]> Has anyone such bug, while trying to focus on another window in monocle mod?
20:16:36 <horhik[m]> s/mod/mode/
20:17:00 <horhik[m]> Is it possible to fix or it's just a bug?
20:19:30 <horhik[m]> When I'm focusing on floating window in monocle mode, if there's several tiled windows behind, the're chaoticly switching and eventually I see another window, not which was focused before
20:50:28 <geekosaur> floats are a bit obnoxious
20:51:05 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-TrackFloating.html may help
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21:40:08 <^[> > "Сonstructor" == "Constructor"
21:40:09 <lambdabot> False
21:41:22 <^[> The first letter of the submission name is Cyrillic. Hopefully that won't cause any trouble when counting the votes.
21:42:25 <geekosaur> owie
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