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| 13:44:54 | <Guest96> | Solid hi, I've copied and trying your xmonad config, is there a reason to use Topics instead of DynamicWorkspaces? Also how do you switch between screens in your config? Default is Mod+{W,E,R} I believe. Thanks, particularly easy motion keybindings are nice when you have too many windows and want to go directly to one |
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| 13:51:32 | <Solid> | Guest96: topics and dynamicworkspaces seem to be orthogonal modules (my topics aren't "dynamic" in the sense that they are all specified in the config) |
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| 13:52:21 | <Solid> | I don't use DynamicWorkspaces since I don't usually have very long uptimes, so every workspace that I regularly need is probably best defined in the config directly |
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| 13:53:17 | <Solid> | r.e. screen keys I use M-w and M-f for switching to monitors 1 and 2 (this is just M-w and M-e on QWERTY, rebound for my layout) |
| 13:53:44 | <Guest96> | Solid thanks for the response, are workspaces 1-9, 1:WEB different from topic? Or can workspace be topic and workspace 1 at the same time, I am confused |
| 13:54:11 | <geekosaur> | a topic is just a workspace with a behavior attached |
| 13:54:34 | <Guest96> | geekosaur I see thanks |
| 13:54:41 | <Solid> | yes indeed |
| 13:55:02 | <Solid> | in a more ideal world the module may be called WorkspaceActions or something |
| 13:55:21 | <geekosaur> | I treat my workspaces as "topics" without using TopicSpaces, I just start programs on those workspaces in startupHook |
| 13:55:47 | <Guest96> | Solid you have Mod+Enter to spawn terminal and Mod+Shift+Enter to spawn terminal in topic, they both launch terminal, is there a difference |
| 13:56:36 | <Solid> | Guest96: topics can set directories to which they belong, in which case M-S-<Enter> would open a terminal in that directory instead of ~/ |
| 13:58:34 | <Guest96> | geekosaur do you think TopicSpaces make sense if you have more than 9 workspaces needed, the main thing reason I wanted to use it I just wanted to bundle some windows for example, everything vpn related (config, server ssh session etc) and leave it there, I think it solves not being able to categorize windows exactly on workspaces, workspaces are |
| 13:58:34 | <Guest96> | more of broad like terminal, code and such. what do you think? |
| 13:59:02 | <Guest96> | Solid understood thank you! One more thing, how do you switch screens? |
| 13:59:12 | <Guest96> | Not the content, but focus |
| 13:59:25 | <geekosaur> | [21 13:53:17] <Solid> r.e. screen keys I use M-w and M-f for switching to monitors 1 and 2 (this is just M-w and M-e on QWERTY, rebound for my layout) |
| 13:59:56 | <Guest96> | oh missed that, sorry and thanks! |
| 14:00:22 | <geekosaur> | and TopicSpaces can make sense for >9 workspaces and even with DynamicWorkspaces (I think there might even be a module tying those together?) |
| 14:00:30 | <geekosaur> | it all depends onwhat you want to do |
| 14:00:52 | <Guest96> | Solid do you use DVORAK? |
| 14:01:00 | <geekosaur> | a TopicSpace you aren't using takes up essentially no memory |
| 14:01:35 | <Guest96> | geekosaur I see thanks! |
| 14:04:44 | <Solid> | Guest96: even worse, I use some obscure spin of colemak called colemak-dh |
| 14:06:22 | <Guest96> | Thanks! |
| 14:07:24 | <Guest96> | no border concept is good too in some way I think, borders make things blocky |
| 14:08:17 | <Guest96> | updatedPointer can be indicator of focused window I see |
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| 14:11:23 | <Solid> | there is a readme for the config btw, which explains some decisions (in particular, I hide the pointer after some inactivity and use transparency via compton to tell the focused window apart) |
| 14:11:59 | <Solid> | I've been experimenting with a 1px border + no compton for multiple screens (using X.U.Rescreen) but that's justa local change for now |
| 14:13:10 | <Guest96> | oh didn't know that, no gaps I assume? |
| 14:15:09 | <Solid> | indeed, no gaps |
| 14:15:45 | <Solid> | (I wouldn't really recommend actually using the config, btw, it's quite customised to my liking) |
| 14:16:20 | <Guest96> | Yeah I've been trying it out to see if there's any features I like, I see nothing related to compton/opacity on gitlab config though |
| 14:17:25 | <Solid> | https://gitlab.com/slotThe/dotfiles/-/tree/master/xmonad/.config/xmonad should give you a readme if you scroll down a bit |
| 14:18:27 | <Guest96> | thanks man! |
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| 14:39:25 | <Guest96> | it's weird, xmobar's logTitle part flickers |
| 14:39:46 | <Guest96> | when more than one window |
| 14:46:22 | <geekosaur> | probably means it's logging titles for all of them and you need to pick one somehow |
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| 14:53:47 | <geekosaur> | mine looks like this. it has some differences because I log different things and send them to xmonad-log-applet instead of xmobar. https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L221-L239 |
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| 14:54:45 | <geekosaur> | oh, missed you'd left |
| 14:55:15 | <geekosaur> | [21 14:46:22] <geekosaur> probably means it's logging titles for all of them and you need to pick one somehow |
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| 14:55:32 | <geekosaur> | [21 14:53:47] <geekosaur> mine looks like this. it has some differences because I log different things and send them to xmonad-log-applet instead of xmobar. https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L221-L239 |
| 14:55:32 | <Guest96> | geekosaur what do you mean by "all" windows? it's the same config as Solid's |
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| 14:55:48 | <Guest96> | thanks |
| 14:56:01 | <geekosaur> | I got that wrong, ppTitle only does focused window. so now I'm wondering if there's a newline getting inserted |
| 14:56:32 | <geekosaur> | or maybe your machine is just enough slower that you're seeing the redraw; I don't think xmobar optimizes it away if it's the same |
| 14:56:53 | <geekosaur> | although I don't know for certain since I don't use xmobar |
| 14:58:00 | <Guest96> | use polybar? maybe it's i5 2nd gen processor, no external gpu |
| 15:00:12 | <Guest96> | probably something wrong with my config |
| 15:00:24 | <Guest96> | titles get frozen after some time too |
| 15:04:35 | <geekosaur> | that I don't think I can help with |
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| 17:28:01 | <Solid> | liskin: ping for https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-web/pull/55 (I really only want someone else to open the new picture in inkscape, save it, and tell me inkscape doesn't want to change anything) |
| 17:28:20 | ChanServ | sets mode +o Solid |
| 17:29:00 | Solid | sets topic to "xmonad: the tiling window manager with a formally proven core | https://xmonad.org | cheatsheet: https://xmonad.org/images/cheat/xmbindings.png | https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Frequently_asked_questions | https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lcxmonad" |
| 17:29:08 | ChanServ | sets mode -o Solid |
| 17:29:27 | Solid | almost wants to delete the FAQ from the topic and link to the tutorial instead |
| 17:29:49 | <Solid> | but I think it still holds _some_ useful information |
| 17:35:42 | <geekosaur> | very little, I'm afraid |
| 17:38:38 | <Solid> | :/ |
| 17:39:19 | <Solid> | going through it and putting the relevant information into a FAQ on the website sounds like the _perfect_ way to spend my sunday ._. |
| 17:39:41 | geekosaur | was going to update the faq… in august |
| 17:39:57 | <geekosaur> | stalled out completely on about the 8th "runhaskell Setup.hs" |
| 17:40:52 | <Solid> | oof |
| 17:40:56 | <Solid> | yeah I'd just throw that one out |
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| 18:19:15 | <liskin> | Solid: so did you have to actually change/move things around? |
| 18:24:09 | <liskin> | Solid: and, um, opening your svg and saving it in my inkscape does result in some numbers being changed to what they were before |
| 18:25:25 | <liskin> | e.g. the Quit xmonad texts, used to be at 234.31291; 242.41291, your commit changed that to 235.66292; 243.76291 and saving it again changes it back to 234.31291; 242.41292 (0.00001 difference to the original) |
| 18:28:02 | <liskin> | Solid: and if you do the Swipe diff of the PNG at https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-web/pull/55/files, you'll notice that the line height changes in the "master area", "terminal (default xterm)" and "Swap focused window with master window" boxes |
| 18:31:49 | <liskin> | anyway, when I open the original SVG in my inkscape, everything's fine, and when I open yours, everything's fine too, just needs a save to revert the coordinates |
| 18:32:20 | <liskin> | so I guess I'll just go through both commits one by one, re-save and regen the PNG |
| 18:33:29 | <liskin> | bloody font issues |
| 18:34:06 | <Solid> | yikes |
| 18:34:14 | <Solid> | liskin: yeah I had to enlarge the boxes a little |
| 18:34:19 | <Solid> | because otherwise the text didn't fit |
| 18:34:28 | <Solid> | liskin: what's your inkscape version? |
| 18:34:37 | <liskin> | 1.1.1 |
| 18:34:46 | <Solid> | very weird |
| 18:35:17 | <liskin> | what does "fc-match TlwgTypewriter" say on your computer? |
| 18:35:59 | <Solid> | ❯ fc-match TlwgTypewriter |
| 18:35:59 | <Solid> | TlwgTypewriter.ttf: "Tlwg Typewriter" "Regular" |
| 18:36:00 | <liskin> | although that's almost certainly not the problem because the fonts are okay in the PNG |
| 18:36:13 | <liskin> | so I have absolutely no idea what's going on |
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| 19:22:00 | <liskin> | Solid: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-web/compare/gh-pages...liskin:cheatsheet |
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