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| 03:53:45 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | I'm trying to do some multi-monitor setup stuff. The desired behavior I'm after is the standard swapping behavior, just instead of altering the one that has the focused window, alter the one that has the mouse on it. |
| 03:54:18 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | Does this exist yet? |
| 04:20:31 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | It's really close to the behavior that `W.view` already gives... |
| 05:08:28 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | well, and greedyView |
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| 05:52:28 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | on another note, I'm trying to setup a gridselect that launches other gridselects, what is wrong with my approach here? |
| 05:52:38 | jakeStateless-Fa | uploaded an image: (72KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/jupiterbroadcasting.com/OMORpzQWxEbDIxeQSkyOvELw/image.png > |
| 05:52:46 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | I keep getting type mismatches |
| 05:53:06 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | either it's `String` and it needs `X ()` or vice versa |
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| 07:54:12 | <Solid> | would probably be easier to debug if you 1. added type signatures and 2. didn't post an image of test ;) |
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| 08:23:51 | <mc47> | Do we have "type WindowScreen = W.Screen WorkspaceId (Layout Window) Window ScreenId ScreenDetail" exported somewhere? This is the second time I need it, I'm wondering whether we should include standard type definitions in XMonad.Prelude |
| 08:24:47 | <mc47> | These are types that are a result of the `StackSet` definition in the core, but aren't explicitly written out anywhere except in the modules that need them |
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| 08:41:14 | <Solid> | mc47: there is one definition in X.U.Loggers (commited by yourself, in fact :D) |
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| 08:41:24 | <Solid> | oh but it's not exported |
| 08:41:29 | <mc47> | Exactly :p |
| 08:42:09 | <Solid> | yeah we should definitely just add this to the core |
| 08:42:48 | <mc47> | I'll push a PR |
| 08:43:12 | <Solid> | I guess for using it _now_ X.Prelude would be better though |
| 08:43:29 | <Solid> | but long term I think adding it to where WindowSet and WindowSpace already are seems better |
| 08:44:11 | <mc47> | I mean, I'm the only one complaining about it so maybe just the Prelude is fine |
| 08:48:05 | <Solid> | :) |
| 08:48:25 | <Solid> | It's probably not critical (though there is one function in the core that would get a nicer type signature!) |
| 08:53:07 | <mc47> | Solid: adding it to X.Core and building contrib with that only generates an error for X.U.Loggers |
| 08:53:35 | <mc47> | So I guess both options are fine |
| 08:53:52 | <mc47> | Not in a hurry, let's see what others think |
| 08:54:00 | <Solid> | an error? just removing the type signature should be fine I think |
| 08:54:23 | <Solid> | but i guess the real problem is that we'd need to also release xmonad 0.17.1 when we release a new minor version of xmonad-contrib |
| 08:54:47 | <Solid> | which i don't think is necessarily justified |
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| 09:00:06 | <mc47> | yeah ofc just removing the type-signature is fine |
| 09:00:23 | <mc47> | didn't think about releases tbh, but good point |
| 09:00:32 | <mc47> | contrib it is |
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| 09:32:48 | <geekosaur> | jakeStateless-Fa, you can't just conjure up an IO context wherever you want. If you need to do I/O, you need to do it in an IO context |
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| 09:37:34 | <geekosaur> | in fact what you're doing may be fine, but you can't use mAllGrids the same way as mgrids', you have to use >>= to run it in IO and send the result on to the next thing |
| 09:37:53 | <geekosaur> | would need to see how it's used to see exactly how to do that |
| 09:38:55 | <geekosaur> | also, as Solid said, please use a proper paste bin instead of screenshots. if nothing else I can then download and edit the code (if needed; good pastebins let me edit directly) |
| 09:38:59 | <geekosaur> | @where paste |
| 09:38:59 | <lambdabot> | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com |
| 09:39:44 | <geekosaur> | most terminals let you select with the left mouse button and copy with ctrl-shift-c |
| 09:40:13 | <geekosaur> | xterm and I think urxvt just need the left mouse button and copy directly |
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| 10:50:22 | <Benzi-Junior> | hey, all of a sudden xmonad is taking forever to launch terminals |
| 10:52:36 | <geekosaur> | what happens if you run one directly from another terminal? |
| 10:53:20 | <geekosaur> | most modern terminals use a factory backend; that may have become confused or slow and needs restarting (but this will close any terminals you have open) |
| 10:55:39 | <Benzi-Junior> | geekosaur, If I run one directly using another terminal window or dmenu it's faster, as in less than minutes but still slow |
| 10:56:31 | <Benzi-Junior> | thought it was working as regular but tried again just before replying and the issue appears to be there as well |
| 10:57:41 | <Benzi-Junior> | it was working until like an hour ago, and reboot didn't fix it |
| 10:57:53 | <geekosaur> | o.O |
| 11:00:24 | <Benzi-Junior> | hmm ok the issue appars to be with termonad not xmonad, launching x-terminal-emulator is instant |
| 11:00:55 | <Benzi-Junior> | well the reason I thought it was xmonad was because earlier it was working with dmenu just not mod+return |
| 11:13:36 | <geekosaur> | odd |
| 11:15:44 | <Benzi-Junior> | odd indeed |
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| 11:45:25 | <Benzi-Junior> | I can't see a reason why this would have changed all of a sudden |
| 11:50:37 | <narendranath344[> | What is minimum version of ghc should I use to compile xmonad and xmonad-contrib with? |
| 11:51:04 | <narendranath344[> | Or should I use ghcup recommend one? |
| 11:57:18 | <liskin> | narendranath344[: we support 8.4 and up and our CI matrix covers all supported versions so basically any ghc version which isn't ancient will work just fine |
| 11:59:07 | <liskin> | that being said, there are rumors of 9.0 having subtle bugs, so you may as well avoid that one for the time being |
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| 12:06:29 | <narendranath344[> | Ok and thanks |
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| 12:09:39 | <vrs> | Benzi-Junior: I'm gonna hazard a guess and say that one way launches a login shell, the other not, and you've something heavy in your .profile |
| 12:10:10 | <vrs> | (or equivalent - files differ but most shells distinguish between login shell and regular shell, even if they look the same) |
| 12:11:17 | <vrs> | eg having bash-completion loaded can make a significant difference, though generally not minutes |
| 12:12:44 | <liskin> | with a slow .profile I'd expect the terminal window to appear immediately, but then take a long time for the prompt to appear |
| 12:13:27 | <Benzi-Junior> | vrs, but why would it change ?, I mean I haven't been changing my .profile |
| 12:13:47 | <vrs> | did you upgrade packages recently? or install something like oh-my-zsh? |
| 12:14:34 | <vrs> | but yeah this is only one avenue, the other is something broke in your terminal emulator |
| 12:15:27 | <Benzi-Junior> | I installed viking, which I would be shocked to find affects this at all |
| 12:15:29 | <Benzi-Junior> | hmmm |
| 12:15:32 | <Benzi-Junior> | although.. |
| 12:16:50 | <Benzi-Junior> | that appears to be the problem |
| 12:17:03 | <Benzi-Junior> | I guess it's some lib that got installed as a dependency |
| 12:17:38 | <Benzi-Junior> | thanks a ton I would never in a milion years have figured that out |
| 12:18:12 | <vrs> | now I'm curious what the exact interaction is though |
| 12:19:10 | <Benzi-Junior> | likewise |
| 12:20:17 | <vrs> | with timeouts in the minutes, I'll often suspect network timeouts |
| 12:21:10 | <vrs> | something like, package dep installs some systemd service which wants to resolve something via ipv6, which is broken so it timeouts, which blocks terminal starting because the terminal detected the service and thought "oh cool I'm gonna activate my optional module that uses it" |
| 12:28:07 | <Benzi-Junior> | http://ix.io/3Owp that's the list of dependencies that got installed with viking |
| 12:29:55 | <Benzi-Junior> | I've confirmed it's not viking itself so the culprit is somewhere in that list |
| 12:30:21 | <Benzi-Junior> | removing them fixes it |
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| 12:34:41 | <vrs> | ah on debian specifically, the following often prevent nasty surprises: |
| 12:34:45 | <vrs> | APT::Install-Recommends "0"; |
| 12:34:47 | <vrs> | APT::Install-Suggests "0"; |
| 12:35:04 | <vrs> | (somewhere in apt.conf / apt.conf.d) |
| 12:42:00 | <Benzi-Junior> | wait, ae you telling me apt installs "suggested reccomentations" by default ? |
| 12:47:38 | <vrs> | recommends was the default I think, suggested no |
| 12:47:47 | <vrs> | but it's been a while since I checked |
| 13:17:40 | <geekosaur> | liskin, 9.0.2 is fine |
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| 14:42:01 | <narendranath344[> | https://termbin.com/3bza |
| 14:42:30 | <narendranath344[> | what is wrong in this file, I followed the tutorial guide on xmonad.org |
| 14:42:38 | <narendranath344[> | but xmonad ---recompile is giving me errors |
| 14:43:41 | <geekosaur> | it's helpful to include the errors |
| 14:44:11 | <geekosaur> | but I've already spotted one incorrect indentation (which in that particular case probably doesn't throw an error) |
| 14:45:59 | narendranath344[ | uploaded an image: (81KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/FWnYXnEmVWxJPhIzoEVfPpiy/2022-02-03_20-15.png > |
| 14:47:23 | <Solid> | narendranath344[: add {-# LANGUAGE FlexibleContexts #-} to the top of the file |
| 14:47:24 | <geekosaur> | you're not using xmobarProp anywhere so the compiler can't determine its type |
| 14:47:39 | <Solid> | or actually use it yes |
| 14:48:02 | <geekosaur> | you in fact duplicate what it does on line 12 |
| 14:48:15 | <Solid> | mh actually it probably still wouldn't like this |
| 14:48:23 | <Solid> | because Window is not a type variable and that doesn't change |
| 14:48:34 | <geekosaur> | you also use defToggleStrutsKey and then define right afterward your own unused toggleStrutsKey function |
| 14:48:58 | <geekosaur> | it doesn't care unless it's inferring that type, which it won't if that is removed |
| 14:49:12 | <geekosaur> | otherwise every config would require FlexibleInstances |
| 14:49:22 | <geekosaur> | er, FlexibleContexts |
| 14:49:52 | <Solid> | I meant if they leave it as a top-level definition |
| 14:50:19 | <narendranath344[> | > you also use defToggleStrutsKey and then define right afterward your own unused toggleStrutsKey function |
| 14:50:19 | <narendranath344[> | well I follwed xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html , maybe I not follwing it correctly |
| 14:50:20 | <lambdabot> | <hint>:1:37: error: parse error on input ‘then’ |
| 14:50:48 | <geekosaur> | it looks to me like you started to follow it and then jumbled in a few snippets you got from somewhere else |
| 14:54:27 | <narendranath344[> | > narendranath344: add {-# LANGUAGE FlexibleContexts #-} to the top of the file |
| 14:54:27 | <narendranath344[> | thanks, this worked |
| 14:54:29 | <lambdabot> | <hint>:1:67: error: parse error on input ‘of’ |
| 14:54:38 | <narendranath344[> | btw what it does exactly? |
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| 14:59:06 | <Solid> | class constraints in Haskell-by-the-report have to be really simple; basically just the class plus some type variables |
| 14:59:27 | <Solid> | but the constraint for the layout in this case is `Window`, which is a concrete type and not a variable |
| 14:59:46 | <Solid> | FlexibleContexts simply lifts this restriction |
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| 16:07:25 | <narendranath344[> | So I fixed the error, but I cannot use mod+q default binding because of the error message that xmonad is not in $PATH |
| 16:08:38 | <narendranath344[> | but .loca/bin is in my $PATH and this is where xmonad binary was placed after building xmonad with stack |
| 16:09:11 | <geekosaur> | xmonad gets a PATH that doesn't come from your startup files |
| 16:09:41 | <geekosaur> | usually what it gets from the login manager is /usr/bin:/bin |
| 16:11:44 | <narendranath344[> | ok so how should I fix this? |
| 16:13:01 | <narendranath344[> | geekosaur: also I don't use a login manager, I use xinitrc file |
| 16:13:20 | <geekosaur> | then set your path there |
| 16:14:59 | <narendranath344[> | geekosaur: how am I supposed to do that, I set my path in .zshrc |
| 16:16:42 | <geekosaur> | your .xinitrc is probably run by /bin/sh instead of zsh, so it won't touch .zshrc |
| 16:17:20 | <geekosaur> | you may be able to add a line at the very top of the file "#! /bin/zsh" (substitute path to zsh if necessary) |
| 16:19:21 | <narendranath344[> | btw do u guys also face this error? |
| 16:31:32 | <geekosaur> | which error? the PATH one? I already mentioned how I deal with it (https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/start-xmonad if you care) |
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| 17:15:19 | <Benzi-Junior> | vrs, the offending package was xdg-desktop-portal |
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| 17:16:14 | <Benzi-Junior> | ran into the same issue with another package, cross referenced their dependencies and just had to check half a dozen packages |
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| 19:25:58 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | <geekosaur> "jake :: Stateless -> Farm, you..." <- It does use `>>=`, see the definition of `nest` and `custom`? |
| 19:26:00 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | I'll post a proper paste when I'm back on my desktop |
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| 19:52:37 | <geekosaur> | jakeStateless-Fa, that's not using them in the right place |
| 19:53:21 | <geekosaur> | using thenm there makes your mAllGrids an action instead of a data value, that itself must be run with >>= |
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| 21:52:11 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/9d29b7b6 |
| 21:52:11 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | The relevant lines are 33-58, this' my most recent attempt. |
| 21:53:31 | <geekosaur> | right, did you consider adding type signatures as Solid suggested? it might show you what ypou have wrong, since apparently I'm failing to explain it |
| 21:54:32 | <geekosaur> | also you are not showing where mAllGrids is used, and that's likely the real problem here |
| 21:54:53 | <geekosaur> | mAllGrids uses >>= and is therefore an action. it *also* must be applied with >>= |
| 21:55:15 | <geekosaur> | >>= is not some magic that causes an IO or X or etc. context to pop up out of nowhere |
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| 21:59:26 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | mAllGrids isn't actually used anywhere yet |
| 21:59:34 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | It's to be used as an action via a keybind |
| 22:00:18 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | the components present within mgrids do work on their own |
| 22:00:28 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | And I tried adding the type signatures that ghc gave me, those didn't work :/ (used the `:: ()` trick) |
| 22:04:52 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | oh, turns out I was missing parenthesis, the problem's still here though |
| 22:04:55 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | just, more logically... |
| 22:05:46 | <geekosaur> | right, that wasn't supposed to fix it, it was supposed to give you some guidance as to what you're doing wrong |
| 22:15:32 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | Aha! Got it! Now I'm just going to optimize it, and for anyone interested, I'll post a paste when I figure that out. |
| 22:33:04 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | https://0bin.net/paste/sr3m7Gul#beUT7U7aHGHKdiTsy5kDyxnvHAza-xeg4jHtiJTyNxb p.bsd.net was being a snob about pasting things, here's the finalized version, for all interested (L35-47) |
| 22:33:39 | <jakeStateless-Fa> | simple recursive gridselect... Nothing much. |
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