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03:31:15 <abhixec> is there a way to get hidpi working on xmonad sanely as in not having to constantly restart x every time I connect/disconnect to a hidpi monitor. Currently the only way to make it look sane is setting xft.dpi to 192 but it becomes ugly when I want to go back to using my laptop then I need to revert it to 96 and startx again
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09:40:28 <korner[m]> hey how is cursor capture on xmonad? finally found a good excuse to finally check xmonad out because old games are very very broken on my wayland setup
10:36:19 <tomjaguarpaw> liskin: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/ebZv5he0
10:37:29 <tomjaguarpaw> This is what happens when I have my X in external-only mode, and then unplug the external screen without having changed to the internal screen, but then subsequently use xrandr to change to the internal screen (blind, because I have not screen at that point)
10:37:41 <tomjaguarpaw> X seems to think that I have two screens, when I only have one
10:39:15 <tomjaguarpaw> If I plug the external screen back in, then use xrandr to change to (only) internal screen that works fine (and I can unplug the external safely)
10:39:43 <tomjaguarpaw> It would be great to know how to make X forget about the external screen, without having to plug it in first!
10:40:06 <tomjaguarpaw> I'm not sure this is related to XMonad at all, ..., but if anyone knows how I should deal with it that would be very helpful
10:45:29 <geekosaur> the driver should be detecting that automatically and sending xmonad and other programs an RRChangeNotify event
10:55:43 <tomjaguarpaw> And xrandr doesn't even know about the change! Does that means it's a driver bug?
10:57:20 <geekosaur> yes
10:57:52 <geekosaur> only the driver has the direct access needed to recognize monitor connection/disconnection
10:58:11 <geekosaur> I would be curious to see if the bug is still there if you're not overlapping them, though
10:58:27 <korner[m]> that is X thing that it doesnt forget monitors after they have been unplugged, supposedly its feature so you need some automized way to check for it
10:58:34 <geekosaur> I know some (possibly many) drivers break if monitors aren't contiguous
10:58:44 <tomjaguarpaw> I'm not overlapping them
10:59:12 <geekosaur> isn'tr one portrait and one landscape but with the same origin?
10:59:23 <tomjaguarpaw> I generally only have one on the other enabled. If I have both enabled then I have the internal one below the external one.
10:59:37 <geekosaur> ah
10:59:47 <tomjaguarpaw> Not sure how X keeps track of these things, but I never display the same thing on separate screens.
11:00:10 <tomjaguarpaw> It's possible they "became" overlapped when I tried to switch to the internal monitor.
11:00:33 <geekosaur> korner[m], I don't understand your question. cursor capture is independent of the window manager, and is usually implemented via grabs so it overrides the window manager
11:01:01 <tomjaguarpaw> But it's hard to debug this because when I unplug the external and I want to activate the internal I have nothing on my screen! All I can do is Ctrl-R in the terminal and hope I hit my xrandr shell script!
11:01:11 <geekosaur> the screen info you pulled up the other day for me showed them as I described
11:01:42 <tomjaguarpaw> Yeah, probably an artefact of how I recovered from the situation.
11:02:11 <geekosaur> also you could consider binding a key to run your shell script (or multiple if you need torun it in different ways) so you don't have to guess
11:02:51 <tomjaguarpaw> Yes, I think that's a good idea
11:03:39 <geekosaur> back in the old days I used to have a keyy bound to kill xcompmgr when it went crazy, and likewise I couldn't see what was really on screen
11:06:53 <korner[m]> speaking of compositing, is there any way i can prevent screen tear without compositors? i am not particularly interested in them and just locking entire xorg to 60 frames would do
11:07:31 <geekosaur> some video drivers have options for it
11:07:46 <korner[m]> regarding that cursor capture question, can safely ignore
11:07:56 <korner[m]> i use only intel ones which is i915 i think?
11:19:45 <geekosaur> the intel one covers most intel chipsets
11:20:10 <geekosaur> if you turn on verbose boot you'll see it prints out 3-4lines about all the chipsets it covers
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11:53:16 <korner[m]> i have modern UHD chipset so i am 100% in the clear, i will see later when i get config together if it works with those xorg options
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12:19:51 <Solid> tomjaguarpaw: I didn't completely follow the whole conversation but to me it sounds like you want different monitor configurations ala autorandr instead of self-written shell scripts
12:20:02 <Solid> (well, I guess one would still need to bind `autorandr --change` to a key in case things don't get recognised)
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15:14:53 <liskin> Hm, the paste completely freezes chrome on Android, weird
15:16:49 <liskin> Stackage 19 with new xmonad is out btw :-)
15:19:30 <Solid> oh awesome
15:19:49 <Solid> oh shit 9.0.2 as well
15:28:32 <geekosaur> yay, maybe we'llfinally see some other distros update too
15:29:49 <Solid> we'll probably at at least see nix update now
15:30:22 <Solid> arch has been on ghc 9 for a while (even on 9.0.1, which was quite broken), so unlikely there :/
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