Logs on 2022-03-28 (liberachat/#xmonad)
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| 02:14:08 | <abastro[m]> | What is named scratchpad? Never used it but seems like everyone is using it |
| 02:17:05 | <fizzie> | A scratchpad is a thing where you bind a key to start/show a particular application (maybe most commonly a terminal) if it's not currently on-screen, or hide it away if it is. A named scratchpad is a thing that allows you to have more than one such (by giving them names), so you could have one key for a scratchpad terminal, another for a scratchpad text editor, and so on. |
| 02:20:02 | <abastro[m]> | Oh, so it creates another workspace? |
| 02:20:54 | <fizzie> | Well... technically yes, it does create a "NSP" workspace to hold the windows while they're hidden, but that's really just an implementation detail and best hidden under the rug. |
| 02:21:58 | <abastro[m]> | Hmmm |
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| 02:27:07 | <fizzie> | Normally you filter out the "NSP" workspace from status bars and such, and don't include it in your workspace-switching key bindings. It's just there to provide a place for the windows when they're not shown. The keybinding is used to bring the window to your current workspace when you want to look at it. Commonly it's also floated. |
| 02:28:43 | <abastro[m]> | NSP windows are supposed to be easily turned on and off right? |
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| 02:33:37 | <fizzie> | Okay, here's how it behaves: You press a dedicated key combination, corresponding to a particular configured thing. One of three things happens: 1) If that thing isn't running at all (doesn't have a matching window), it's started. 2) If it is running, but is not on the currently focused workspace, it's brought to it and focused. 3) Otherwise (as in, it's already on the current workspace), it's |
| 02:33:39 | <fizzie> | hidden away but not closed. |
| 02:33:41 | <fizzie> | I guess you might describe that as "easily turned on and off" maybe. |
| 02:36:57 | <abastro[m]> | So you mean, it is practically always on? |
| 02:36:58 | <abastro[m]> | Hmmm |
| 02:38:06 | <abastro[m]> | Btw, I've seen ppl using sth like |
| 02:38:16 | <abastro[m]> | "M-X" for Alt-X I think |
| 02:38:20 | <abastro[m]> | How does it work? |
| 02:40:17 | <fizzie> | It's not on before the first time (in a session) you bring it up, but yes, normally the scratchpad window/program isn't actually closed. |
| 02:40:38 | <abastro[m]> | So anything expensive would rather not be there |
| 02:41:14 | <abastro[m]> | Btw what happens if the scratchpad app tries to bring itself into focus, like what happens with messenger apps? |
| 02:43:11 | <fizzie> | "M-x" is something you could give https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Util-EZConfig.html "additionalKeysP" function to specify a key. The module provides two different ways to specify keys, plain (modifier, key) pairs (for additionalKeys) and "Emacs-style" key specifiers like that (for additionalKeysP). |
| 02:44:40 | <fizzie> | ("M" isn't always alt, it's whatever is configured as the mod key in the config given to additionalKeysP. A Windows key is a common choice too.) |
| 02:45:38 | <abastro[m]> | I see, that should be more concise!! |
| 02:52:33 | <abastro[m]> | What happens if the scratchpad app tries to bring itself into focus? |
| 03:02:56 | <fizzie> | I haven't used a scratchpad with any such. What happens if it's just on a normal workspace that's not currently on screen? |
| 03:04:21 | <abastro[m]> | It jumps onto my current workspace. |
| 03:04:25 | <abastro[m]> | Quite annoying tbh |
| 03:04:53 | <abastro[m]> | Matrix chat apps knows better to stay at its place, but others... |
| 03:05:37 | <fizzie> | I would kind of expect that to be the case with the scratchpad too, then. As in, it would just show up, and the next press on the key would hide it again. |
| 03:07:33 | <abastro[m]> | It would show up at my current workspace? |
| 03:07:37 | <abastro[m]> | Gah.. |
| 03:09:44 | <fizzie> | The scratchpad hiding isn't any different from just putting the window into a workspace you're not looking at, so that's what I'd expect. I'm sure there's some workarounds for applications like that though. |
| 03:13:49 | <abastro[m]> | I see. |
| 03:13:52 | <fizzie> | In particular, if it works via EWMH, this might be relevant: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-EwmhDesktops.html#g:5 |
| 03:14:07 | <fizzie> | "Set (replace) the hook which is invoked when a client sends a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW request to activate a window. The default is doFocus which focuses the window immediately, switching workspace if necessary. doAskUrgent is a less intrusive alternative." |
| 03:15:45 | <abastro[m]> | Oh, I see. That might work |
| 03:16:17 | <fizzie> | That doesn't sound exactly the same, though, since it would switch to the workspace of the window, rather than bringing the window to your current workspace. (Which would probably work even worse with a scratchpad, because the NSP workspace isn't one you'd want to visit normally.) |
| 03:17:23 | <abastro[m]> | Ouch |
| 03:18:46 | <abastro[m]> | Actually, I think what is happening is that the window closes itself and spawns again when alert comes |
| 03:18:55 | <abastro[m]> | Then it spawns at the current workspace |
| 03:51:06 | <abastro[m]> | Could you guys identify what capabilities are missing here other than named scratchpads? |
| 03:51:06 | <abastro[m]> | https://github.com/Abastro/.xmonad/blob/master/app/Main.hs |
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| 05:58:00 | <abastro[m]> | Hm, named scratchpad just brings the app to my current workspace? Eh.. |
| 06:12:01 | <Solid[m]> | yes |
| 06:12:23 | <Solid[m]> | quite useful for email, calendars and the like (at least imnsho) |
| 06:13:30 | <Solid[m]> | > Could you guys identify what capabilities are missing here other than named scratchpads? |
| 06:13:30 | <Solid[m]> | The only capabilities missing are those that _you_ are missing :) |
| 06:13:32 | <lambdabot> | <hint>:1:89: error: |
| 06:13:32 | <lambdabot> | parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) |
| 06:13:46 | <Solid[m]> | oh shush, you |
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| 06:43:30 | <abastro[m]> | Wdym I am missing? |
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| 06:47:02 | <Solid[m]> | In the sense of "I wish I could do X" |
| 06:47:24 | <abastro[m]> | Oh, I mean, one could see it and think "Wow how could they live without X" |
| 06:49:43 | <abastro[m]> | (Btw it does seem inefficient to take terminal) |
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| 07:04:49 | <Solid> | to take terminal? |
| 07:06:55 | <abastro[m]> | I meant having terminal at named scratchpad |
| 07:07:21 | <abastro[m]> | Usually I like to create multiple terminals |
| 07:11:28 | <Solid> | you could dedicate it to a certain long-running purpose |
| 07:11:44 | <Solid> | e.g. I like to connect to my VPS in a scratchpad terminal when I need that |
| 07:14:10 | <abastro[m]> | VPS? |
| 07:14:51 | <abastro[m]> | Btw then I cannot have multiple instances of the terminal, can I? |
| 07:15:39 | <Solid> | I mean, you could have mutliple terminal scratchpads bound to different keys or something |
| 07:15:58 | <Solid> | but that's usually not worth it imo |
| 07:15:59 | <Solid> | VPS = virtual private server |
| 07:16:34 | <abastro[m]> | I see, private server sounds cool |
| 07:17:43 | <abastro[m]> | Multiple terminal scratchpad? Wouldn't they collide each other |
| 07:18:42 | <Solid> | not if you set a different instance name or something |
| 07:18:51 | <Solid> | most terminal emulators can do this |
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| 07:29:16 | <abastro[m]> | Oh, I see - interesting! |
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| 10:38:11 | <Ether[m]> | Can someone help me out? |
| 10:38:27 | <Ether[m]> | https://github.com/Ahanaf-Ether/xmonad/blob/main/xmonad.hs |
| 10:38:39 | <Ether[m]> | It doesn't seem to work :( |
| 10:55:36 | <byorgey> | Ether[m]: can you be more specific? |
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| 11:01:14 | <Solid> | Ether[m]: I would still advise you to go through the tutorial ( https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html ) and build things up bit by bit instead of trying to brute-forcing your way through a 600 line config |
| 11:04:28 | <abastro[m]> | Wouldn't that be quite a work though |
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| 11:52:10 | <Ether[m]> | Solid i tried it already:( its not nearly as close to explainig what i want. |
| 11:52:18 | <Ether[m]> | Its meant give 'new' users an idea of a basic config. |
| 11:53:01 | <Ether[m]> | Though its helpful to get you start ed. |
| 11:53:10 | <Ether[m]> | s/start ed/started/ |
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| 11:53:36 | <abastro[m]> | I thought you were one of new users |
| 11:58:34 | <Ether[m]> | abastro[m]: Not really, i just suck at haskell :( |
| 11:58:59 | <Ether[m]> | I have used at least 5+ wondow managers! |
| 11:59:10 | <abastro[m]> | Perhaps xmonad is not your fit then |
| 11:59:38 | <Ether[m]> | Lets see; i3, bspwm, dwm, qtile, spectruwm |
| 11:59:40 | <Ether[m]> | Etc |
| 12:00:09 | <Ether[m]> | Xmonad is my fit. I just gotta learn to configure it. It does everything i want :) |
| 12:03:32 | <Solid> | then you are, by definition, new to xmonad ;) |
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| 12:03:35 | <abastro[m]> | Strange, isn't xmonad's only good at its configure-ability? |
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| 12:03:49 | <Solid> | if you have any improvements for the tutorial feel free to suggest them though! |
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| 12:05:41 | <Ether[m]> | abastro[m]: No comment;( |
| 12:05:48 | <Ether[m]> | * No comment ;( |
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| 12:06:09 | <abastro[m]> | Hmm |
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| 12:21:52 | <geekosaur> | I, uh, think that didn't come out the way you intended it |
| 12:31:08 | <abastro[m]> | How did it came out? |
| 12:32:09 | <abastro[m]> | Oh, I'm sorry for being slightly derogatory towards xmonad |
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| 12:49:55 | <abastro[m]> | * ;; I'm sorry for being slightly derogatory towards xmonad |
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| 12:51:32 | <Solid> | oh interesting, the bridge seems to have some problems |
| 12:51:43 | <Solid> | some messages go missing, that is |
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| 12:52:08 | <Solid[m]> | <etherror_code_404[m]> "I have used at least 5+ wondow..." <- Then you are, by definition, new to xmonad ;) |
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| 12:53:19 | <Solid[m]> | If you have any improvements for the tutorial feel free to suggest them though! |
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| 12:54:19 | <geekosaur> | note that starting from someone else's config does not make you an instant expert. it's still worth going through the tutorial to learn how things fit together, which neither distrotube nor a haskell tutorial will teach you |
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| 12:55:37 | <Solid> | indeed |
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| 14:06:18 | <Ether[m]> | geekosaur can you check the EventLogHook update? |
| 14:10:08 | <Ether[m]> | I figured it :) |
| 14:10:31 | <Ether[m]> | myStartupHook and Eventlog hook conflict each other! |
| 14:13:08 | <geekosaur> | I'm kinda in and out today, sorry |
| 14:13:23 | <geekosaur> | and it's harder for me to test the stuff I do via PR |
| 14:14:52 | <Ether[m]> | Okie :) Thanks |
| 14:15:28 | <geekosaur> | did you actually solve it? if not, pleasepoint me at your xmonad.hs again so I can copy and test it |
| 14:16:07 | geekosaur | is trying to migrate back from laptop to desktop again, it's taking some work |
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| 14:32:59 | <abastro[m]> | So I put it up on reddit, asking here as well because I could expect more live feedback: |
| 14:32:59 | <abastro[m]> | I faced with a strange phenomenon where xmonad shows normal behavior on first startup but it stops workinf after restart via mod+q. The activated app usually bring the app's workspace on focus, right? It stops working after restart. Do any of you know why? |
| 14:33:47 | <abastro[m]> | Basically, 'focus to urgent app' stops working after mod+q restart |
| 14:35:16 | <Ether[m]> | <geekosaur> "did you actually solve it? if..." <- Its the same one you made |
| 14:35:29 | <Ether[m]> | * Its the same one you made a PR yesterday* |
| 14:35:43 | <geekosaur> | but I don't havre that any more and would have tosearch the logs to find it |
| 14:36:08 | <Ether[m]> | Have what? |
| 14:36:20 | <Ether[m]> | https://github.com/Ahanaf-Ether/xmonad/blob/main/xmonad.hs |
| 14:36:27 | <Ether[m]> | Its still this* |
| 14:36:33 | <Ether[m]> | xmonad.hs |
| 14:37:16 | <geekosaur> | yeh, I found it in scrollback |
| 14:38:00 | <geekosaur> | ok, I get two errors, one of which isa typo and the other is a missed import update |
| 14:38:56 | <Ether[m]> | How do i fix it? |
| 14:39:12 | <Ether[m]> | But the eventhook doesn't work in this confif |
| 14:39:14 | <Ether[m]> | Config* |
| 14:41:11 | <geekosaur> | anmd then missing all the $s so it doesn't combine right |
| 14:43:49 | <Ether[m]> | If you get time can you make a PR? |
| 14:45:22 | <geekosaur> | I did. now that I'm up here for a bit I can dothis until I get down on the floor again to work on setting up the desktop. (I'm getting old…) |
| 14:48:19 | <Ether[m]> | Oo |
| 14:49:27 | <Ether[m]> | Holy shit! It works! |
| 14:52:19 | <Ether[m]> | I had done something similar but incomplete; in "MystartUpHook" another do block, just replaced "spawn" with polybar hook lines. Now that works but window spawning becomes an issue. |
| 14:52:49 | <Ether[m]> | Thanks to you! It is just what i wanted :) |
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| 20:38:01 | <tdammers> | hi! I'm having a weird issue with Pianoteq on XMonad. It's oddly specific, so bear with me. The Pianoteq plugin has an instrument selector dropdown; that dropdown renders fine intially, but when I run Pianoteq as a VST or LV2 plugin from within Ardour, the dropdown disappears when I hover over it; the standalone version works fine though. I've also tested in Xfce, and the problem does not occur |
| 20:38:03 | <tdammers> | there. |
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