Logs on 2022-04-13 (liberachat/#xmonad)
| 00:06:54 | <abastro[m]> | geekosaur: hmm I guess that might be used for building my own task bar |
| 00:07:01 | <abastro[m]> | Tho it is hard to make a task bar, right? |
| 00:08:12 | <abastro[m]> | It seems quite a task to learn reflex as well, hmm |
| 00:08:14 | <geekosaur> | not really. the things that distinguish a task bar from another window are (1) usually override_redirect (2) struts |
| 00:08:28 | <geekosaur> | yes, frp is a very different way to approach GUI programming |
| 00:08:39 | <geekosaur> | but it's designed with functional programming in mind |
| 00:10:26 | <abastro[m]> | I recall you saying that making task bar is quite bothersome |
| 00:11:42 | <geekosaur> | I don't think I said that. task bars are mostly simple windows. the simplest task bar is dzen, which is just a blank canvas with a strut |
| 00:11:51 | <geekosaur> | dzen2 I should say |
| 00:12:45 | <geekosaur> | hm, unless you literally mean task bar like the gnome, mate, etc. task bar widgets, but that's enumerating windows with XQueryTree |
| 00:13:20 | <geekosaur> | indicator applets / tray applets are a bit more work but there are libraries to help with that |
| 00:13:38 | <geekosaur> | hm, and libraries to help with task bar widgets (I'm thinking libwnck) |
| 00:14:17 | <abastro[m]> | I see, I wonder why there are not so many taskbars then. |
| 00:14:36 | <geekosaur> | most people just stick to xmobar |
| 00:14:56 | <geekosaur> | I mean, there are multiple bars available that work with xmonad, but mostpeople just don't care |
| 00:17:27 | <geekosaur> | I like my mate-panel, but then that's why I run xmonad under mate :) |
| 00:33:41 | <abastro[m]> | mate-panel? |
| 00:34:17 | <abastro[m]> | Oh it is shipped with another DE |
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| 00:38:38 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 00:38:53 | <geekosaur> | I think the only one like that that can still be used standalone is lxpanel |
| 00:39:14 | <geekosaur> | used to be xfce4-panel could, but they changed that a few years ago |
| 00:55:58 | <abastro[m]> | How does mate-panel look? |
| 01:02:01 | <geekosaur> | https://imgur.com/FYagmZQ.png |
| 01:03:08 | <geekosaur> | I have a panel with a taskbar and swap monitor at the top, and another with menu button, xmonad-log-applet, and systray on the bottom |
| 01:03:34 | <geekosaur> | not very different from any other DE's panel |
| 01:39:09 | <abastro[m]> | <del>Holy tabs</del> |
| 01:39:38 | <abastro[m]> | It looks similar to gnome panel, yeah |
| 01:41:06 | <geekosaur> | actually it is gnome-panel: the mate devteam took over gnome 2 support and development after gnome 3 came out |
| 01:41:16 | <geekosaur> | so mate is basically gnome 2 |
| 01:41:39 | <abastro[m]> | Ohh, I see |
| 01:41:48 | <abastro[m]> | It looks good! Though not the look I am looking for |
| 01:43:21 | <abastro[m]> | https://preview.redd.it/8jzwbsxtodk81.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=45c103185fa536af717658cdc2371abde4a5bb8f |
| 01:43:57 | <abastro[m]> | Do you know of a way to attain this kind of look without taffybar? |
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| 06:58:24 | <Solid[m]> | why not just use taffybar if you like its looks? |
| 07:00:28 | <abastro[m]> | Well, I should have said |
| 07:00:46 | <abastro[m]> | I like the part of it I designed (CPU and Memory widget part( |
| 07:01:11 | <abastro[m]> | That and task bar background color |
| 07:04:17 | <Solid> | my point still stands |
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| 07:07:54 | <abastro[m]> | Uhm, which point? |
| 07:08:00 | <abastro[m]> | Oh are you slot-[m]? |
| 07:08:11 | <Solid> | yes |
| 07:08:27 | <abastro[m]> | I forgot to say why not taffybar, yea it is because it feels quite clunky to customize |
| 07:08:41 | <Solid> | but you only have to do that once ;) |
| 07:08:46 | <abastro[m]> | <del>That and the maintainer isn't super responsive</del> |
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| 09:08:58 | <abastro[m]> | Well there is this specific effect I want to implement |
| 09:09:12 | <abastro[m]> | That is, changing the color of the cpu dynamically |
| 09:10:02 | <abastro[m]> | But it seems clunky to set that up |
| 09:22:42 | <yusz-01[m]> | <abastro[m]> "That is, changing the color of..." <- can do that with XMobar easily |
| 09:22:51 | <yusz-01[m]> | no need to write Haskell |
| 09:23:53 | <abastro[m]> | Well, for CPU I need its color to dynamically change, and for Memory I need a bar visible beneath the overlay |
| 09:24:42 | <yusz-01[m]> | https://github.com/jaor/xmobar/blob/master/doc/plugins.org#cpu-and-memory-monitors |
| 09:24:49 | <yusz-01[m]> | Both support dynamic colour change and bars |
| 09:24:56 | <yusz-01[m]> | Both modules of XMobar |
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| 09:25:23 | <yusz-01[m]> | Use a Nerd Font though if you want bars |
| 09:29:32 | <abastro[m]> | No no, I don't mean the text bars |
| 09:30:01 | <abastro[m]> | That is lacking huge in flexibility, I don't think you could ever overlay an image over the text displaying the bar. |
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| 10:38:29 | <Solid> | abastro[m]: Ivan is here sometimes (at least over the matrix bridge); maybe you can ask for help regarding that then |
| 10:39:10 | <abastro[m]> | Wait, this chat was mainly IRC? |
| 10:39:42 | <abastro[m]> | Oh no.. all the modifications and replies I did would have spammed then.. 😱 |
| 10:40:43 | <abastro[m]> | Btw I am also in taffybar matrix. Could not get enough help regarding it.. :P |
| 10:44:23 | <Solid> | most people are on IRC yes |
| 10:44:28 | <Solid> | at least most devs and long-term users |
| 10:45:16 | <abastro[m]> | I am sorry for modification spams.. |
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| 12:47:25 | <geekosaur> | btw if you like taffybar there is also candybar |
| 12:49:14 | <geekosaur> | dunno how supported it is though |
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| 13:50:11 | <abastro[m]> | Only candybar I could find: https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/8948/candybar |
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| 13:51:24 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/Lokaltog/candybar sadly it seems not updated since 2015 |
| 13:56:40 | <geekosaur> | doesn't look like any of the forks are any better :( |
| 14:01:02 | <abastro[m]> | Even last issue is 2016 :( |
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| 14:18:20 | <abastro[m]> | Well, I also want to add "scroll-down on click" on that visual, but my programming is meh I guess :P |
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| 22:52:58 | <abastro[m]> | I realized the problem I recognized with taffybar |
| 22:53:12 | <abastro[m]> | It doesn't work on 9.2.2 :P |
| 23:05:41 | <geekosaur> | but it compiles? that would be odd |
| 23:06:38 | <abastro[m]> | It does not compile |
| 23:07:08 | <abastro[m]> | One of the file has FlexibleContexts but not FlexibleInstances extension |
| 23:07:18 | <abastro[m]> | That one file breaks everything |
| 23:07:33 | <abastro[m]> | Eh, I guess it is more a gripe towards ghc breaking changes |
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