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| 21:01:45 | <martin2222> | I just installed xmonad and default keybindings are not working |
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| 21:02:08 | <martin2222> | Alt+P Alt+Shift+Enter all do nothing at all |
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| 21:03:15 | <martin2222> | I configured a german keyboard layout for X11 |
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| 21:20:28 | <geekosaur> | are you sure it's running? I would expect alt-shift-enter to work with most keyboard layouts, unless xterm isn't installed (many distributions don't install it any more, although debian at least changes it to run its x-terminal-emulator alternatives selector) |
| 21:25:21 | <martin2222> | xterm is installed |
| 21:26:03 | <martin2222> | Is it normal for the session to depend on an xterm terminal emulator |
| 21:26:59 | <geekosaur> | the default terminal emulator is xterm, unless otherwise configured. as I said, debian does configure it otherwise. you're at the mercy of your distribution in other cases |
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| 21:27:39 | <geekosaur> | but I'd guess if you have it installed then xmonad isn't running. are you using startx, or a display manager login? |
| 21:27:57 | <martin2222> | startx |
| 21:28:15 | <martin2222> | So it's only running X? |
| 21:28:17 | <martin2222> | makes sense |
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| 21:28:33 | <geekosaur> | huh. is there anything in ~/.config/xmonad or ~/.xmonad? |
| 21:29:15 | <martin2222> | I haven't configured anything yet to be fair, but I assumed the default keybindings would be working |
| 21:29:27 | <geekosaur> | I would expect them to be |
| 21:29:46 | <martin2222> | maybe I have to configure X to find xmonad |
| 21:30:04 | <martin2222> | I installed xmonad first assuming it would pull in X as dependency |
| 21:30:31 | <geekosaur> | it should, and startx would fail (loudly) if it didn't. or simply wouldn't be there |
| 21:30:36 | <geekosaur> | how did you run startx? |
| 21:31:08 | <geekosaur> | if you simply did `startx` then what happens will depend on what's in your .xinitrc, or if that doesn't exist then the system xinitrc which won't know about xmonad |
| 21:31:17 | <martin2222> | as user from tty1 |
| 21:34:57 | <martin2222> | I can't find .xinitrc in either /etc/X11/xinit/ or ~/.local/share/xorg |
| 21:35:51 | <geekosaur> | it will simply be xinitrc there, the . version is for your homedir |
| 21:37:09 | <geekosaur> | on my system it runs /etc/X11/Xsession, which depends on what you have installed (on my system it runs MATE) |
| 21:37:29 | <geekosaur> | (I'm on Ubuntu. This *will* vary by distribution) |
| 21:37:31 | <martin2222> | no mention of xmonad there. Should there be? |
| 21:37:44 | <geekosaur> | if it's not mentioned then it won't be running xmonad |
| 21:38:09 | <geekosaur> | probably I'd just do `startx /usr/bin/xmonad` (it must be a full path for historical reasons) |
| 21:38:46 | <geekosaur> | if you installed it manually then you'll want to use the path to wherever it's installed |
| 21:39:07 | <martin2222> | ah now it works |
| 21:39:28 | <martin2222> | but how can I configure this in xinitrc |
| 21:39:42 | <martin2222> | ? so I don't have to always include the path |
| 21:40:24 | <geekosaur> | create ~/.xinitrc which runs xmonad (there you don't need the full path, that's just a startx thing) |
| 21:41:08 | <geekosaur> | make sure to start with "#! /bin/sh" and "chmod +x ~/.xinitrc" after creating it |
| 21:47:08 | <martin2222> | I put "exec startx /usr/bin/xmonad" in there and it fails with no screens found |
| 21:48:03 | <martin2222> | or should I simply use the other xinitrc |
| 21:48:11 | <martin2222> | and put the path there |
| 21:49:13 | <martin2222> | well startx launching startx might not be a good idea |
| 21:49:34 | <martin2222> | Anyways what shall I put inside that xinit script then? |
| 21:52:40 | <martin2222> | ah now it works |
| 21:53:00 | <martin2222> | obvs just execute /usr/bin/xmonad |
| 21:54:14 | <geekosaur> | right |
| 21:54:31 | <geekosaur> | startx takes care of launching the server, you only need to tell it about xmonad |
| 21:56:47 | <martin2222> | thank you |
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| 22:28:58 | <M-elo-[m]> | Don't know how to search for this and thus I am here to ask, does `activeColor` only support hex format? |
| 22:33:11 | <geekosaur> | all the color specifications should accept any valid X11 cdolor specification including names from the color database and rgbi: format |
| 22:37:04 | <M-elo-[m]> | Good to know! |
| 22:38:45 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/ysJtgJRg full details (from `man 7 X`) |
| 22:44:58 | <M-elo-[m]> | I wish more software would support the hsl format |
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