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| 09:09:42 | <aaaaa22[m]> | Hi, I'm new here! Does anyone has configured xmonad in nixos? I'm having trouble with it, it's not as straightforward as in e.g. arch. Does anyone has some tips or links that could be useful? |
| 09:09:42 | <aaaaa22[m]> | Thanks! |
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| 09:44:12 | <[Leary]> | aaaaa22[m]: It should be much more straightforward on NixOS than Arch. |
| 09:45:07 | <[Leary]> | You don't really need more than { enable = true; enableContribAndExtra = true; }, then to write your xmonad.hs as normal. |
| 09:45:16 | <[Leary]> | Extras* |
| 09:46:12 | <[Leary]> | There are various other options, but those are on-need (or on-preference). |
| 09:48:43 | <aaaaa22[m]> | [Leary]: I was confused with those other options then.. like configuring the config with nix and stuff like that. I didn't know that xmonad.hs was also sth that I could use |
| 09:49:15 | <aaaaa22[m]> | Thanks for the tips |
| 09:52:16 | <aaaaa22[m]> | <[Leary]> "You don't really need more than..." <- I knew this already. I was just confuse about how to write the xmonad.hs config file. I thought I had to it with nix syntax and had to use home-manager. I'm still pretty new to nixos. |
| 10:32:35 | <geekosaur> | it's actually a program, so a regular home-manager thing wouldn't work too well |
| 10:33:01 | <geekosaur> | xmonad isn't so much a window manager as it is a window manager construction toolkit |
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| 13:52:47 | <k`> | How does the X11 package deal with adding and removing monitors with RandR when functions like 'screenCount' and 'screenOfDisplay' are pure? |
| 13:54:50 | <geekosaur> | XRandR doesn't use those. an X11-protocol "Screen" is a video card |
| 13:55:31 | <geekosaur> | XRandR uses the old Xinerama hack: every monitor is given its own rectangle cut out of the root window. This is dynamic. |
| 13:56:01 | <k`> | geekosaur: |
| 13:56:05 | <k`> | Thanks! |
| 13:56:52 | <k`> | Read the RandR docs and did not get that. Some of the things I read claimed that it didn't use the 'old xinerama hack'. |
| 13:57:12 | <k`> | Glad that it does after all. |
| 13:57:19 | <geekosaur> | it's been incorporated literally as is into XRandR |
| 13:57:33 | <geekosaur> | the X11 Screen stuff simply can't be used on modern systems |
| 13:58:17 | <geekosaur> | (to be clear, all the higher level Xinerama stuff is gone, only the carving-out-of-the-root-window stuff remains) |
| 13:59:13 | <k`> | I was getting confused between xmonad 'Screen's and xlib 'Screen's. If it's just virtual root windows I'm happy. |
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| 14:59:42 | <Ether[m]> | geekosaur @geekosaur:libera.chat: any updates on xwindow border? |
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| 15:40:21 | Solid | will be MIA for a week or so, just FYI |
| 15:40:31 | <Solid> | it's conference time, finally! |
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| 15:46:16 | <Solid> | would be cool if someone could take a look at #718 in the meantime :) |
| 15:55:03 | liskin | can't promise much; it'll take some time before my work/open-source-work/life-balance settles into something we're all happy with |
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| 16:04:20 | <Solid> | totally fair |
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| 16:06:22 | <liskin> | but I'll definitely be going to zurihac (provided I'm healthy at the time, but I recently had a flu and hopefully still have enough covid immunity, so that should be fine) |
| 16:06:53 | <liskin> | apparently I don't even need to take a vacation for that \o/ |
| 16:16:33 | <geekosaur> | Ether[m], no updates |
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| 21:46:43 | <liskin> | they what?! https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-releases-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/ |
| 21:52:31 | <geekosaur> | yeh, we've been marveling at that in -offtopic |
| 21:52:42 | <geekosaur> | first poster asked if it was a late april fool, even |
| 21:53:13 | <geekosaur> | I personally wonder if it means they need help getting compatible with wayland |
| 22:09:34 | <liskin> | there's no #xmonad-offtopic :-( |
| 22:10:03 | <liskin> | don't think it's related to wayland, as that should work with the existing drivers already |
| 22:10:21 | <geekosaur> | poorly, from what I've heard |
| 22:10:26 | <liskin> | I remember seeing that mentioned in either Fedora 36 or Ubuntu 22.04 release notes |
| 22:10:39 | <liskin> | that Wayland is now default even on nvidia |
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