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| 14:16:32 | <catern> | possibly not an xmonad question: is it possible to display the same workspace on two monitors (of the same size/resolution) at once? |
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| 14:17:30 | <catern> | this question inspired by my frustration at action-at-a-distance when I switch to workspace 2 on display A when workspace 2 is already being displayed on B |
| 14:19:07 | <liskin> | action-at-a-distance can be solved by swapping greedyView for view, or the other way around |
| 14:19:31 | <liskin> | re displaying same workspace on two monitors, xrandr --same-as does that |
| 14:20:39 | <liskin> | but actually being able to switch workspaces independently and also having the option to see a workspace twice, then no, that's not possible with X11 |
| 14:21:16 | <liskin> | it'd only be possible if we controlled the compositor (like we'd need to in Wayland-land), but we don't |
| 14:23:10 | <catern> | got it, thanks! |
| 14:23:53 | <catern> | (so I guess I have something to look forward to in Wayland...) |
| 14:24:18 | <geekosaur> | the compositor would have to support it |
| 14:24:37 | <geekosaur> | for that matter, if there were a compositor that supported it in X11, you could do it here |
| 14:25:05 | <geekosaur> | but without compositor support you can't display the same window in two places in either window system |
| 14:26:08 | <liskin> | yeah technically it can be done in both, it's just that in X11 nothing forces the WM to talk to the compositor directly, so compositors tend to be general and features like this don't get implemented |
| 14:26:33 | <liskin> | in Wayland you're more or less forced to have your own compositor, so you might as well add niche features like this |
| 14:26:35 | <catern> | ah, I see, I see |
| 14:26:52 | <liskin> | or, as it's currently the case, simply give up and not implement anything at all :-D |
| 14:27:10 | <liskin> | because it ends up being much more of a maintenance burden |
| 14:27:10 | <catern> | are there any tiling window managers that have an integrated compositor in X11? (besides I guess tiling extensions for gnome shell and maybe others) I guess those are the ones which might theoretically support this, but forcing the integration means it seems more likely to be supported in Wayland (as liskin said) |
| 14:27:43 | <geekosaur> | gnome and kde only, I think |
| 14:27:51 | <liskin> | never heard of anything like that |
| 14:27:55 | <geekosaur> | for a week there was xmoniz though :) |
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| 15:29:56 | <geekosaur> | mm, git is happy with my signing setup but gpg is throwing errors apparently on some ancient keys in my pubring. really need to clean it (export, nuke, and re-import apparently) |
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| 16:56:31 | <liskin> | git these days can sign commits using ssh-agent as well, btw |
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| 16:57:27 | <liskin> | not sure if that's a good idea but gpg's UI/UX is so horrible that I haven't managed to learn it in 20 years :-( |
| 16:59:43 | <geekosaur> | I'm not impressed with what I'll need to do to clean the pubring, yeh |
| 17:00:05 | <geekosaur> | there's a reason I hadn't used my key since 2009ish |
| 17:05:29 | <geekosaur> | interesting btw, since I started digging for my old key after seeing a commit message from (I thought you? may have been Solid) about putting keys in MAINTAINERS.md, and a grouse that only one maintainer had registered a pubkey with github |
| 17:06:22 | <geekosaur> | while I was digging for the commits to revert to debug the WindowNavigation border issue |
| 17:09:48 | <geekosaur> | having looked at ssh signing, I guess I'll stick with pgp since it's already set up and verified in another repo |
| 17:10:01 | <geekosaur> | and I already uploaded my pubkey to github |
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| 18:23:53 | <liskin> | I see |
| 18:24:11 | <liskin> | we don't really have a specific usecase for the gpg keys in MAINTAINERS.md |
| 18:24:56 | <liskin> | it's just that it could be useful if we need to exchange sensitive stuff or someone else needs to send sensitive stuff to us |
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| 23:07:01 | <geekosaur> | hm. so I imported Solid's pubkey but git log --show-signature still says "no public key". oops? |
| 23:07:21 | <geekosaur> | although it might be ssh, I guess, but he did register a gpg key |
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