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00:19:48 <nihilipster[m]> Hi everyone!, is there a way to stop xmonad to rebuild itself each time that I login?
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00:42:14 <geekosaur> no,although if you're not using a buildscript and you haven't changed anything it should simply check for a rebuild and then skip it as unnecessary
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05:13:15 <Guest80> polybar says The WM does not support _NET_DESKTOP_VIEWPORT and the output of xprop -root The WM does not support _NET_DESKTOP_VIEWPORT gives _NET_DESKTOP_VIEWPORT(CARDINAL) = 0, 0, 0, 1440, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
05:13:18 <Guest80> any idea why?
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08:54:04 <AntonioRomano[m]> Hey guys, I'd like to switch to Xmonad because it's really cool. I have just a couple of question: Does it use a bsp tree like bspwm? Also, how hard is to learn how to configure it? I know a bit of Haskell but where can I find docs for whatever i can do on Xmonad?
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09:08:15 <fizzie> There's a BSP layout in xmonad-contrib, https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-BinarySpacePartition.html
09:08:24 <fizzie> (It's what I use.)
09:10:25 <fizzie> As for documentation on how hard it is to configure and what you can do, one starting point would be the tutorial: https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html
09:11:30 <AntonioRomano[m]> Thank you!
09:11:32 <fizzie> And looking at the list of modules in xmonad-contrib is also good for inspiration.
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12:01:01 <geekosaur> @tell Guest80 there's a PR adding _NET_DESKTOP_VIEWPORT support that hasn't been reviewed yet
12:01:01 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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16:22:33 <nihilipster[m]> <geekosaur> "no,although if you're not..." <- I'm using a build script. At this moment there is a workaround in it, check for a .rebuild file, if it exists then exit the build script so xmonad --recompile exists successfully at login without rebuild itself.
16:23:40 <nihilipster[m]> this is one of the reason I'm building xmonad and xmonad-contrib from github ^_^
16:24:17 <geekosaur> I don't think there's much beyond that that can be done with a build script
16:24:47 <geekosaur> rebuilds on start are kinda needed for upgrades though
16:25:21 <nihilipster[m]> <Guest80> "polybar says The WM does not..." <- This is the main reason why I'm building xmonad and xmonad from github ^_
16:27:51 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/717
16:28:10 <geekosaur> which apparently already landed, I'm losing track :/
16:28:14 <nihilipster[m]> I'm using an update script to sync xmonad and xmonad-contrib from github and reinstall them if needed:
16:28:14 <nihilipster[m]> https://git.sr.ht/~nihilismus/voidfiles/tree/main/home/nihilipster/.local/opt/bin/xmonad-update
16:28:34 <geekosaur> yeh, I have an update.sh locally
16:28:42 <geekosaur> independent of the buildscript though
16:32:23 <nihilipster[m]> Thanks for the feedback, I'm going to let this as it is then 😄
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22:54:45 <stoned> I can possibly start maintaining some Xmonad KDE packags for plasmashell with th erequired chanegs
22:55:00 <stoned> I'm seeing more peopel useing xmonad + kde and having the plasma menu/panel bug.
22:55:35 <stoned> And I'm on 5.92 plasma, but people could be using any version. So various differetn versions, it might be useful if I setup a repo of packages they can get. That means I have to build the packages for various distros.
22:55:52 <stoned> Same is true of all distros as the change is upstream at KDE
22:56:11 <stoned> So what'a good solution to making sure everyone can easily install that patch I posted
22:56:19 <stoned> \o/
22:56:52 <stoned> xmonad/xmonad-contrib#691 bug i mean
22:56:54 <geekosaur> maybe host them on github and use its CI to build them?
22:56:58 <stoned> hmm
22:57:08 <stoned> but for all distros/pacakge?
22:57:24 <stoned> Perhaps it would be best to make sure I can provide patches for different versions of plasma
22:57:31 <stoned> and they can then follow directions to build the package themselves
22:57:38 <stoned> people find it harder to edit code than run commands
22:57:53 <geekosaur> distros should be doable. versions of KDE possibly not, but you may only have to worry about one version which will work for everyone even if it's not a 100% match with the rest of their KDE
22:58:01 <stoned> hmm
22:58:09 <stoned> I'll ponder this over more. I'm gonna go study for now. <3
22:59:26 <geekosaur> and if KDE version skew goes along with distros, which seems likely, that may end up not being a problem in practice beyond having to maintain separate patches for them
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