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| 04:09:16 | <Drishal[m]> | hmm I have a small issue |
| 04:09:16 | <Drishal[m]> | I am trying to make zoom float fully |
| 04:09:16 | <Drishal[m]> | but the problem is, each other window launched from zoom has a different className |
| 04:09:16 | <Drishal[m]> | and each time I lauch a new meating the classname changes |
| 04:09:35 | Drishal[m] | uploaded an image: (155KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/hXRnoLrQQQmOdeAUsEcxwjXA/image.png > |
| 04:09:47 | <Drishal[m]> | xprop looks something like this |
| 04:09:48 | <Drishal[m]> | any way to make zoom float? |
| 04:22:17 | <[Leary]> | Drishal[m]: The _NET_/WM_NAME property looks promising, assuming it's set when xmonad gets the window. That should correspond to `title`. |
| 04:23:46 | <Drishal[m]> | atm I have... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/6049d156867b1436fd4c1e2e598dabdea22c2b34) |
| 04:24:13 | <Drishal[m]> | so I need to add `title =? "Zoom Meetings"` right? |
| 04:27:04 | <[Leary]> | Sans the `s`, yeah. |
| 04:28:11 | <Drishal[m]> | the problem is it floats only the main window |
| 04:28:25 | <Drishal[m]> | settings, notifications no longer float |
| 04:28:46 | <Drishal[m]> | aa zoom is a BIG PITA |
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| 07:52:17 | <spaceseller> | Hi, new xmonad user. It works great on arch linux with pretty old laptop. Unfortunately I can't find the soultion for the xmobar always on top. Namely, windows hide it. |
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| 10:59:40 | <Solid[m]> | spaceseller: did you go through the [tutorial](https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html)? That should cover it |
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| 11:29:15 | <geekosaur> | Drishal[m], if you can't know the className ahead of time your only option may be https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-FloatNext.html |
| 11:56:19 | <geekosaur> | mm, those WM_CLASS entries are ugly. but I guess you could match on them with `className ^? "join?"` (see XMonad.Hooks.ManageHelpers for (^?) and similar matchers) |
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| 12:35:01 | <geekosaur> | @tell spaceseller [23 10:59:40] <Solid[m]> spaceseller: did you go through the [tutorial](https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html)? That should cover it |
| 12:35:01 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
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| 14:29:18 | <AntonioRomano[m]> | Hey guys is it possible to interactively check xmonad's doc through ghci or something like that? |
| 14:34:22 | <Solid> | not that I know of |
| 14:35:06 | <Solid> | although you could use something like HLS to interactively do this with an editor |
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| 14:39:32 | geekosaur | checks to see how functional :doc is with cabal repl and ghc 9.2 |
| 14:47:54 | <geekosaur> | mm, looks like if you use `ghc-options: -haddock` then :doc will work |
| 14:48:10 | <geekosaur> | have to rebuild everything with -haddock to get it, and use ghc 9.2 |
| 14:48:14 | <Solid> | oh, neat |
| 14:48:32 | <Solid> | I didn't even know about :doc |
| 14:53:26 | <Solid> | indeed, stack ghci --haddock also works |
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| 16:30:18 | <geekosaur> | think I may have found a bug in 9.2.2, need to experiment more and then check ghc's issue tracker |
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| 16:31:39 | <geekosaur> | (import qualified XMonad.StackSet as W, then :doc either W.peek or XMonad.StackSet.peek, it claims the module has no documentation. but XMonad.Core does, and there should be no difference. I suspect qualified import is confusing it.) |
| 16:44:52 | <geekosaur> | hm, nope, it works for other modules. don't see what's different about X.StackSet |
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| 17:27:56 | <geekosaur> | Solid, can you access any documentation from XMonad.StackSet? I've been playing around with different combinations (partial imports, qualifieds, etc.) and only XMonad.StackSet is broken for me |
| 17:41:32 | <Solid> | geekosaur: yeah it works |
| 17:41:49 | <Solid> | if I run `stack ghci --ghci-options=-haddock` I can call `:doc peek` and it gives me the right docs |
| 17:41:53 | <Solid> | on 9.0.2 |
| 17:42:06 | <geekosaur> | huh. so either I've done something wrong or cabal 3.6.2.0 is buggy |
| 17:45:22 | <Solid> | if I run `cabal repl --repl-options=-haddock` and then import XMonad.StackSet, :doc works as well |
| 17:45:43 | <Solid> | this is also with cabal-install 3.6.2.0 |
| 17:45:52 | <geekosaur> | same version |
| 17:46:30 | <geekosaur> | difference might be I had things built without and then dropped `package *\n ghc-options: -haddock` into cabal.package |
| 17:46:54 | <geekosaur> | I'm not sure it's enough to use --repl-options since I think this stuff has to be written to the .hi during compile |
| 17:47:45 | <Solid> | it does recompile the modules before loading them |
| 17:47:48 | <geekosaur> | unless it's compiling to bytecode when you do that |
| 17:48:05 | <geekosaur> | mm, right, I'm working from a directory with an xmonad.hs in it and it's compiling that |
| 17:48:37 | <Solid> | oh right, I should try that, I was in the xmonad directory directly |
| 17:48:40 | <geekosaur> | xmonad and -contrib are precompiled, supposedly recompiled with -haddock (and XMonad.Core and XMonad.Operations and XMonad.Actions.Search work) |
| 17:49:34 | <geekosaur> | in any case I no longer think this is a ghc issue but more likely pilot error of some kind |
| 17:49:54 | <geekosaur> | like my import issue with this same seytup which turned out to be missing `other-modules` |
| 17:56:36 | <geekosaur> | iiinteresting. `touch`ed StackSet.hs and it didn't get recompiled |
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| 18:17:12 | <Hash> | https://twitter.com/HashBorgir/status/1528800480629075968 |
| 18:17:17 | <Hash> | Just gonna leave this right here. |
| 18:17:26 | <Hash> | I love the Xmonad community. |
| 18:17:43 | <Hash> | No matter how harsh the criticism, no matter how strong it is, it's taken well and in kind. |
| 18:17:58 | <Hash> | DWM, and Suckless people, man, they are just... I can't even. |
| 18:18:48 | <Hash> | No need to say anything mean or whatever just because they didn't like my criticism and booted me. |
| 18:18:59 | <Hash> | But just shows... and you know what I said? |
| 18:19:07 | <Hash> | Suckless software sucks until you patch it up and make it not suck. |
| 18:19:15 | <Hash> | Apparently, that's uncivil. |
| 18:19:22 | <Hash> | Long live Xmonad! |
| 18:27:45 | <liskin> | Haskell people are notoriously hard to offend :-) |
| 18:29:57 | <Hash> | Hey man, what's up |
| 18:39:52 | <liskin> | Vacation \o/ |
| 18:54:20 | <AntonioRomano[m]> | Can you please suggest me a good Xmonad (optionally xmobar also) that acts as a good quick dive in for creating my personal config? |
| 18:54:34 | <Hash> | Eh? |
| 18:54:41 | <AntonioRomano[m]> | * good Xmonad config (optionally xmobar |
| 18:54:44 | <Hash> | Liek a sample config? |
| 18:54:59 | <Hash> | google for "site:github.com xmonad.hs" |
| 18:55:34 | <Hash> | insite:github.com xmonad.hs |
| 18:55:38 | <Hash> | site or insite either I dunno |
| 18:56:07 | <Hash> | https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Config_archive check this too |
| 18:56:50 | <AntonioRomano[m]> | Hash: This works better than GitHub's built in search wow |
| 18:57:29 | <geekosaur> | there's something wrong with the built in search: we don't show up in that, for example |
| 18:57:42 | <geekosaur> | discovered that last week |
| 18:57:52 | <geekosaur> | I presume some index somewhere is broken |
| 19:02:25 | <Hash> | Yeah, I use google mostly. |
| 19:02:27 | <Hash> | :) |
| 19:02:38 | <Hash> | Google also, 'advanced google search tricks/tips' etc. |
| 19:04:05 | <Solid> | I mean, people are doing this in their free time; I can't imagine anyone being happy with "your software sucks" |
| 19:04:23 | <Hash> | Well, if you call your software suckless |
| 19:04:27 | <Hash> | it means it still sucks, but less. |
| 19:04:35 | <Hash> | I said, suckless sucks until you patch it up and make it not suck. |
| 19:04:45 | <Hash> | That's hardly a mean or out of line thing to say. |
| 19:05:01 | <Solid> | probably not |
| 19:05:06 | <Solid> | but I wasn't there either so I dunno |
| 19:05:12 | <Hash> | I'd understand your point if I went there and liek a cunt, said, hey, your software sucks |
| 19:05:16 | <Hash> | Then yeah, I'd be the cunt. |
| 19:05:20 | <Hash> | Totally agree. |
| 19:05:54 | <geekosaur[m]> | Drop the "c" word please |
| 19:06:25 | <Hash> | Ok. |
| 19:06:28 | <Hash> | but you must be American. |
| 19:06:32 | <Hash> | to take offense to that word. |
| 19:06:35 | <Solid[m]> | cidra_[m]: the tutorial is a pretty good start, imo ( matter how harsh the criticism, no matter how strong it is, it's taken well and in ) |
| 19:06:36 | <Hash> | Cultural differences. |
| 19:06:50 | <Solid[m]> | woops, I meant to paste https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html |
| 19:07:54 | <Solid> | also interesting: cidra_ does not seem to be getting through the bridge? |
| 19:08:27 | <geekosaur[m]> | Also not seeing them |
| 19:09:19 | <AntonioRomano[m]> | Solid: What do you mean? |
| 19:10:11 | <Solid> | oh, the nick just changes |
| 19:10:28 | <Solid> | nvmd then :) |
| 19:10:37 | <Solid> | but, really, check out the tutorial for a base config! |
| 19:11:11 | <geekosaur[m]> | Ohh right I see them in backscroll now |
| 19:11:53 | <geekosaur[m]> | And yes we have a tutorial in addition to the configs you can find on GitHub |
| 19:12:52 | <AntonioRomano[m]> | <slot-[m]> "cidra_[m]: the tutorial is a..." <- I've already read it and did whatever is said, but it is pretty small and basic, that's why I am searching for some config online. This is also an opportunity for me to learn some Haskell by reading and understanding some code :p |
| 19:13:46 | <AntonioRomano[m]> | The biggest challenge for me right now is to get a good grasp of the docs. It looks hard for me to navigate but I guess I'll get used to it |
| 19:24:08 | <Solid> | there are some of our configs at the end, but they may not be the easiest to read |
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