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08:26:16 <valarMorghulis[m> I'm have installed `xmonad` using stack following this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvKAiR403O0&t=1003s... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c9c3f4017d0f9e251b96f71f840f37abd2727a9a)
08:27:48 <valarMorghulis[m> I install `xmonad-dbus` from AUR but I don't understand how this works, should I add this as a dependency in `stack.yaml` file?
08:46:50 <fizzie> What I do with stack is, I've got my own config under `packages: ...` in the top-level stack.yaml, and then in that package's own .cabal file I do `build-depends: ..., dbus >=1.2 && <1.3, ...`.
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09:06:33 <Solid> yes you don't want to (and can't, really) mix stack and AUR packages
09:08:32 <Solid> and you want to add xmonad-dbus to the build debends, not just dbus
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14:38:12 <dcleonarski> a quick tip for why isn't xmonad reloading my just-recompiled binary?
14:38:33 <dcleonarski> an ls in my ~/.xmonad reveals: lib prompt-history xmonad-x86_64-linux xmonad.errors xmonad.hi xmonad.hs xmonad.o xpm
14:38:59 <geekosaur> how do you know it's not reloading?
14:40:26 <geekosaur> (if you changed something in your layout, you will need to press mod-shift-space to activate it; this is because xmonad can't tell the difference between edits in your config and changes made with e.g. mod-comma)
14:47:17 <dcleonarski> I know it's not reloading because I've changed the name of a workspace and it's not reappearing in the xmobar
14:47:50 <dcleonarski> after changing the xmonad.hs, I type "modkey-Q", which runs:
14:47:55 <dcleonarski> , ((modm, xK_q), spawn "xmonad --recompile; xmonad --restart")
14:48:09 <dcleonarski> I tried to run it manually in the terminal, but no success
14:50:04 <dcleonarski> I have a simple array of strings defining my workspaces, and then pass it forward to a xcfeConfig call like this:
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14:50:14 <dcleonarski> , workspaces = myWorkspaces
14:50:36 <dcleonarski> it's curious because it worked the first time I ran it
14:50:51 <Solid> AFAIK workspaces are also held inside some state
14:51:09 <Solid> you might need to quit X and properly restart xmonad
14:51:57 <dcleonarski> I've already restarted the OS
14:52:09 <dcleonarski> running Arch Linux
14:52:22 <dcleonarski> $ uname -a Linux atlantis 5.15.35-1-lts #1 SMP Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:49:16 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux
14:52:50 <dcleonarski> ~/.xmonad/xmonad.errors is empty
14:58:05 <Solid> what happens if you run `xmonad --recompile` in a terminal? how are you starting xmonad; perhaps there is some stray executable on your system
15:00:33 <dcleonarski> $ xmonad --recompile
15:00:34 <dcleonarski> XMonad will use ghc to recompile, because "/home/user/.config/xmonad/build" does not exist.
15:00:34 <dcleonarski> XMonad recompilation process exited with success!
15:01:02 <dcleonarski> hmmmm
15:01:27 <dcleonarski> it looks like I have to clean that .config/xmonad?
15:01:36 <dcleonarski> the stray you mentioned
15:02:29 <geekosaur> changing a workspace name is a bit weird because it'll usually recreate the old one during mod-q because there are existing references to it, then stick the new one at the end. but this shouldn't persist across reboots
15:02:48 <geekosaur> arch does have some odd issues but recompile usually cleans them up
15:05:51 <Solid> `which -a xmonad` should at least tell you about other executables
15:06:44 <dcleonarski> wow, 2 binaries, da heck
15:07:20 <dcleonarski> I had installed theses 3 packages using aura/pacman: xmonad xmonad-contrib xmonad-utils
15:10:24 <dcleonarski> $ aura -Qo /usr/bin/xmonad -> /usr/bin/xmonad is owned by xmonad 0.15-182
15:10:24 <dcleonarski> $ aura -Qo /bin/xmonad -> /usr/bin/xmonad is owned by xmonad 0.15-182
15:11:30 <geekosaur> that sounds like /bin might be symlinked to /usr/bin. some distros do that
15:11:46 <geekosaur> (the distinction between them kinda went away with large hard drives)
15:13:16 <dcleonarski> nope, both are ELF 64-bit binaries
15:13:35 <dcleonarski> identical BuildID[sha1]
15:13:52 <geekosaur> right. note that it claimed /usr/bin/xmonad for both
15:13:55 <dcleonarski> trying to figure out why the same package is giving me duplicate binaries
15:14:05 <geekosaur> that's why I think /bin is a symlink to /usr/bin
15:14:31 <geekosaur> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/6IiHzvm0
15:14:32 <dcleonarski> wow, true, didn't pay attention to the second call
15:14:45 <dcleonarski> but why is the program "file" telling me it is a binary?
15:14:57 <dcleonarski> ahh
15:15:01 <dcleonarski> YES
15:15:13 <dcleonarski> hahaha, sorry for the confusion
15:15:20 <dcleonarski> Arch stuff
15:15:26 <geekosaur> ubuntu does the same
15:15:40 <dcleonarski> days ago I noticed the same pattern with "sh"
15:15:42 <geekosaur> the distinction between the two is a historical artifact from the days of tiny hard drives
15:15:53 <dcleonarski> hmmm, restricted path length
15:16:25 <geekosaur> so / was just big enough to boot to the point of mounting /usr
15:16:28 <dcleonarski> Ubuntu has symlinked "sh" to dash, whereas Arch has symlinked it to bash
15:16:35 <geekosaur> yes
15:18:16 <dcleonarski> in fact, I'm still trying to understand about xmonad's initialization... when I choose it in lightdm as my WM, do I need the .xinitrc calling "exec xmonad"?
15:18:44 <geekosaur> probably not, that should use something in /usr/share/xsessions
15:18:50 <geekosaur> but you have less control that way
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16:25:54 <valarMorghulis[m> <fizzie> "What I do with stack is, I've..." <- Can I get any documentation on how to set up xmonad with stack? I'm new to stack
16:26:24 <valarMorghulis[m> > <@lladeebll:matrix.org> I'm have installed `xmonad` using stack following this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvKAiR403O0&t=1003s... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/f1efc7ab89a73f6736a47fc26b17a13a7c8866ef)
16:26:26 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’
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19:11:39 <Solid> valarMorghulis[m: https://xmonad.org/INSTALL.html
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20:47:21 <bnchs__> hey
20:47:41 <bnchs__> how do you switch workspaces in a keyboard layout that needs shift to type numbers
20:47:57 <bnchs__> like AZERTY
20:52:48 <geekosaur[m]> There's an AZERTY layout in contrib
20:55:16 <bnchs__> alright thanks
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23:23:41 <spider_> hey folks, I just want to get the number of windows in the current workspace - there's this solution floating around on the internet
23:23:43 <spider_> windowCount = gets $ Just . show . length . W.integrate' . W.stack . W.workspace . W.current . windowset
23:24:05 <spider_> just wondering if there's a shorter/nicer way or if this is the "normal" way of doing it
23:26:18 <geekosaur> gets $ fmap length . W.integrate' . W.stack . W.workspace . W.current . windowset
23:26:35 <geekosaur> Ihave no idea what the rest of that is supposed to be doing
23:26:50 <geekosaur> actually, hm, no fmap there
23:27:10 <geekosaur> empty list if no stack, so length works as is
23:27:11 <spider_> https://stackoverflow.com/a/62075879
23:27:14 <spider_> ah these ones are super short
23:27:24 <spider_> winCount = length . W.index . windowset <$> get
23:27:40 <spider_> yeah I wasn't sure why `Just` was shoved in
23:28:30 <geekosaur> right, that makes sense
23:28:36 <geekosaur> or why show was mixed in
23:28:43 <spider_> yeah lol
23:28:51 <spider_> time to go read the docs and see what the heck index does
23:29:19 <spider_> O(s). Extract the stack on the current workspace, as a list. The order of the stack is determined by the master window -- it will be the head of the list. The implementation is given by the natural integration of a one-hole list cursor, back to a list.
23:29:45 <geekosaur> unless they're after a Maybe String for ppExtras
23:29:58 <spider_> yeah it was displayed in xmobar so it's likely
23:30:35 <spider_> I learned some haskell and started rewriting from scratch, this time I'm trying to understand every function

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