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| 03:40:32 | <esrh> | hi, i really need some haskell help. I wrote a little XPrompt to let me select named scratchpads, and it works. However, I'd like to close whichever scratchpad I opened last with a single command. Clearly, this means I need to record some kind of state, about which scratchpads are open and closed. Anyone have any idea about how I should go about this? |
| 03:41:28 | <esrh> | (preferably, I'd like the same key to bring up the prompt i made when there aren't any scratchpads, and take them all away immediately when there are active scratchpads) |
| 05:58:55 | <esrh> | update: i got it to work after about two hours of absolutely flailing |
| 06:07:39 | <Solid> | \o/ |
| 06:18:00 | <esrh> | god bless findM |
| 06:19:05 | <esrh> | if i have a handle on a window from StackSet.index, how can i check whether the window is currently floating or not? |
| 06:24:38 | <Solid> | the stackset has a `floating` field |
| 06:24:59 | <Solid> | it's a map with the windows as keys, so you can just look them up there |
| 06:27:11 | <esrh> | ok thanks, got it |
| 06:27:20 | <esrh> | holy cow |
| 06:27:24 | <esrh> | i think i lost years off my life |
| 06:27:28 | <esrh> | but my setup is sooooo good |
| 06:27:31 | <esrh> | worth it |
| 06:28:14 | <esrh> | I have like 5 different scratchpads and they're all accessible and closable through the exact same keybind |
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| 06:32:40 | <Solid> | that sounds pretty neat, actually |
| 06:33:07 | <Solid> | If you're up for it, this sounds like a great addition to contrib! |
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| 06:37:19 | <esrh> | Huh, maybe I could give it a shot. What i did though, was make an XPrompt to select NamedScratchpads, so would i write a patch to XMonad.Prompt or NamedScratchpad? I guess making a new module like XMonad.Prompt.NamedScratchpad could be cool too |
| 06:37:33 | <esrh> | not sure if this kind of interdependency is looked favorably upon |
| 06:39:26 | <Solid> | I think a XMonad.Prompt.NamedScratchpad would be totally fine in this case |
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| 06:40:31 | <esrh> | i think i will actually try to add it to contrib once i refactor my code a little bit. thanks! |
| 06:40:34 | <Solid> | An X.Prompt dependency of NamedScratchpads wouldn't be so ideal, I agree, (then again, contrib is full of those :) but we can just link to the prompt module in the docs |
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| 06:40:55 | <Solid> | nice, looking forward to it! |
| 06:41:23 | <esrh> | yeah, see you around though!! |
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| 09:09:25 | <liskin> | Solid, mc47: Looks like multi-currency expenses are enabled now, so you can submit expenses in EUR. |
| 09:09:42 | <mc47> | sweet, thnaks! |
| 09:10:05 | <liskin> | I expected to be able to submit expenses in CHF as well but it seems it's only about being able to submit expenses in the currency of the bank account that it'll be reimbursed to. |
| 09:11:04 | <liskin> | (Which is probably fine becase I paid for all of that in GBP, but it's a bit silly anyway.) |
| 09:35:03 | <Solid> | liskin: coolio, thanks! |
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| 11:07:54 | <spaceseller> | hi |
| 11:10:51 | <lyiriyah[m]> | hi |
| 11:10:58 | <spaceseller> | suggestions about a) laptop and second monitor b) laptop and projector. Xrandr alternative maybe? |
| 11:11:44 | <spaceseller> | or, best practice for dual monitors on xmonad |
| 11:12:47 | <spaceseller> | with different resolutions. |
| 11:13:46 | <spaceseller> | I use xrandr --output LVDS-1 --mode 1366x768 --scale-from 1920x1080 --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --scale 1 --same-as LVDS-1 |
| 11:14:14 | <spaceseller> | but still, it is too small on the laptop screen |
| 12:02:20 | <liskin> | spaceseller: for a), I use the laptop's keyboard so I just put the second monitor 10-20 cm further than the laptop and the resolution differences become less painful |
| 12:02:37 | <kaizoku> | strange spaceseller , i don't have trouble with different resolutions across monitors. I use a 2k and a vertical 1080p (rotated) |
| 12:02:39 | <liskin> | if you wish to have them side-by-side there isn't any good solution I'm afraid |
| 12:02:52 | <kaizoku> | ah, you mean font/dpi sizing issues? |
| 12:03:09 | <liskin> | that's how I understood it |
| 12:03:52 | <kaizoku> | yeah, i just live with that. Since the vertical monitor is just a terminal 90% of the time it's not huge for me |
| 12:06:51 | <Solid> | especially 1366x768 to 1920x1080 should really be no problem |
| 12:06:59 | <Solid> | well, at normal font sizes, not sure how liskin does it :> |
| 12:07:51 | <Solid> | oh, but --scale-from mirrors the screens, right? |
| 12:08:36 | <Solid> | or rather same-as does |
| 12:08:43 | <Solid> | never done that, but I can see how that may result in tiny fonts |
| 12:12:31 | <MrElendig> | I just run different res on each |
| 12:12:35 | <MrElendig> | (no scaling) |
| 12:15:20 | <liskin> | geekosaur: can you please approve my zurihac expenses: https://opencollective.com/xmonad/expenses/83193 ? thx :-) |
| 12:16:20 | <liskin> | it's fun how it really is transparent; without logging in, bank account and receipts and comments (if any) are hidden but the breakdown into travel/accomodation is visible to everyone :-) |
| 12:23:27 | <geekosaur> | approved |
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| 12:32:24 | <spaceseller> | Solid: you get to the point |
| 12:32:56 | <spaceseller> | kaizoku: yes |
| 12:43:44 | <spaceseller> | wow, I see opencollective for the first time. You have donations as an income, everything transparent. Great. |
| 12:45:01 | <geekosaur> | that's the idea |
| 12:46:37 | <geekosaur> | OC charges for it but it's spread over a bunch of projects, so they can afford to operate and make a reasonable profit and we don't have to try to manage our own donations and expenses |
| 12:46:40 | <spaceseller> | where sponsors see the link for donations? |
| 12:47:10 | <spaceseller> | I see |
| 12:47:11 | <geekosaur> | there's a link on github and another on our main page https://xmonad.org |
| 12:47:35 | <spaceseller> | great |
| 12:47:38 | <geekosaur> | (and github sponsors feeds into OC since they don't provide the expenses side) |
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| 17:05:31 | geekosaur | gets a headache re the latest on that GC crash |
| 17:36:50 | <geekosaur> | so for those not on the ticket: (a) it reproduces with `-threaded +RTS -N2` (b) at which point `XNextEvent` smashes the heap (c) in a way that looks like a supposedly fixed FFI bug, although ghc9.2 at least seems to be producing the correct code |
| 17:37:49 | <geekosaur> | also, still not reproducible with ghc8.10.7 |
| 17:38:30 | <geekosaur> | and I just verified that `nextEvent` is correct, as is `allocaXEvent` |
| 17:39:04 | <geekosaur> | (and the X11 header file hsc2hs is using to build `allocaXEvent`) |
| 17:40:17 | <geekosaur> | so this appears to be a ghc bug |
| 17:42:21 | <Solid[m]> | funny, I definitely compiled (both xmonad and my config) without `-threaded` |
| 17:42:29 | <Solid[m]> | this is so confusing |
| 17:43:17 | <geekosaur> | interesting. but it may reproduce without -threaded under some circumstances, bgamari only found that it was very reliable with -threaded +RTS -N2 or higher |
| 17:45:00 | <geekosaur> | which may explain why sonme people only see it occasionally but abastro was seeing it very reliably, etc. |
| 17:46:06 | <geekosaur> | the weirdest part is that -N2 part, since we don't use threads so it shouldn't have any effect at all |
| 17:47:14 | <geekosaur> | and if it were a difference between non-threaded and threaded runtime, it should reliably show with -N1 as well |
| 17:47:43 | <Solid> | mh, now that you mention it, wasn't there an issue when running xmonad with -threaded a while ago? |
| 17:47:47 | <Solid> | something about 100% CPU usage |
| 17:48:03 | <Solid> | probably unrelated, but shows that -threaded can have an effect even for us |
| 17:48:32 | <geekosaur> | vaguely recall something like that but can't recall details. it does change the runtime's behavior even with -N1 though |
| 17:48:52 | <Solid> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/483 found it |
| 17:51:15 | <geekosaur> | right, I see parallel gc was involved too |
| 17:51:33 | <geekosaur> | which is why I asked someone to test with the non-copying gc this weekend |
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