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| 06:40:55 | <valarMorghulis[m> | I was trying to implement top bar in xmonad to show active window instead of the boarder. If I user `noFillsDeco` the problem is that it's not smart even if there is just one window it shows the top bar, therefore I got a code snippet for smart top bar from reddit and I'm using it. It works well but when I try to... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/ca97236c24e423bbafe125e2d0017755dcbbe492) |
| 06:41:33 | valarMorghulis[m | uploaded an image: (819KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/rqTBAUvcrKbYqaxLrmafGGoy/2022-07-07_11-48.png > |
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| 06:42:59 | <valarMorghulis[m> | The first screenshot is with smart bar and thats the issue I'm talking about, and the second screenshot is with `noFrillsdeco` and thats the desired output |
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| 09:08:59 | <liskin> | geekosaur: perhaps there's a way to make the gallery self-maintaining… |
| 09:10:08 | <liskin> | what comes to mind is some kind of modern shit like yaml with links to people's dotfiles repos with some metadata like description and where's the screenshot located, and a github action that updates it at regular intervals |
| 09:10:38 | <liskin> | it'd be deepening our dependency on github though |
| 09:10:51 | <liskin> | quite far down that road anyway, I guess. |
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| 11:06:04 | <kaskal-> | We could also do a repo with a makefile per configuration that fetches the stuff from a user-provided repo every week and commits everything altogether in this single repo. That way we are not dependent if the original user removes the original repo and everything would be self-contained in this single repo. Musts are a Makefile with couple of |
| 11:06:05 | <kaskal-> | variables and a README file. And of course the license of the configuration |
| 11:07:20 | <kaskal-> | and if the service provides like easy enough CI or free, then you can do the building everytime it gets updated, like in mine |
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| 12:11:33 | <liskin> | Good point that we don't really need to depend on that much GH-Action-y stuff |
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| 13:15:49 | <kaskal-> | if it's there, we can use it, but otherwise, nowadays having a simple shell.nix file like in https://github.com/alejandrogallo/xmonad-config/blob/master/shell.nix is enough to setup most xmonad relevant workflows, as long as the CI supports nix |
| 13:36:41 | <liskin> | Every CI supports Nix. In our case, the people would be the bigger problem :-D |
| 13:38:08 | <liskin> | (Not being a NixOS user myself and not having a Haskell day job means I haven't learnt Nix yet.) |
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| 14:05:38 | <dminuoso> | Be glad. I want my time learning nix/nixos back! |
| 14:14:01 | <kaskal-> | dminuoso indeed... but it has already the place allocated in my brain and for people like liskin if you give them the shell.nix file and a makefile and you tell them just do nix-shell and you have a shell with all the environment in place, that's good enough for practical purposes. But yes, beware, nixos = pain at the beginning for sure |
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| 14:20:15 | <liskin> | dminuoso: can't tell if you're joking or not :-) |
| 14:21:04 | <liskin> | kaskal-: if you tell me to just do nix-shell I won't do it :-D |
| 14:22:19 | <liskin> | (although maybe I would, in a VM, to see what it does, and then maybe later I'd be comfortable running that on my main machine too) |
| 14:24:04 | <geekosaur> | the times I've had nox installed I kept it sandboxed. the flip side of its being hermetically sealed against the native OS sneaking in is you can sandbox it just by not running its environment setup |
| 14:24:37 | <geekosaur> | alias nix='. /home/allbery/.nix-profile/etc/profile.d/nix.sh; psys "nix${_BSA_PSYS++$_BSA_PSYS}"' |
| 14:25:12 | <liskin> | oh does it work without the daemon and stuff? |
| 14:25:13 | <geekosaur> | so I know where it's active as well (psys adds a mark to the prompt) |
| 14:25:35 | <geekosaur> | nixos may have a daemon, I haven't noticed one otherwise |
| 14:25:58 | <geekosaur> | can't check now, haven't had a need to install nix on this laptop |
| 14:33:16 | <kaskal-> | liskin I get it ;) However such a shell file can be a trivial one (as is in my case), and then you have to kind of trust the nix people to have kosher packages, which it seems to be the case |
| 14:33:33 | <geekosaur> | I would think I'd have noticed a daemon if it used any significant amount of memory, back when I was stuck on the 2gb netbook |
| 14:44:32 | <liskin> | kaskal-: yeah it's more about this weird obsession of mine of trying to understand how stuff works before using it |
| 14:44:54 | <liskin> | there is not any sane/reasonable argument to be made :-) |
| 14:45:25 | <geekosaur> | dunno, that sounds sane to me |
| 14:45:40 | <geekosaur> | just more and more impossible these days 😕 |
| 14:50:50 | <liskin> | well that's kind of the definition of insane isn't it? |
| 14:51:16 | <liskin> | impossible in relation to the shared reality of society at the time |
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| 15:22:21 | <dminuoso> | liskin: Neither do I. I think Nix/NixOS would be completely great, if it wasnt for the extremely steep learning curve or its piss poor UX |
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