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00:06:51 <geekosaur> brutal violence done to my network 🙂
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04:43:14 <zim0369[m]1> hey geekosaur anything?
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05:57:52 <Solid> ?tell Quelklef I'd say just make the PR and we can discuss it from there
05:57:53 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
05:58:27 <zim0369[m]1> geekosaur: https://dpaste.org/PM135 is the exact config that works on my second machine but not my primary. no xmobar : (
05:58:32 <zim0369[m]1> im going to cry now
05:58:59 <zim0369[m]1> i really need some help now : (
06:05:26 <zim0369[m]1> hey Solid can you help me?
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06:06:26 <Solid> if the config works on another computer, probably not
06:06:48 <zim0369[m]1> but i just did a brand new reinstall of endeavorOS on my main machine
06:18:27 <Solid> and I've never used endeavorOS so I have no idea what could go wrong there
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09:33:01 <zim0369[m]1> Solid: do u think this could be due to kmonad
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13:04:36 <geekosaur> I'd be really surprised if a keyboard manager had anything to do with xmonad vs. xmobar
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13:13:59 <zim0369[m]1> geekosaur: can you at least help me setup polybar?
13:14:36 <zim0369[m]1> I didn't know how to set it up from scratch so I copied a lot of stub code from here: https://gvolpe.com/blog/xmonad-polybar-nixos/
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13:15:44 <geekosaur> probably not. I don't use either xmobar or polybar
13:16:43 <zim0369[m]1> atleast with one line?
13:16:53 <zim0369[m]1> that guys loghook looks like:
13:16:53 <zim0369[m]1> ` , logHook = myPolybarLogHook dbus`
13:17:16 <zim0369[m]1> mine: ` logHook = refocusLastLogHook <> logHook def,`
13:17:23 <zim0369[m]1> how should i modify mine?
13:18:08 <zim0369[m]1> also in his config:
13:18:08 <zim0369[m]1> `myPolybarLogHook dbus = myLogHook <+> dynamicLogWithPP (polybarHook dbus)`
13:18:08 <zim0369[m]1> and
13:18:08 <zim0369[m]1> `myLogHook = fadeInactiveLogHook 0.9`
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13:31:39 <geekosaur> you probably don't need the fadeInactiveLogHook
13:31:58 <geekosaur> you would use <> to add the myPolybarLogHook to yours
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13:33:56 <zim0369[m]1> how do i bring the dbus variable into scope?
13:35:50 <geekosaur> hm. you separated your config from main, right? that means you have to pass it as a parameter to your config
13:40:19 <zim0369[m]1> geekosaur: ```
13:40:20 <zim0369[m]1> main :: IO ()
13:40:20 <zim0369[m]1> main = xmonad $ myConfig
13:40:20 <zim0369[m]1> ```
13:40:24 <zim0369[m]1> this is my main func.
13:40:48 <zim0369[m]1> so `main = xmonad $ myConfig $ dbus`?
13:40:52 <geekosaur> then where do you get dbus from?
13:41:08 <geekosaur> pastebin your full config
13:42:03 <zim0369[m]1> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/dfhoacT0
13:44:04 <geekosaur> mkDbusClient needs to be invoked from main
13:46:00 <geekosaur> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/9qFkNABn
13:47:16 <zim0369[m]1> polybar works
13:47:32 <zim0369[m]1> but now i have to display the right workspaces and polybar overlaps over the windows
13:48:20 <geekosaur> yes, you're missing avoidStruts and docks
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13:52:04 <geekosaur> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/tTV2ozl5
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13:53:04 <geekosaur> "display the right workspaces" means replacing `polybarHook` with whatever you were using before
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13:57:29 <zim0369[m]1> polybar launches the same w/o that configuration
13:57:29 <zim0369[m]1> how am i supposed to integrate polybar with xmonad
13:59:39 <geekosaur> I don't understanmd the question. this modifies xmonad to talk to polybar via dbus; you may need to configure polybar to listen on dbus
14:00:03 <geekosaur> and you probably want to configure polybarHook to do what you want instead of the simple display it currently uses
14:00:30 <geekosaur> but, again, I don't know polybar
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14:04:08 <geekosaur> I presume you have to configure it to display what it's being sent instead of trying to use EWMH (which you have disabled)
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15:14:04 <zim0369[m]1> I went through a lot of configurations and seems like they're all using ewmh
15:14:21 <zim0369[m]1> but i can't use it because it messes up with fakefullscreen
15:17:15 <geekosaur> that shyould only happen if you use the ewmhFullscreen modifier
15:17:22 <geekosaur> it's separate for a reason
15:18:09 <geekosaur> also it looks like polybar might be using a special logger to get information directly from xmonad instead of using EWMH, but I have no clue what this nix xmonad-log package might be
15:19:10 <geekosaur> but looking back at the xmonad config's dbus setup it's almost the same as my setup for xmonad-log-applet in mate-panel
15:19:32 <geekosaur> (that doesn't support polybar, though)
15:23:19 <geekosaur> so that part of polybar config is hidden somewhere in nix and you'll have to find a config that doesn't use nix to find out how to use it
15:23:46 <geekosaur> (*don't* try to switch to nix, it has a very high learning curve)
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15:26:08 <geekosaur> actually that looks like nixos since it includes configuration information, that's even worse than plain nix
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15:34:17 <geekosaur> https://github.com/sagotsky/.dotfiles/blob/master/config/polybar/config-xmonad-log#L94-L98 is how you hook in xmonad-log in a normal config. I have no idea what this xmonad-log program is or whether it's packaged on your distro
15:35:44 <geekosaur> looks like it's not, from a quick google
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15:37:27 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xintron/xmonad-log
15:37:33 <zim0369[m]1> the configuration you sent was all working
15:37:49 <zim0369[m]1> it just needed ewmh and everything worked flawlessly
15:38:04 <zim0369[m]1> as you said i didn't use ewmhfull so my fakefullscreen is still preserved
15:38:08 <zim0369[m]1> thanks
15:38:13 <zim0369[m]1> polybar is <3
15:38:40 <zim0369[m]1> i also went through xmonad-log a while ago and it didn't work for me
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16:46:28 <Quelklef> Solid sounds good! I'm back to work on it, but I'll open a PR once it's ready :^3
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22:11:07 <V42> hello!
22:11:17 <geekosaur> hi
22:11:42 <V42> The website mentions "Full support for GNOME and KDE utilities". I wonder what that means
22:12:18 <V42> Do other window manager not support opening Konsole for example?
22:12:23 <geekosaur> I'm not sure it's even true any more given all the stuff they run in the background that essentially brings up all of gnome/kde respectively
22:12:28 <geekosaur> especially for gnome
22:12:47 <geekosaur> that said, most gnome stuff works for me but I run xmonad as mate's wm
22:14:10 <geekosaur> I think Konsole should work
22:14:23 <geekosaur> plasma file manager own't because it expects plasma-wm
22:14:31 <geekosaur> *won't
22:14:45 <geekosaur> similarly gnome's file manager expects gnome-shell
22:15:09 <geekosaur> butif gnome-flashback is supported on your system then things can work
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22:15:34 <V42> I'm more interested in KDE applications
22:16:07 <geekosaur> KDE stuff is generally better behaved than Gnome stuff; I'd expect most of it to work unless it's hooked into Plasma
22:16:08 <V42> I've already tried the file manager on bspwm. It opened but was unusable
22:18:35 <geekosaur> that said, there is a way to configure kde to use xmonad as its file manager. it does require a patch to plasma though
22:19:00 <geekosaur> %gitc HEAD^{/KDE}
22:19:00 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Spencer Janssen * v0.8-85-g9d0f3485: Add KDE 4 config, thanks to Shirakawasuna on IRC (14 years ago, 1 file, 13+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/9d0f34852c13
22:19:07 <geekosaur> mm, wrong one
22:19:14 <geekosaur> %git HEAD^{/KDE}
22:19:14 <xmonadtrack> Could not find commit HEAD^{/KDE} (git returned 128)
22:19:21 <V42> I'm actually trying to lower resource usage by switching to xmonad
22:19:43 <V42> maybe lowercase?
22:19:52 <geekosaur> ohm it's an issue not a commit
22:20:05 <geekosaur> because there's nothing we can do on our end, it's a plasma misfeature
22:20:16 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/691
22:20:27 <geekosaur> includes several versions of the plasma patch
22:20:36 <geekosaur> foir different kde releases
22:24:58 <geekosaur> anyway switching to xmonad won't lower resource use by much because any kde program will run kdeinit and start a shitton of background services
22:25:40 <geekosaur> lxqt might be a better idea if you want something kde-flavored but lower resources
22:26:51 <V42> I guess I would need to catch Everything In The Terminal Syndrom
22:27:02 <V42> and use alacritty or something
22:27:27 <V42> I routinely run out of RAM these days
22:27:39 <geekosaur> one reason I run mate is because it provides a nice DE experience while being much lighter than KDE or Gnome
22:28:06 <geekosaur> but lxqt is even lighter weight
22:28:15 <V42> funny this is language servers are the most intensive thing I run
22:28:19 <geekosaur> both can be configured to use xmonad as wm
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