Logs on 2022-08-13 (liberachat/#xmonad)
| 00:00:42 | <geekosaur[m]> | Hm, that didn't make it to Matrix |
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| 00:01:34 | <geekosaur[m]> | You need to create a license file because cabal (and stack) both assume you are making a full package |
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| 00:02:21 | <geekosaur> | router is pretending to behave for the moment. (now watch it crash again) |
| 00:03:13 | <geekosaur> | since you seem to be using my cabal file you could also copy the LICENSE file from my repo: https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/LICENSE |
| 00:04:33 | <geekosaur> | why did your earlier screenshot show something different? (specifically that it wasn't finding the build file) |
| 00:05:19 | <geekosaur> | hm, did that do the right thing? |
| 00:05:39 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/raw/skkukuk/LICENSE |
| 00:09:44 | <geekosaur> | router still behaving. now was that because I did a save/restore settings followed by a powercycle, or because I shut down my bridged vmware that seemed to be really busy with the network for some reason? |
| 00:10:00 | <geekosaur> | not planning to test; it's not getting progressively slower now at least |
| 00:11:43 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i sent a screenshot out of order basically |
| 00:11:45 | <isaacthekind[m]> | from before i renamed it to build |
| 00:11:51 | <geekosaur> | ah |
| 00:12:09 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i'll try copying the license |
| 00:12:33 | <geekosaur> | so anyway it wants to see a license. you could copy a GPL license file there if you prefer that (I'm a BSD kinda guy) |
| 00:12:40 | <isaacthekind[m]> | yeah i built a rack recently, for doing some blockchain stuff etc. dealing with routers and ups and switche and everything, is deff a pain sometimes |
| 00:13:01 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i'll copy your license for now.. reading all about license types is actually something on my list |
| 00:13:09 | <isaacthekind[m]> | but currently it's greek so i'll just copy yours |
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| 00:20:11 | <isaacthekind[m]> | it says exited with success oh my, |
| 00:20:13 | <isaacthekind[m]> | rebooting! |
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| 00:24:34 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok great! |
| 00:24:44 | <isaacthekind[m]> | it's all working. thanks so much. and good luck with your router |
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| 01:55:17 | <isaacthekind[m]> | one other thing, if that's ok.. i'm trying to move my xmobar config from xmobarrc into my xmonad haskell file. can someone clarify how i can call my bar in main? i'll include screenshots |
| 01:55:32 | <isaacthekind[m]> | this is the bar: |
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| 01:56:13 | <isaacthekind[m]> | and this is how i was previously calling it in main (when it was in a separate non-haskell file): |
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| 02:15:00 | <geekosaur> | (I'm not supposed to be up right now) |
| 02:15:15 | <geekosaur> | you can'[t put your xmobar config into your xmonad config like that. xmobar is a separate program |
| 02:19:17 | <isaacthekind[m]> | hmm ok. what i want is to use haskell to configure xmobar. |
| 02:19:33 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i figured the easiest way would be to just add it to the file and import xmobar |
| 02:21:23 | <isaacthekind[m]> | is there by any chance a minimal xmobar ha config template that i could be pointed to? i'm kinda struggling convert my mobar config into haskell. |
| 02:21:37 | <isaacthekind[m]> | s/ha/haskell/ |
| 02:21:49 | <isaacthekind[m]> | * is there by any chance a minimal xmobar haskell config template that i could be pointed to? i'm kinda struggling to convert my mobar config into haskell. |
| 02:24:00 | <geekosaur> | https://codeberg.org/xmobar/xmobar/src/branch/master/etc/xmobar.hs |
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| 02:25:19 | <isaacthekind[m]> | thank you. and is running this as simple as running the xmobarrc, i just point the same command at this new file? |
| 02:26:24 | <geekosaur> | iirc yes |
| 02:26:33 | <geekosaur> | but I'm not an xmobar expert |
| 02:26:52 | <geekosaur> | and sadly there isn't much documentation about configuring xmobar in haskell |
| 02:26:53 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok. thank you. gonna try to get this running. |
| 02:27:27 | <isaacthekind[m]> | that's unfortunate. once i get it hooked up i have a feeling i'll be able to ticker with it. |
| 02:27:38 | <isaacthekind[m]> | do you not use xmobar yourself? |
| 02:27:53 | <isaacthekind[m]> | s/ticker/tinker/ |
| 02:28:34 | <geekosaur> | I run xmonad as wm for mate, so I have a couple of mate-panels one of which runs xmonad-log-applet and I log via dbus to it |
| 02:29:04 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs |
| 02:30:30 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok that's deff beyond me atm. but it's interesting to know that some don't run mobar, i sorta figured everyone does. |
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| 03:23:51 | <isaacthekind[m]> | my xmobar haskell file seems set up right, but it's telling me it can't find XMobar, i'm having trouble understanding how i'm supposed to structure these dirs. in the xmobar docs it says that an xmobar.hs file will be autodetected if it's in this dir. why is it unable to find XMobar? |
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| 04:23:37 | <Solid> | isaacthekind[m]: how did you install xmobar? |
| 04:24:09 | <isaacthekind[m]> | pacman on arch |
| 04:24:24 | <isaacthekind[m]> | (same as the other xmonad stuff that is working) |
| 04:28:01 | <Solid> | I would guess that only installs xmobar as an executable and not a library |
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| 04:28:32 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad Tony Zorman * v0.17.0-75-g83a8bb8: TUTORIAL: Fix link to xmobar.hs example (2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/83a8bb8d512a |
| 04:31:08 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i'm not sure i understand this link |
| 04:31:43 | <isaacthekind[m]> | as for solid, how exactly do i fix that? |
| 04:31:44 | <Solid> | that's not for you; just a bot that tracks commits to our main branches |
| 04:31:54 | <isaacthekind[m]> | oh ok. |
| 04:32:05 | <isaacthekind[m]> | like basically this is what i want to do |
| 04:32:34 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i had xmobar working fine when configured via xmobarrc, but i want to configure it via xmobar.hs. i'm just not sure how to link everything up. |
| 04:33:24 | <Solid> | There are a few ways to get xmobar to work with a Haskell-based config; if you want HLS to work, it's probably going to be a project-based approach again |
| 04:34:16 | <Solid> | I have this setup (stack-based, I don't know cabal) like this: https://gitlab.com/slotThe/dotfiles/-/tree/master/xmobar/.config/xmobarrc |
| 04:36:53 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok i think i can make something like that with cabal |
| 04:37:24 | <isaacthekind[m]> | and once i have a project like that, how can i connect it to my xmonad.hs |
| 04:40:30 | <Solid> | The project will generate a normal executable "xmobar" (or whatever name you give it) preloaded with your config |
| 04:40:45 | <Solid> | However you now start `xmobar /path/to/config` you would then just sau `xmobar` |
| 04:40:52 | <Solid> | s/sau/say/ |
| 04:45:33 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i don't know what the s/sau stuff means. but ok. that makes sense. i'm gonna mess around with this. thanks for all the help, id be quite stuck without it. |
| 04:45:44 | <isaacthekind[m]> | :p |
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| 04:48:59 | <Solid> | that was just me correcting my spelling mistake :> |
| 04:49:41 | <Solid> | yw, I too think Haskell based builds for xmobar should be documented a little bit better |
| 04:49:45 | <Solid> | I'll put it on my list, I guess... |
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| 08:40:32 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i'm still trying to get this xmobar stuff working. i've built a directory like the one that i have for xmonad.hs. with a cabal file and a build script. but i'm having a hard time getting it to work. could someone tell me what im getting wrong here.. |
| 08:40:43 | <isaacthekind[m]> | this is the xmobar dir: |
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| 08:41:44 | <isaacthekind[m]> | this is xmobar-bsa.cabal: |
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| 08:43:17 | <isaacthekind[m]> | and this is build: |
| 08:43:41 | <geekosaur> | build script won't matter for xmobar |
| 08:43:52 | <geekosaur> | it's specific to how xmonad manages its config |
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| 08:44:12 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ah ok |
| 08:44:41 | <geekosaur> | also I don't know what xmobar's dependencies are off the top of my head but they don't include wither xmonad or xmonad-contrib |
| 08:45:15 | <isaacthekind[m]> | yeah i just copied your cabal and added xmobar. was planning to whittle it down after getting everything working |
| 08:45:24 | <isaacthekind[m]> | thanks for pointing that out tho |
| 08:45:45 | <isaacthekind[m]> | this is what i do in xmonad.hs |
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| 08:48:14 | <isaacthekind[m]> | so i guess i'm just not clear why i'm not seeing a bar at this point. |
| 08:49:24 | <geekosaur> | I don't see what connects "executab;e xmobar-bsa" to "xmobad" |
| 08:49:35 | <geekosaur> | s/;/l/ |
| 08:49:54 | <geekosaur> | I'd expect to see you running xmobar-bsa |
| 08:52:04 | <isaacthekind[m]> | like this? |
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| 08:52:29 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i don't really get symlinks |
| 08:52:43 | <isaacthekind[m]> | idk if i can just point at it like that |
| 08:53:30 | <isaacthekind[m]> | (i'm planning to take a linux course soon, it obnoxious to not know this kinda stuff) |
| 08:55:10 | <geekosaur> | depends on where the symlink is pointing. you didn;t show that, just the "xmobad" invocation in your xmonad.hs again |
| 08:57:30 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i actually don't even think there is a sym link nym. i'm very confused. |
| 08:57:55 | <isaacthekind[m]> | s/nym/nvm/ |
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| 09:01:31 | <isaacthekind[m]> | yeah i don't get this. like how do i actually make the file for xmobad to run |
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| 09:12:58 | <geekosaur> | I think what you do is, in xmobar-bsa.cabal you change "executable xmobar-bsa" to "executable xmobad" |
| 09:13:21 | <geekosaur> | you then do "cabal install" in that directory to build and install xmobad |
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| 09:14:06 | <geekosaur> | then you can point to the installed file (either by pathname, or by arranging for ~/.cabal/bin to be on xmonad's PATH) in xmonad |
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| 09:19:59 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok i'm gonna try this thx |
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| 09:30:03 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok i'm pretty sure i've done that, but still not bar sadly. |
| 09:31:52 | <geekosaur> | try a full pathname to xmobad. it's not enough to have your terminal have the right PATH; only Fedora reads that when starting an X session |
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| 09:44:38 | <Solid> | (if using a display manager) |
| 09:50:47 | <isaacthekind[m]> | where does cabal put these things |
| 09:50:57 | <isaacthekind[m]> | im trying to locate it so i can specify the full path |
| 09:51:06 | <isaacthekind[m]> | and yeah solid, im using light dm |
| 09:56:31 | <geekosaur> | ~/.cabal/bin as I said earlier |
| 09:58:56 | <isaacthekind[m]> | oh ok gotcha, didn't understand that my bad |
| 10:02:29 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i don't think i'm understanding correctly. is this what you're saying i need to do? |
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| 10:03:17 | <geekosaur> | wrong part |
| 10:04:12 | <geekosaur> | you shouldn't need that parameter at all if you've built a custom xmobar. instead: "~/.cabal/bin/xmobad -x 0" |
| 10:09:30 | <isaacthekind[m]> | still not quite |
| 10:09:33 | <isaacthekind[m]> | this is what's in bin |
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| 10:10:43 | <isaacthekind[m]> | and i adjusted that text |
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| 10:12:08 | <geekosaur> | that's not what I said |
| 10:12:19 | <geekosaur> | "~/.cabal/bin/xmobad -x 0" |
| 10:12:43 | <isaacthekind[m]> | oh my lord |
| 10:12:48 | <isaacthekind[m]> | sorry it's 5am |
| 10:15:18 | <isaacthekind[m]> | oh man yes |
| 10:15:23 | <isaacthekind[m]> | the bar is there |
| 10:16:01 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok thanks for putting up with my level 0 questions. really appreciate it. |
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| 13:57:48 | <Alok[m]> | Hello, I am new to xmonad. I loaded example xmonad config but the YouTube player isn't going completely full-screen. How can I fix that? |
| 13:59:06 | <geekosaur> | are using EwmhDesktops and EwmhFullscreen? |
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| 14:01:02 | <Alok[m]> | geekosaur: myEventHook = mempty |
| 14:01:12 | <Alok[m]> | There's a comment `-- * EwmhDesktops users should change this to ewmhDesktopsEventHook` |
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| 14:02:19 | <geekosaur> | that's out of date |
| 14:02:29 | <geekosaur> | @where paste |
| 14:02:29 | <lambdabot> | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com |
| 14:03:38 | <Alok[m]> | https://batbin.me/corpuscule |
| 14:08:44 | <geekosaur> | what version of xmonad? things changed a bit in 0.17.0 but it's still making its way into distributions |
| 14:11:23 | <geekosaur> | although I think we already had the combinators in 0.16 |
| 14:11:45 | <Alok[m]> | geekosaur: v0.17.0 from Arch repo |
| 14:12:26 | <Alok[m]> | geekosaur: oh this is my old config, I had saved in 2020 |
| 14:18:11 | <geekosaur> | did you have a newer one to show me or should I work from this one? |
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| 14:19:28 | <Alok[m]> | geekosaur: Can you tell me a newer example config? |
| 14:19:50 | <geekosaur> | line 256: `defaults = ewmh . ewmhFullscreen $ def {` |
| 14:20:12 | <geekosaur> | we have a tutorial at https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html |
| 14:20:44 | <geekosaur> | goes through configuring ewmh + fullscreen, the new way to configure status bars, etc. |
| 14:20:58 | <Alok[m]> | Great, I'll try it. Thanks :) |
| 14:21:03 | <geekosaur> | doesn't pointlessly overwrite everything with defaults |
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| 15:52:01 | <Alok[m]> | doing `xmonad --recompile` and then `xmonad --restart` works fine but the keybindings doesn't work why? |
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| 16:07:59 | <Solid> | what happens? |
| 16:10:05 | <Alok[m]> | Nothing, it just doesn't restart/reload |
| 16:13:37 | <Solid> | what's you config? |
| 16:13:41 | <Solid> | s/you/your/ |
| 16:14:14 | <Alok[m]> | I deleted the old one currently, I'm doing the tutorial. I'll let you know if it doesn't work in latest config as well. |
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| 17:02:35 | <Alok[m]> | The audio, brightness keys aren't working here |
| 17:02:40 | <Alok[m]> | https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib/XMonad-Util-EZConfig.html |
| 17:02:55 | <Alok[m]> | * The audio, brightness keys doesn't work. Am I doing it correct? |
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| 17:23:24 | <Solid> | you can to surround them by < and > |
| 17:23:40 | <Solid> | (as the docs say) |
| 17:23:41 | <Solid> | e.g., <XF86AudioRaiseVolume> |
| 17:25:09 | <Alok[m]> | Yeah it fixed the problem thanks :) |
| 17:27:31 | <Solid> | s/can/have/ |
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| 17:30:13 | <Alok[m]> | Is this how I can write pulseaudio command for xmobar? |
| 18:04:27 | <jao> | Alok[m], i use "default" instead of "pulse" and it works well for me. in your template you then need %default:Master% (or, if "pulse" is working, %pulse:Master%) |
| 18:05:13 | <Alok[m]> | jao: can you share the Run command? |
| 18:05:58 | <jao> | Alok[m], exactaly the same as yours above, but instead of "pulse" write "default" |
| 18:06:03 | <Alok[m]> | and anyway to get the internet essid, if connected with ethernet then just show "Connected" else essid of wifi? |
| 18:06:16 | <Alok[m]> | jao: oh okay |
| 18:08:16 | <jao> | Alok[m], for ethernet, use DynNetwork or Network; please look it up in the docs: https://codeberg.org/xmobar/xmobar/src/branch/master/doc/plugins.org#headline-47 |
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| 18:11:37 | <Guest87> | hey, guys, is there a way to have system theme in xmonad? |
| 18:12:31 | <Guest87> | Like how gnome has a system theme that all the applications dynamically follow.. is there a way to do something similar in xmonad? |
| 18:12:44 | <Alok[m]> | jao: Hmm, so I'll need separate for both ethernet and wifi right? There's nothing like Network which handles both |
| 18:16:59 | <jao> | Alok[m], yes that's right |
| 18:17:20 | <Alok[m]> | jao: Oki, Thanks |
| 18:18:08 | <Guest87> | everyday feels like summer with you |
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| 18:38:14 | <Alok[m]> | Xmonad is amazing, I like it. This is enough for today will fix more stuff tomorrow. Thanks everyone |
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| 18:49:51 | <Guave3811Xmonady> | Howdies friends and friendies. Is it possible to let new windows in my tabbed two pane layout spawn on the right instead of the left ? |
| 18:51:54 | <Lears> | Guave3811Xmonady: You probably want to use X.H.InsertPosition. |
| 18:57:57 | <Guave3811Xmonady> | can you tellme how to do it - i am quite new to xmonad :p |
| 18:58:29 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | <Guest87> "hey, guys, is there a way to..." <- If you're refering to general colourschemes:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/30073612bbc05f2d8ee48c1f1623e9f390931e09) |
| 18:59:12 | <Guave3811Xmonady> | https://hastebin.com/decobinepo.lua this is my xmonad.hs |
| 19:07:50 | <Guave3811Xmonady> | ok i understand |
| 19:08:13 | <Guave3811Xmonady> | howver i don't understand the system behind Newer Older and Above, Below, Master, End |
| 19:22:55 | <isaacthekind[m]> | could someone clarify why i have to call xmobar and throw the result away? |
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| 19:23:45 | <isaacthekind[m]> | is it like unsafe so we don't want our program to depend on the result or something? |
| 19:26:42 | <Lears> | Guave3811Xmonady: In your layout, Above should correspond to left and Below to right. Newer is the default behaviour, so you probably want Below and Newer, but you can try out all the combinations to see how they work in practice. |
| 19:28:10 | <Guave3811Xmonady> | alright Thank you Lears |
| 19:28:13 | <Guave3811Xmonady> | one more question |
| 19:29:06 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | spawnPipe returns a handle that can be used to send data to xmobar to display. Using an underscore instead of a variable name means you're throwing it away instead of using it. |
| 19:29:25 | <Guave3811Xmonady> | i have 2 windows open - the right window has focus, I open a new window on the left, which has focus, i close the window and i would like to have focus again in the one i had before i opened the window - instead if have focus of the window on the left - can i change this behavior ? |
| 19:30:23 | <Lears> | Try X.H.RefocusLast |
| 19:37:42 | <isaacthekind[m]> | hmmm well i know what the underscore means. im more so wondering why we're throwing the value away here. |
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| 20:13:06 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | GHC sometimes throws a warning if you declare an unused variable. I use the handle later in my logHook, though I haven't yet looked at understanding how the logHook actually works. |
| 20:17:15 | <isaacthekind[m]> | fair enough |
| 20:17:54 | <isaacthekind[m]> | another question. i'm adding window spacing, but xmonad seems unresponsive to the changes. i can make spacing 5 or 5000 and i still see the same amount of space. any idea why that would be happening? |
| 20:20:04 | <Lears> | Try mod+shift+space (iirc). |
| 20:20:39 | <Lears> | Layout state is dynamic, so xmonad preserves it across reloads when it can (when the type doesn't change). |
| 20:20:59 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ohh ok thank you |
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| 20:36:03 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i'm noticing that spacing between windows stacks together |
| 20:36:26 | <isaacthekind[m]> | so i get more space between windows and other windows than between windows and screen edge. |
| 20:36:38 | <isaacthekind[m]> | is there a way to resolve that |
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| 20:41:40 | <Lears> | isaacthekind[m]: See e.g. spacingWithEdge. |
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| 20:45:42 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ha perfect, thanks |
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