Logs on 2022-08-14 (liberachat/#xmonad)
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| 00:51:58 | <geekosaur> | re spawnPipe and throwing the result away, there is a common misunderstanding that that means xmonad will track the spawned program and kill it on restart |
| 00:52:19 | <geekosaur> | the truth is the *pipe* does that, so throwing the pipe away defeats it |
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| 03:18:10 | <Alok[m]> | Audio keys are working fine, but the brightness ones aren't |
| 03:18:18 | <Alok[m]> | Using EzConfig |
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| 03:53:15 | <jao> | Alok[m], in my config, i have "<XF86BrightnessUp>" (withouth the Kb) |
| 03:58:54 | <Alok[m]> | Nop, doesn't work |
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| 04:23:23 | <Solid> | Alok[m]: try >XF86MonBrightnessUp> and <XF86MonBrightnessDown> perhaps |
| 04:24:25 | <Alok[m]> | Solid: yay it works, Thanks |
| 04:24:57 | <Alok[m]> | Mon is for fn keys ig and kbd for keyboards with dedicated brightness keys |
| 04:25:04 | <Alok[m]> | * `Mon` is for fn keys ig and `kbd` for keyboards with dedicated brightness keys |
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| 05:07:57 | <xmonadgood> | geekosaur I want to create a submap like: |
| 05:11:21 | <xmonadgood> | Moving focus to a workspace: "M-o a"(moves focus to workspace 1), "M-o b"(moves focus to workspace 2)... |
| 05:11:22 | <xmonadgood> | Moving windows to a workspace: "M-o m a"(moves the focused window as well as a window as well as the focus to workspace a), "M-o m b".... |
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| 05:17:40 | <xmonadgood> | anyone? |
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| 05:58:30 | <isaacthekind[m]> | hey sorry i don't wanna cut you off, so maybe after ppl answer you they can address this. i really love the way this guy has set up a blue highlight bar as opposed to a full window highlight. i notice this is like over 5 years old though, and the repo has not been updated. i'm just wondering if maybe something has been implemented in recent years that will allow me to get this kind of behavior without having to make the bar from |
| 05:58:30 | <isaacthekind[m]> | scratch. |
| 05:58:30 | <isaacthekind[m]> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70IxjLEmomg |
| 06:02:25 | <Solid> | Lears once implemented this as a decoration style, but it never made its way into contrib |
| 06:02:33 | <Solid> | you can find it here: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/152#issuecomment-362716434 |
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| 06:03:01 | Solid | is thinking maybe we should just make it into a proper module; enough people have been requesting it lately |
| 06:08:39 | <zim0369[m]1> | > <@isaacthekind:matrix.org> hey sorry i don't wanna cut you off, so maybe after ppl answer you they can address this. i really love the way this guy has set up a blue highlight bar as opposed to a full window highlight. i notice this is like over 5 years old though, and the repo has not been updated. i'm just... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/43dd6f7fc87793c8170b38766b7e6d6a62a7cd53) |
| 06:08:41 | <lambdabot> | <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’ |
| 06:09:23 | <zim0369[m]1> | isaacthekind: https://github.com/zim0369/dots/blob/main/config/xmonad/xmonad.hs |
| 06:10:06 | <zim0369[m]1> | At the bottom there's a highlight bar section. and there are imports related to it at the top. Then apply myDecorate on your layout as in myLayout in my config |
| 06:11:15 | <isaacthekind[m]> | > * <@Solid:libera.chat> is thinking maybe we should just make it into a proper module; enough people have been requesting it lately |
| 06:11:15 | <isaacthekind[m]> | plz! |
| 06:11:16 | <lambdabot> | <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘*’ |
| 06:11:29 | <isaacthekind[m]> | zim0369[m]1: perfect, i'm gonna try this, thank you |
| 06:11:38 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ahh i see it there, it's similar to what solid sent |
| 06:11:48 | <isaacthekind[m]> | awesome thank you both |
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| 06:26:38 | <Hash> | I'm kind of getting tired of having to use/rely on kde panels |
| 06:27:07 | <Hash> | What panel do you use that doesn't have any gtk/qt or whatever silly depenendyc and has a full menu, app switcher, virtual desktop switcher, systray, etc. |
| 06:27:45 | <Hash> | Oh that works with mouse. |
| 06:28:43 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | <xmonadgood> "geekosaur I want to create a..." <- If you're using XMonad.Util.EZConfig, at least, you can define these in exactly the same way as normal keybindings |
| 06:28:49 | <Solid> | sounds like you want a GUI panel without a GUI dependency |
| 06:28:54 | <Solid> | probably going to be quite difficult to find |
| 06:29:06 | <Hash> | There are some that use xlib only |
| 06:30:20 | <Solid> | I reckon people are tired of writing stuff so low level when toolkits do it as well, but better |
| 06:30:54 | <Solid> | and, I mean, it's not like you're not going to have GTK and QT installed anyways |
| 06:31:10 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | Have you tried Tint2? Feels a bit hacky to use with XMonad but IIRC it might fit your requirements |
| 06:31:16 | <Hash> | Yes, but I don't want to have to use KDE panels and well I use KDE and hate GTK |
| 06:31:34 | <Hash> | Because I'd have to maintain a silly bugfix from KDE that makes it work with Xmonad |
| 06:31:46 | <Hash> | and if moving from Ubuntu LTS to opensuse tumbleweed |
| 06:32:00 | <Hash> | It will be hard to maintain and I'll have to patch a lot, as it's a rolling release. |
| 06:32:16 | <Hash> | KDE really screwed us Xmonad people over, man. |
| 06:32:18 | <Hash> | :( |
| 06:34:34 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | You also might want to look into jgmenu |
| 06:36:39 | <isaacthekind[m]> | also, do we have a crypto tracker. |
| 06:36:50 | <isaacthekind[m]> | like if i want a little ticker in my xmobar that gives me the current price of ADA |
| 06:37:05 | <Hash> | I do |
| 06:37:10 | <Hash> | han gon |
| 06:37:17 | <isaacthekind[m]> | yussss |
| 06:37:18 | <isaacthekind[m]> | thank you |
| 06:37:25 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i love this chat haha |
| 06:37:33 | <Hash> | https://i.imgur.com/jl6HcWU.png |
| 06:37:35 | <Hash> | like this? |
| 06:38:11 | <isaacthekind[m]> | that looks like it's showing your total amount or smth? |
| 06:38:26 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i was picturing something that can give me the current price in USD or ideally CAD |
| 06:38:55 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i like that you even added the symbol |
| 06:40:23 | <Hash> | cat bin/btcticker; #!/bin/bash\ncurl --silent --compressed https://api.bitcointicker.co/trades/coinbase/btcusd/60/ | jq 'reverse' | jq '.[0]["price"]' | sed 's/"//g'; |
| 06:40:38 | <Hash> | Put something like that wherever you want |
| 06:40:56 | <Hash> | Run Com "/home/stoned/bin/btcticker" [""] "btcticker" 300, |
| 06:41:00 | <Hash> | Then just run it in xmobar |
| 06:41:02 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ohhh |
| 06:41:02 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok wait can you clarify this |
| 06:41:05 | <isaacthekind[m]> | is the 0 quantity |
| 06:41:11 | <Hash> | I forgot. |
| 06:41:20 | <Hash> | No It's just whatever api you want t use |
| 06:41:28 | <Hash> | I use those guy, I reverse the shit and get the 0 |
| 06:41:29 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok, i'm going to try to get this set up, i just am tripping out about one thing here tho |
| 06:41:30 | <Hash> | meaning the latest |
| 06:41:39 | <Hash> | cuz their data was like, oldest, then something, If orgot. |
| 06:41:43 | <Hash> | I don't know I was high. |
| 06:41:58 | <isaacthekind[m]> | hahahah |
| 06:42:07 | <isaacthekind[m]> | cardano, cannabis, this guy is like me |
| 06:42:19 | <isaacthekind[m]> | next thing i know you'll say you're ripping a volcano with obsidian or smth |
| 06:42:23 | <isaacthekind[m]> | but yeah back to xmonad |
| 06:42:25 | isaacthekind[m] | uploaded an image: (3KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/vRhREWIdcwIegntLvDFYVXtG/image.png > |
| 06:42:40 | <isaacthekind[m]> | is that btc price there beside ada icon? |
| 06:42:55 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i'm just confused why the price is so high, ada is like 50 cents |
| 06:43:17 | <Hash> | \o/ |
| 06:43:41 | <Hash> | You're gonna have to find an api, query it with whatever, get your data, make sure yoru script/command works, then run it from xmobar |
| 06:44:11 | <Hash> | it reads it from stdin and puts it in the xmobar status bar thing |
| 06:44:26 | <isaacthekind[m]> | but my question is what that number is |
| 06:44:28 | <Hash> | your command has to echo out whtever you're wanting to display |
| 06:44:35 | <Hash> | I can't help you with the api man. |
| 06:44:45 | <Hash> | You're gonna have to figure oout yoru coin, your api how to use it. |
| 06:44:54 | <Hash> | I just use these guys for my bitcoin ticker |
| 06:45:12 | <isaacthekind[m]> | yeah i just got a bit confused, i see this api is for btc |
| 06:45:13 | <Hash> | 0 is the first element in the json arrayh |
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| 06:45:28 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i was tripped out by the btc price beside the ada symbol |
| 06:45:39 | <Hash> | Since when you get the json array, oldest items are at top, newest items at are bottom |
| 06:45:42 | <Hash> | by items I mean prices |
| 06:45:50 | <isaacthekind[m]> | yeah of course |
| 06:45:53 | <isaacthekind[m]> | makes sense |
| 06:45:54 | <Hash> | so its an arbitrary # of items |
| 06:45:58 | <Hash> | I didn't want to have to coutn and all that |
| 06:46:09 | <Hash> | so I just reverse it, so latest data is on top, and grab the 0th element |
| 06:46:12 | <Hash> | latest price |
| 06:46:23 | <isaacthekind[m]> | right |
| 06:46:38 | <isaacthekind[m]> | ok i'm gonna try to implement something like this, thank you! |
| 06:47:05 | <Hash> | Sure man |
| 06:47:25 | <Hash> | I'm just wasting time on stupid things. I'll just continue using KDE I guess. |
| 06:47:32 | <Hash> | For now* |
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| 06:48:05 | <isaacthekind[m]> | i refuse to return to kde |
| 06:48:12 | <Hash> | Not the desktop. |
| 06:48:20 | <Hash> | Just the panels. |
| 06:48:22 | <Hash> | They are nice. |
| 06:48:41 | <Hash> | Also, if I just load the Xmonad session and start kde apps or anything, they're not styled |
| 06:48:48 | <Hash> | all appears crazy and horrible. |
| 06:49:05 | <Hash> | Which is weird, because the settings are there, but dont' take effect unti you start kde services |
| 06:49:17 | <Hash> | so if you use kde apps outsdie kde, they'll pretty much look like crap |
| 06:49:20 | <Hash> | unless i'm wrong. |
| 06:50:59 | <Hash> | Mioght check out trinity desktop env. |
| 06:51:09 | <Hash> | kicker was my favorite panel ever, kde 3.5.10 |
| 06:52:14 | <Hash> | I'm going to try enlightenment w/ xmonad in a vm |
| 06:54:17 | <Hash> | https://www.bodhilinux.com/ this hasn't been updaed to 22 yet |
| 06:54:59 | <Hash> | Moksha is a continuation of the Enlightenment 17 desktop. but I wonder if like how the new enlightenment is differnent from e17 from moksha |
| 07:41:13 | <quarkQuark[m]111> | <Hash> "so if you use kde apps outsdie..." <- Does setting QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE help? https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Qt#Styles_in_Qt_5 |
| 07:45:47 | <Alok[m]> | Hello, I want to remove the border if only one window is open, how can I do that? |
| 07:45:47 | <Alok[m]> | https://batbin.me/stoppel here's my xmonad config |
| 07:51:00 | <Alok[m]> | > <@alok8bb:matrix.org> Hello, I want to remove the border if only one window is open, how can I do that? |
| 07:51:00 | <Alok[m]> | > https://batbin.me/stoppel here's my xmonad config |
| 07:51:00 | <Alok[m]> | adding `smartBorders` $ tiled ||| ..... |
| 07:51:00 | <Alok[m]> | is the right way? |
| 07:51:02 | <lambdabot> | <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’ |
| 07:51:02 | <lambdabot> | error: Variable not in scope: httpserror: |
| 07:51:02 | <lambdabot> | • Data constructor not in scope: (://) :: t0 -> (a0 -> c0) -> t |
| 07:51:02 | <lambdabot> | • Perhaps you meant variable ‘//’ (imported from Data.Array)error: Varia... |
| 07:52:16 | <Solid> | Alok[m]: yes |
| 07:53:10 | <Alok[m]> | Solid: And how about gaps? I would want same gaps around every window. I tried to set gaps yesterday but then bar's behavior broke. |
| 07:55:19 | <Solid> | broke in what way? |
| 07:56:55 | <Alok[m]> | Solid: When hiding bar, the windows overlapped it but bar didn't hide |
| 07:58:20 | <Solid> | "Hiding" the bar via the xmonad keybinding is just telling windows to ignore there's a bar; since gaps are "part of the window", this is to be expected |
| 07:58:50 | <Solid> | you can either also disable gaps when hiding the bar, or tell the bar itself to properly hide itself (afaik xmobar can do that via dbus) |
| 08:00:13 | <Alok[m]> | or just don't use gaps 😂 |
| 08:00:28 | <Solid> | or that, yes; waste of screen space anyways :) |
| 08:04:57 | <Alok[m]> | are there any default keybindings for resizing a floating window with keyboard? |
| 08:06:01 | <Solid> | I don't think so, no |
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| 12:58:56 | <xmonadtrack> | New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/742 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/742 |
| 12:58:56 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/742 * v0.17.0-215-gbcda2961: New module: XMonad.Layout.SideBorderDecoration (6 hours ago, 3 files, 130+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/bcda29610888 |
| 13:51:47 | <geekosaur> | re moving and resizing floating windows: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Actions-FloatKeys.html |
| 13:52:31 | <geekosaur> | Alok[m], ^ |
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| 21:42:41 | <isaacthekind[m]> | are there a plans to make xmonad compatible with wayland? |
| 21:50:54 | <geekosaur> | xmonad itself, or any other X11 window manager, can't be. there are vague plans for an xmonad-alike for wayland but none of us can write it because we don't know wayland |
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| 21:52:42 | <geekosaur> | in the meantime you can use sway, or if you're willing to accept the occasional crash see https://github.com/L-as/waymonad |
| 21:53:17 | <geekosaur> | (wayland window managers are compositor plugins, or must come with compositors to plug themselves into) |
| 22:03:25 | <isaacthekind[m]> | not for me personally, i'm just curious if there are plans to move. i'm under the impression that wayland has a lot of advantages over x11 |
| 22:05:31 | <geekosaur> | it also has a bunch of disadvantages though. it's crashy still, it still doesn't handle multiple monitors even as well as x11 does (even though it has the potential to do better), etc. |
| 22:06:49 | <geekosaur> | if an x11 component wigs out you can restart it. if something connected to the compositor wigs out your whole session is toast |
| 22:09:16 | <geekosaur> | it still handles the case of an internal standard res monitor and an external 4k monitor worse than x11, even though it should be better |
| 22:12:08 | <geekosaur> | red hat was forced by its customers to commit to x11 support through 2030 because they rejected wayland |
| 22:18:38 | <geekosaur> | anyway, it's on the list, there isn't a lot of rush for it though |
| 22:19:32 | <geekosaur> | we'll probably have to pay someone to write it given the compositor situation in wayland (that is, that we would have to provide our own and the compositor is effectively the equivalent of an X11 server) |
| 22:22:28 | <geekosaur> | the current waymonad uses sway's compositor, which is a poor fit and leads to it being unstable |
| 22:23:11 | <geekosaur> | especially since sway makes no promises about api/abi stability of wlroots for uses other than sway itself |
| 22:29:24 | <isaacthekind[m]> | hmm ok i didn't realize there were trade offs, i thought basically that wayland was just the new thing |
| 22:29:32 | <isaacthekind[m]> | good points |
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| 22:44:20 | <geekosaur> | personally I'm still waiting for RH to find itself between a rock and a hard place |
| 22:44:47 | <geekosaur> | its customers are still pissed that it forced them over to systemd when it wasn't stable |
| 22:45:05 | <geekosaur> | they're not sitting still for the same with wayland |
| 22:45:24 | <geekosaur> | but the gnome devs (who de facto are the wayland devs) keep trying to desupport x11 |
| 22:46:23 | <geekosaur> | I suspect they're going to lose some major customers before it gets through that they mean it |
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| 23:51:42 | <vreahli10> | Heya - I finished compiling xmonad a few hours ago, but after adding it to .xinitrc it runs, the process dies (somewhere), and Xorg stays running. Any ideas on troubleshooting or what to check? |
| 23:55:32 | <geekosaur[m]> | What does your .xinitrc look like? |
| 23:58:15 | <vreahli> | Currently: https://gist.github.com/vreahli/a89b54a6f343cca75636f4d75ca40a5c - ending with `exec xmonad` |
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