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| 00:50:33 | <[Leary]> | Re security and distributed binaries, nix's content-addressed derivations are supposed to make it a non-issue, but I'm not sure about the details. It seems like NixOS isn't ready to go content-addressed by default yet. |
| 01:08:31 | <[Leary]> | Though I'm confusing myself with that. Wouldn't you need to build the binary yourself to know what the correct hash is? I guess you still need an authority to tell you that much. |
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| 05:38:45 | <Solid> | Yeah accepting binaries from the place you accept the source code (or hash) from anyways seems like a non-issue |
| 05:39:08 | Solid | has had enough people pester him about nix that he has at least switched to it on his desktop at home |
| 05:39:21 | <Solid> | but the lack of documentation on literally anything makes me want to not dig too deep tbh |
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| 06:24:33 | <[Leary]> | Solid: Yeah, it has that problem. There are half a dozen ways to achieve anything you want to do, but often there's nowhere that actually lays them out or says what the modern option is. |
| 06:26:20 | <[Leary]> | Despite kinda being the local nix guy, I'm actually in a love-hate relationship with it. I love the ideas underneath it all, and I love that nix the cli tool and NixOS exist and work. But nix the language and nixpkgs are desperately wanting for some real types and some structure, respectively---not at all unrelated problems. |
| 06:28:21 | <[Leary]> | The documentation partially stems from that, in that fragments of the solution to any one problem are scattered in the belly of nixpkgs, not easily found or understood, difficult to document. |
| 06:48:25 | <Solid> | :/ |
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| 12:08:30 | <diep> | Hi, for some reason I fail to bind (using EZConfig) `<M-,>`. Is this normal? |
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| 12:09:12 | <diep> | When I try to use this keybind there is an error log `Prelude.head: empty list` |
| 12:09:38 | <diep> | not sure how to interpret this |
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| 12:32:51 | <geekosaur> | @tell diep that sounds like a bug in the EZConfig parser, but the correct sequence is "M-," without the brackets |
| 12:32:51 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
| 12:35:30 | geekosaur | tries to remember who rewrote the parser. Solid? |
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| 13:04:51 | <geekosaur> | @tell diep Brackets are used with keys that have long names, for example you could bind to "M-<Escape>". the list of such keys is in the XMonad.Util.EZConfig documentation |
| 13:04:51 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
| 13:06:45 | <geekosaur> | @tell diep maybe a better example is that "M-F1" would bind to the sequence `M-F`, `1` (which you probably can't type), whereas "M-<F1>" binds to the F1 key |
| 13:06:45 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
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| 13:45:02 | <Ehllie> | how does one configure xmonad to handle polkit authentication request popups? |
| 13:45:33 | <Ehllie> | i use 1password, and have it act as my ssh identity server |
| 13:46:28 | <geekosaur> | I have no special configuration for them, they just work. What's going wrong? |
| 13:46:48 | <Ehllie> | so whenever an app wants to use an ssh key, it asks the 1password socket, which then prompts me for a password, or at least it did on gnome |
| 13:47:36 | <Ehllie> | on xmonad i just get an authentication failiure |
| 13:47:45 | <geekosaur> | hm. I'm using the mate / gnnome 2 stuff because I run xmonad under mate |
| 13:47:56 | <Ehllie> | on xmonad i just get authentication failiure |
| 13:48:14 | <geekosaur> | you may need to run xmonad under some polkit agent, lemme check |
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| 13:49:48 | <geekosaur> | oy |
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| 13:50:01 | <geekosaur> | looks like you need to be running dbus |
| 13:50:41 | <Ehllie> | ah, i thought i had it enabled globally, but it might have only been in my gnome module |
| 13:51:41 | <geekosaur> | `exec dbus-launch xmonad` |
| 13:55:13 | <geekosaur> | I haven't tried 1password for linux, if you're running some agent before xmonad then you have to start dbus differently so both it and xmonad know about the dbus session |
| 13:55:48 | <Ehllie> | so should i put `exec dbus-launch xmonad` in my .xsession? |
| 13:56:57 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/XfC4PDrq |
| 13:58:15 | <geekosaur> | do either one or the other, it depends on whether you start anything else that needs dbus in your .xsession |
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| 14:01:30 | liskin | needs to run /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 explicitly |
| 14:02:08 | <Ehllie> | ok, switched back to xmonad to have it in front of me |
| 14:07:30 | <Ehllie> | also, is <Ctrl-\> bound to anything by default in xmonad? cause i can't use my toggle term keybind in neovim |
| 14:09:24 | <geekosaur> | all xmonad keybinds use whatever you've defined as modMask (default Alt, often changed to Super/Win key) |
| 14:13:06 | <Ehllie> | i've changed it to super, but beyond that and setting my default terminal to alacritty, i haven't done anything |
| 14:13:40 | <Ehllie> | i'm just trying to figure out which default could be clashing with it |
| 14:14:32 | <geekosaur> | does it work outside of xmonad? |
| 14:15:03 | <geekosaur> | (unless you're using it in graphical mode, I'd expect C-\ to cause problems because it's the default abort-with-core key) |
| 14:16:25 | <Ehllie> | it does work outside of xmonad |
| 14:16:52 | <Ehllie> | i'm not even running neovim through the terminal but via neovide |
| 14:17:33 | <Ehllie> | but the behaviour is the same when running neovim directly |
| 14:17:43 | <Ehllie> | the cursor just flashes for a second and nothing happens |
| 14:19:24 | <geekosaur> | fascinating. here it inserts it as a control character but it doesn't show until I press escape. I wonder what its default binding is |
| 14:19:54 | <geekosaur> | actually it shows if I press some other key also. |
| 14:20:51 | <Ehllie> | my xmonad config is literally just 11 lines rn https://pastebin.com/8weL0bJY |
| 14:21:30 | <geekosaur> | looks fine, shouldn't do anything with C-\ |
| 14:22:19 | <geekosaur> | have you verified that your nvim config file is being loaded? (I don't even know what that is these days, I still use .exrc because I'm ancient 🙂 |
| 14:22:47 | <Ehllie> | oh, it is. it's very custom and i'd know if it wasn't lol |
| 14:26:40 | <Ehllie> | https://imgur.com/a/m6aNlVG |
| 14:27:54 | <geekosaur> | goodness gracious, looks like it's trying to be vscode 🙂 |
| 14:29:19 | <Ehllie> | i have been using vscode for a while, and having a smooth transfer to neovim was the plan |
| 14:32:47 | <Ehllie> | and btw, entrypoint for neovim is usually $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/nvim/init.lua nowadays |
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| 14:51:22 | <geekosaur> | I still wish there were a way to ask the X server what clients have passive grabbed what keys |
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| 16:50:19 | <Solid> | geekosaur: yes I rewrote the EZConfig parser (but I wrote property tests for the old parser first, so hopefully nothing broke :) |
| 16:51:00 | <geekosaur> | so the old one would have also thrown an error from head? |
| 16:51:11 | <geekosaur> | [31 12:09:12] <diep> When I try to use this keybind there is an error log `Prelude.head: empty list` |
| 16:51:25 | <geekosaur> | from the incorrect keybinding "<M-,>" |
| 16:51:43 | <Solid> | let me double check |
| 16:54:36 | <Solid> | Mh, I don't get an exception at all with the new code |
| 16:55:12 | <geekosaur> | maybe they're still running 0.15/0.16 |
| 16:56:09 | <Solid> | maybe I fixed bugs \o/ |
| 16:56:47 | <geekosaur> | hopefully it produces a better error message for a special key not in the list |
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| 19:01:52 | <[Leary]> | Oh dear. My session log is full of <<loop>>. |
| 19:02:14 | <[Leary]> | Makes me rather glad ghc can catch those. >.> |
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