Logs on 2022-09-30 (liberachat/#xmonad)
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| 01:19:37 | <Linux> | use the noTaskbar |
| 01:20:29 | <geekosaur> | that doesn't hide the NSP workspace though |
| 01:20:50 | <Linux> | Oh you can hide the NSP workspace? |
| 01:20:52 | <Linux> | How? |
| 01:22:20 | <Linux> | I see |
| 01:22:43 | <Linux> | manageHook = manageDocks <+> myManageHook <+> namedScratchpadManageHook scratchpads <+> manageHook def <- I have like so |
| 01:22:52 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Hooks-StatusBar-PP.html#v:filterOutWsPP |
| 01:23:10 | <geekosaur> | but that's for xmobar, not for polybar |
| 01:23:30 | <geekosaur> | if it uses EWMH to get workspace information then you have to do something trickier |
| 01:23:35 | <Linux> | I see |
| 01:23:45 | <Linux> | I'd like to hid NSP on the KDE plasma panel I use |
| 01:23:51 | <Linux> | Any idea about that? |
| 01:24:11 | <Linux> | I also used dynamic log from years ago, and probably need to update to statusbar the one you linked |
| 01:24:11 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Util-WorkspaceCompare.html#v:filterOutWs |
| 01:24:48 | <geekosaur> | the docs tell you how to use it to filter NSP out of the EWMH workspaces, so polybar and plasma-panel won't see it |
| 01:24:55 | <Linux> | Ok I will try it |
| 01:25:05 | <Linux> | I don't know the language of haskell |
| 01:25:07 | <Linux> | :) |
| 01:25:26 | <geekosaur> | I'm not going to be up a whole lot longer though |
| 01:25:35 | <geekosaur> | maybe someone else can help |
| 01:25:37 | <Linux> | I'm not in a rush, I'll try it round, see what I can do |
| 01:25:48 | <Linux> | I will come back later when you guys are awake and have time |
| 01:25:49 | <geekosaur> | (my sleep monitor is already yelling at me because I'm not in bed yet) |
| 01:25:52 | <Linux> | Ok thanks man |
| 01:25:54 | <Linux> | I appreciate you |
| 01:40:14 | <Linux> | xmproc <- spawnPipe ("/usr/bin/xmobar ~/.xmobar/xmobarrc") <- am I still supposed to run xmobar like this? |
| 02:01:45 | <Linux> | Hello I have tried to update my xmonad/mobar config to .17 |
| 02:01:53 | <Linux> | https://bpa.st/IGWQ <- xmonad.hs |
| 02:01:59 | <Linux> | https://bpa.st/4ZQA xmobarrc |
| 02:02:11 | <Linux> | I get no errors, but also, I don't get xmobar anymore. It doesn't launch/run. |
| 02:02:20 | <Linux> | What am I doing wrong? |
| 02:02:59 | <Linux> | -- xmproc <- spawnPipe ("/usr/bin/xmobar ~/.xmobar/xmobarrc") <- I commented this out. |
| 02:03:24 | <Linux> | mySB = statusBarProp "xmobar" (pure def) I added this line 283 |
| 02:03:42 | <Linux> | line 288: xmonad . withSB mySB $ docks $ ewmhFullscreen . ewmh $ def <- I added mySB here |
| 02:04:10 | <Linux> | , logHook = myLogHook -- <+> myXmobarLogHook xmproc <- then I commented out the xmobarlog hook and xmproc |
| 02:04:37 | <Linux> | https://bpa.st/4ZQA#1L40 Run XMonadLog, in xmobarrc |
| 02:04:45 | <Linux> | -- Run StdinReader comment this out |
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| 02:04:52 | <Linux> | template = "%XMonadLog% load this in template |
| 02:05:14 | <Linux> | I did all the things they said, and I get no errors, but I get no bar. Am I still supposed to run the bar with Spawn? |
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| 02:15:28 | <Linux> | nm, my xmobar binary path was wrong |
| 02:15:38 | <Linux> | I build latest in stack and removed /usr/bin that came from ubuntu |
| 02:15:51 | <Linux> | xmproc <- spawnPipe ("/home/stoned/.local/bin/xmobar ~/.xmobar/xmobarrc") <- without spawnpip I can't get it |
| 02:15:55 | <Linux> | so please advise. |
| 02:23:26 | <Linux> | also the xmobar I build from stack, won't use my configured font |
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| 02:24:47 | <Linux> | xmobar from ubuntu respects my config. So maybe I didn't build it right? |
| 02:25:05 | <Linux> | back to using dynamiclog for the time being, until we can figure out statusbarpp stuff |
| 02:37:44 | Linux | is now known as HP-UX |
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| 09:42:18 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib alexandersokolow * v0.17.1-20-g9e55ae91: expose more messages in MouseResizableTile layout (16 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/9e55ae9184a5 |
| 09:42:18 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.1-21-ge15f2d17: Merge pull request #758 from alexandersokolow/master (4 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/e15f2d17e54d |
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| 17:01:03 | <geekosaur> | whoops! that's embarrassing |
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| 17:01:53 | <geekosaur> | was about to file a bug report against cabal for not doing a rebuild when I pulled the above change… went in to reproduce it, discovered I was on a dev branch instead of master… |
| 17:02:08 | <geekosaur> | (so I didn't actually get the change) |
| 17:05:27 | <geekosaur> | at least I discovered it before I filed the issue |
| 17:32:51 | <mekeor[m]> | geekosaur: relieved to see that even experienced experts like you, make silly little mistakes sometimes :) |
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| 23:25:24 | <HP-UX> | https://ia802309.us.archive.org/4/items/TheStumpWMExperience/TheStumpWMExperience.ogg |
| 23:25:32 | <HP-UX> | People have been trying to sell me on spatial navigation in stumpwm |
| 23:25:37 | <HP-UX> | Does Xmonad have anything similar? |
| 23:25:42 | <HP-UX> | https://demosthenes.org/tmp/StumpWMSpatialGroups.mp4 |
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| 23:30:46 | geekosaur | has sensory difficulties and as such will not be watching videos to find out |
| 23:33:46 | <mekeor[m]> | having skimmed the videos, i'd guess (!) that it's about selecting/focusing a certain window by using three numbers: one for the workspace; and two other for column and row (or coordinates, if you will) |
| 23:36:05 | <geekosaur> | sounds like something WindowNavigation could be adapted to do |
| 23:36:56 | <HP-UX> | Hmm |
| 23:37:39 | <HP-UX> | It's like, every 'workspace' is a 'desktop' in stump, and each desktop has arbitrarfy number of windows, arranged in a grid, and you can navigate to them using arrow keys, so you know which way is what app... apparently |
| 23:40:00 | <HP-UX> | XMonad.Actions.WindowNavigation : This module is experimental. You'll have better luck with the original. |
| 23:40:12 | <HP-UX> | Hmm. I wonder if it's gonna be okay to try |
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| 23:46:23 | <HP-UX> | So using the window navigation, how would you layout windows in a grid, full screen, to navigate using u/d/l/r keys |
| 23:46:32 | <HP-UX> | like |
| 23:46:45 | <HP-UX> | [] |
| 23:46:48 | <HP-UX> | [] [] [] |
| 23:47:13 | <HP-UX> | So if you'e on left, you have to go middle to go up, can't just go from left one to up, like that |
| 23:47:28 | <HP-UX> | that's one workspace, and in that workspace, windows are laid out like this in a grid |
| 23:47:40 | <HP-UX> | How is this possible? |
| 23:53:53 | <HP-UX> | There is an actions gridselect... |
| 23:54:02 | <HP-UX> | X.A.GridSeelct |
| 23:54:33 | <HP-UX> | Oh no that's not it. Doh. |
| 23:55:31 | <geekosaur> | X.L.Grid{,Variants}? |
| 23:57:30 | <HP-UX> | in a workspace, how can windows be laid out using xy grid like coordinates, like cener is [-1,0] [0,0] [1,0] |
| 23:58:01 | <HP-UX> | [0,-1] |
| 23:58:03 | <HP-UX> | [-1,0] [0,0] [1,0] |
| 23:58:09 | <HP-UX> | etc... |
| 23:58:54 | <HP-UX> | you can define how to layout windows like this in a workspace, and switch to them using left/right/arrow stuff |
| 23:59:34 | <HP-UX> | [-2,0] [-1,0] [0,0] [1,0] [2,0] ... so forth, if that makes sense. |
| 23:59:47 | <geekosaur> | I don't think we have a layout that works like that as such; most people want layouts that use as much of the screen space as possible, not leave lots of space in the corners |
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