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| 14:15:05 | <liskin> | How MuniHac btw? |
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| 14:15:20 | <liskin> | Solid: ^ |
| 14:15:28 | <liskin> | Oh and where mc47? |
| 14:17:16 | <geekosaur> | I feel like I need to move to somewhere in Europe just so I can attend a few of these things… |
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| 15:05:05 | <thyriaen> | Howdy friends - I have a strange behavior - if i run a 2 tabbed windows and a floating one on top: the moment i open the floating one the current tabbed window, whichever is selected gets "remembered" - when I now switch the tabbed window to something else and i give the floating window focus, the tabbed window in the background changes focus to whatever window was "remembered" |
| 15:05:55 | <geekosaur> | yes, that's typical for floats |
| 15:06:08 | <thyriaen> | can i prevent this from happening somehow ? |
| 15:06:24 | <geekosaur> | try XMonad.Hooks.RefocusLast |
| 15:08:17 | <thyriaen> | uff |
| 15:10:33 | <[Leary]> | Well, the description is a bit difficult to parse. Sounds like it could be the related but distinct `focusTracking` issue. |
| 15:10:43 | <thyriaen> | what does <> this do ? |
| 15:11:00 | <thyriaen> | what is the focusTracking issue ? |
| 15:11:09 | <geekosaur> | monoidal append |
| 15:11:43 | <thyriaen> | so when i want that my Loghook is refocusLastLogHook and it was previourlsy return () i just do refocusLastLogHook <> return () > |
| 15:11:45 | <thyriaen> | ? |
| 15:12:23 | <thyriaen> | [Leary], what issue are you referring too ? how can i explain my issue better? |
| 15:12:57 | <[Leary]> | It's where layouts that don't have focus don't know what window to present. Wrapping the layout or sublayout in `focusTracking` is a way to tell it to keep presenting the window/s like when it last had focus. |
| 15:14:26 | <thyriaen> | [Leary], seems like it would fix my issue |
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| 15:16:30 | <thyriaen> | i don't really understand how to use it, reading the documentation |
| 15:18:12 | <thyriaen> | myLayout = focusTracking myOldLayout ? |
| 15:19:52 | <thyriaen> | perfect, it works thanks :p |
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| 16:21:18 | <liskin> | geekosaur: would you need a visa if you wanted to move permanently? |
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| 16:24:26 | <liskin> | Also moving somewhere far and losing all your support network of friends and relatives is hard even if your physical and mental health is fine. It's a nightmare if not. |
| 16:35:33 | <geekosaur> | yeh. and yes, I'd need to get a visa |
| 16:36:10 | <geekosaur> | that said, between being autistic and most of my relatives being gone I, uh, have a very small support network to start with |
| 16:36:15 | <geekosaur> | would lose my sister though |
| 16:37:03 | <geekosaur> | and I don't really see any country being interested in an old autistic guy with sensory processing issues (I have in fact been stuck in the dark for the past 2 days because bright light is doing a number on my brain) |
| 16:38:33 | <geekosaur> | conversely, to the extent I have friends they're all on IRC so locations don't really matter 🙂 |
| 16:45:32 | <mikevan[m]> | j |
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| 16:50:23 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, perfect - where do you live ? |
| 16:50:34 | <geekosaur> | akron, ohio |
| 16:50:55 | <thyriaen> | oki |
| 16:51:04 | <geekosaur> | if you do a web search you can even get my street address, because I have a radio license and the license database is by law public information |
| 16:51:24 | <geekosaur> | might even have my phone number in it |
| 16:51:35 | <thyriaen> | the web knows everything |
| 16:54:18 | <geekosaur> | (and you can get my real name from /whois, from linked in, and probably from dreamwidth) |
| 16:59:09 | <thyriaen> | what's dreamwidth ? |
| 17:01:20 | <geekosaur> | https://www.dreamwidth.org/ |
| 17:01:41 | <geekosaur> | social networking site, 90s variety |
| 17:03:17 | <thyriaen> | gives off a kinda debian vibe |
| 17:03:29 | <geekosaur> | that's just the logo 🙂 |
| 17:03:48 | <geekosaur> | I admit I was fairly amused when debian adopted much the same logo |
| 17:04:04 | <geekosaur> | (yes, dw came first with the spiral logo) |
| 17:05:26 | <geekosaur> | although I don't recall if they'd opened the public beta by that point |
| 17:07:17 | <geekosaur> | not sure how I ended up doing two private betas for social networking sites when I'm autistic; I was also in on the final private beta for what became AOL (but then was AppleLink Personal Edition) |
| 17:40:10 | <liskin> | geekosaur: when were you diagnosed? |
| 17:40:47 | <liskin> | I don't have my diagnosis yet but I'm becoming more and more certain that an awful lot of things could be explained by one |
| 17:41:18 | <liskin> | and many of those symptoms had viable workarounds when I was a kid or a uni student |
| 17:41:53 | <liskin> | and those that didn't have workarounds were tolerated by my peers because I was high functioning and smart/valuable/useful enough |
| 17:42:09 | <geekosaur> | sounds familiar. I realized I was autistic when the Asperger paper came to light in the mid 90s and I recognized myself in it |
| 17:42:22 | <geekosaur> | but I was only formally diagnosed 2 years ago |
| 17:42:32 | <liskin> | now without that network of people, in a different culture and having to spend energy on all the adulting stuff, it's a different story |
| 17:43:01 | <geekosaur> | it also gets harder as you get older, I've found |
| 17:43:17 | <geekosaur> | like I have less energy to spend on things other people take for granted |
| 17:43:33 | <geekosaur> | (look up "spoon theory" sometime) |
| 17:43:42 | <liskin> | anyway, my point was meant to be that being part of a social networking private beta isn't that weird despite being autistic |
| 17:44:06 | <liskin> | demography of early social networks was wildly different than these days |
| 17:48:47 | <liskin> | spoon theory looks like a concept that I've been intuitively aware of for a while |
| 17:50:02 | <liskin> | I've actually been trying to prioritise using money to make someone else handle some of those daily tasks, but it looks like it's not as easy as I thought |
| 17:50:52 | <liskin> | there's still more stuff that I need to do on a daily basis than I had to when I was a uni student and had parents |
| 17:51:20 | <liskin> | yet the amount of money it costs me is absurd |
| 17:52:41 | <geekosaur> | yep 😞 |
| 17:55:00 | <liskin> | (but then we made the somewhat silly choice of moving to an extremely high-cost-of-living location because it's a necessary step in my wife's career) |
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| 21:54:56 | <HP-UX> | Asperger's here. |
| 21:56:01 | <HP-UX> | I think the latest psychiatrist said, and had some testing done, and yeah. Highly functional autist apparently. But still not without behavioral inabilities and disabilities in processing various input. |
| 21:56:44 | <HP-UX> | My entire life has been agonizing due to that inability to socialize, know what not to say, when to say, how to say, with what sort of diction, connotation, idiomatic usage... |
| 21:56:53 | <HP-UX> | \o/ |
| 21:57:00 | <HP-UX> | A computer will never make fun of you. |
| 21:57:06 | <HP-UX> | A computer will never harass you. |
| 21:57:10 | <HP-UX> | A computer will never judge you. |
| 21:57:27 | <HP-UX> | If the computer breaks or doesn't do what I want, it's not because it doesn't like me... |
| 21:57:34 | <HP-UX> | It's beacuse I did something wrong. |
| 21:57:49 | <HP-UX> | People are mean, man. People are so mean. |
| 21:57:52 | <HP-UX> | \o/ |
| 22:00:00 | <HP-UX> | 1) I can't understand why anyone wants to be my friend or talk to me. |
| 22:00:30 | <HP-UX> | 2) I have no idea and I cannot figure out what anyone is intending when they come to me with anything. I literally almost always misunderstand their intentions. |
| 22:00:46 | <HP-UX> | I cannot pick up on verbal or linguistic clues in conversation. I have to be explicity told what is happening. |
| 22:01:17 | <HP-UX> | People have called me anti social, rude, obnoxious, put me down, cursed at me, even hit me and kick me. |
| 22:01:35 | <HP-UX> | \o/ doesn't matter. One day I will die and all this will be over. |
| 22:01:37 | <HP-UX> | Just waiting... |
| 22:04:16 | HP-UX | wipes his tears away. |
| 22:04:30 | <HP-UX> | Alright, I got work to do. Sorry for my nonsense. I don't know what to do. |
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