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| 00:04:29 | <AskYourself[m]> | Ahh ok. |
| 00:04:37 | <AskYourself[m]> | Is there a way to pipe that to a file. |
| 00:04:46 | <AskYourself[m]> | I can see some output there that deff has to do with this. |
| 00:05:02 | <AskYourself[m]> | But it seems like since the journal is (always?) being written to, it can't be piped in the normal way. |
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| 00:05:40 | <geekosaur> | use script? |
| 00:06:03 | <geekosaur> | although journalctl probably has some option |
| 00:06:17 | geekosaur | doesn't really know journalctl |
| 00:07:26 | <AskYourself[m]> | Hmm ok, I'll see if I can find the option. |
| 00:07:39 | <[Leary]> | You can do e.g. `journalctl -b0 | tail -n 100 > filename` to get the last 100 lines of the current boot log. |
| 00:10:01 | AskYourself[m] | posted a file: (9KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/VwVcxkKvlJMIVyIXqEekocee/journal.txt > |
| 00:10:04 | <AskYourself[m]> | There we go. |
| 00:10:06 | <AskYourself[m]> | Thx. |
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| 00:16:51 | <geekosaur> | hrm. settings window is getting moved, dunno if it's centered but at least its y position changes to be much higher on the screen |
| 00:18:33 | <AskYourself[m]> | It still is in the same place when I look at it. |
| 00:19:25 | <geekosaur> | you would not see it in the position it originally requested, unless steam moves it back there after doCenterFloat moves it |
| 00:21:50 | <geekosaur> | it requests to be placed at (2927,618). doCenterFloat places it at (2510,247) |
| 00:22:36 | <geekosaur> | my guess is that steam moves it back to the position it originally requested, which places it partially offscreen |
| 00:25:40 | <AskYourself[m]> | Does that mean there's no workaround? |
| 00:26:12 | <geekosaur> | convince steam to move it elsewhere. if you try to work around it from within xmonad you may just start an infinite loop of repositionings |
| 00:26:32 | <geekosaur> | some apps are just badly behaved |
| 00:29:41 | <AskYourself[m]> | Hmm. |
| 00:29:47 | <AskYourself[m]> | I'll see if there is anything in settings. |
| 00:29:57 | <AskYourself[m]> | Oh wait. |
| 00:30:02 | <AskYourself[m]> | 🤦♂️ |
| 00:30:35 | <geekosaur> | mod-left mouse button to move it, since it's floating anyway? |
| 00:30:48 | <geekosaur> | or mod-right mouse button to resize, or both |
| 00:32:24 | <geekosaur> | it might even remember where you move/resize it to so this won't happen next time |
| 00:33:07 | <AskYourself[m]> | None of those commands have any effect. |
| 00:33:22 | <AskYourself[m]> | Ohh weird. |
| 00:33:29 | <geekosaur> | huh? |
| 00:33:33 | <AskYourself[m]> | It notices them only if I use the real mod, not my supermod. |
| 00:33:48 | <AskYourself[m]> | I think I don't have the supertab set up to work with mouse. |
| 00:33:53 | <AskYourself[m]> | So I thought it wasn't working. |
| 00:33:59 | <AskYourself[m]> | Using the original key works. |
| 00:36:57 | <AskYourself[m]> | I am so f*** confused right now. |
| 00:37:07 | <AskYourself[m]> | I just gave up and deleted everything. |
| 00:37:10 | <AskYourself[m]> | Now it centers it everytime.. |
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| 12:25:44 | <kalj> | I am trying to set up building my local xmonad config using ghcup, but I am lost. Should I use cabal-install, stack, or something else? |
| 12:26:31 | <geekosaur> | up to you. the tutorial will guide you through both cabal and stack |
| 12:27:00 | <geekosaur> | https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html |
| 12:27:42 | <geekosaur> | most eople find stack a bi8t easier. I use cabal, but in a fully cabalized setup (not covered by the tutorial) so HLS will work |
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| 12:28:50 | <kalj> | Yeah, I looked in the tutorial. It assumes I have cloned xmonad and xmonad-contrib repos. I was hoping to be able to install them using some package manager. |
| 12:28:50 | <kalj> | I did cabal install --libs xmonad xmonad-contrib, but now xmonad --recompile doesn't find them. |
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| 12:29:48 | <geekosaur> | did you run it in your xmonad directory? |
| 12:30:09 | <geekosaur> | if not then the environment file got written to the wrong place and won't be used |
| 12:30:12 | <kalj> | The "cabal install ..." command? |
| 12:30:16 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 12:30:58 | <kalj> | okay, but the installed libraries end up in ~/.cabal/... right? So how can I set up an env file_ |
| 12:31:00 | <kalj> | ? |
| 12:32:32 | <geekosaur> | if you run it from your home directoty then you probably have a ~/.ghc.environment.(whatever) in your home dir |
| 12:32:41 | <geekosaur> | created by the --lib option |
| 12:32:51 | <geekosaur> | you could try moving that to your xmonad directory |
| 12:33:28 | <kalj> | Okay ,I think I have an environment file in the right place now. |
| 12:33:48 | <kalj> | And it does accept "import XMonad" now! |
| 12:34:28 | <kalj> | But now it can't find Control.Monad.Cont from mtl. How do I fix that? |
| 12:34:50 | <kalj> | I guess I need to add it somehow to the env file? |
| 12:35:04 | <geekosaur> | cabal install --lib mtl |
| 12:35:26 | <geekosaur> | which won';t reinstall it but should add a reference to the store copy to the environment file |
| 12:35:56 | <geekosaur> | this kind of thing is why users often find stack easier, they can just create a stack.yaml |
| 12:36:14 | <geekosaur> | that said, I'm afraid to ask what you;re doing that needs Cont in your xmonad.hs 🙂 |
| 12:38:50 | <kalj> | It's for this thing: https://github.com/kalj/dotfiles/blob/master/.xmonad/lib/MaxWidth.hs |
| 12:40:04 | <kalj> | It seems "cabal install --lib mtl" does not touch the environment file? |
| 12:40:45 | <geekosaur> | if it's run in the xmonad dir it should |
| 12:51:05 | <kalj> | Well, it doesn't for me :) |
| 12:57:52 | <kalj> | Ah, it seemed I needed to specify --package-env=$HOME/.xmonad/ |
| 13:01:09 | <Solid> | [Leary]: sounds good :) I've been pretty wrecked with work recently and wanted to get back into the swing of things anyways, so that sounds like a good oportunity |
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| 13:16:21 | <[Leary]> | Solid: Sweet---the bulk are already in a state to post, more or less, so I should be putting them up some time tomorrow. :] |
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| 17:58:14 | <geekosaur> | @tell kalj oh sorry, right. in that case you now have a global environment file which can break things. remove ~/.ghc/*/environments/default |
| 17:58:14 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
| 18:03:39 | <AskYourself[m]> | Hey, so ChaoticMist has been helping me get Taffybar running. And during debugging I had xmobar running in the background. If you look at line 11, that was **not** commented out during debugging:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/e0044142ab2c7f0f0c634bb427e3d9819d422a27>) |
| 18:03:52 | <AskYourself[m]> | * Hey, so ChaoticMist has been helping me get Taffybar running. And during debugging I had xmobar running in the background. If you look at line 13, that was **not** commented out during debugging:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/129df447f3a54253151f03396979ad7965e4a603>) |
| 18:07:46 | <geekosaur> | do you have avoidStruts in your layoutHook? |
| 18:11:13 | <geekosaur> | you may also want to add the toggle-struts keybinding manually since you're not using withEasySB any more |
| 18:11:43 | <AskYourself[m]> | Right ok. |
| 18:11:45 | <AskYourself[m]> | Trying. |
| 18:12:21 | <AskYourself[m]> | Ok that fixed it, and yes I'll add the toggle. |
| 18:12:24 | <AskYourself[m]> | Tyvm. |
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| 18:21:46 | <JulioBorjaBarra[> | hi all! I'm trying to use trayer with xmobar, but xmobar is covering it. I tried lowerOnStart but it seems not to be working. This is xmobar 0.45. I also noticed the 'centering' (using alignSep) is not working properly. The item in the middle moves left and right depending on the length of the content in the left. Do you know how can I solve either problem? My configuration is: http://ix.io/4ix0 |
| 18:23:35 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Util-Hacks.html#v:trayerAboveXmobarEventHook |
| 18:23:56 | <geekosaur> | I can't help with the centering part, though |
| 18:33:21 | <JulioBorjaBarra[> | thank you! |
| 18:34:18 | <JulioBorjaBarra[> | I don't know what happened with the centering. I'm tempted to report it since I discovered this after an update (would have to check which version I had before) and I made no changes to my config. |
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| 19:59:35 | <AskYourself[m]> | Does it make any sense that I would set an manage hook up, and that this could somehow alter a program such that even when the hook is deleted, some kind of behaviour from the hook remains? |
| 19:59:52 | <AskYourself[m]> | I think something like this happened with the Steam stuff I was going on about the other day. |
| 20:00:24 | <AskYourself[m]> | It seems like steam "remembers" to always fill the screen. |
| 20:09:29 | <geekosaur> | some apps remember window positions, yes. I told you that yesterday and even pointed to an example (the update dialog on ubuntu) |
| 20:09:56 | <geekosaur> | \positions and sizes |
| 20:10:12 | <AskYourself[m]> | I know, I realized that and then deleted my message. Sorry for double post. |
| 20:10:14 | <AskYourself[m]> | My bad. |
| 20:41:39 | <geekosaur> | I should probably mention that IRC has no way to delete messages; once they're sent, they're immutable. So I didn't see the deletion, although I just did on my phone where I run Element |
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| 23:19:44 | <HB[m]> | Hi |
| 23:20:06 | <geekosaur> | hi |
| 23:20:16 | <HB[m]> | How's it going? Been a while. |
| 23:20:47 | <HB[m]> | I left IRC. It's me Hash. I'm on Matrix now. I found libera.irc to be very toxic. Far more than freenode. I was on freenode for 19 years. |
| 23:21:11 | <HB[m]> | Anyway, back now! Hope all you guys are doing well. |
| 23:21:53 | <HB[m]> | This is the matrix channel right? I don't want to be connected to IRC at all. I'm using element.io |
| 23:22:22 | <geekosaur> | the matrix channel gateways to IRC |
| 23:22:29 | <HB[m]> | Ok np. |
| 23:22:41 | <HB[m]> | I just don't want to connect to IRC anymore, but the bridge is fine. |
| 23:23:22 | <HB[m]> | Hmm. I should update the patches for KDE for 22.10. |
| 23:23:58 | <HB[m]> | That's been out for a couple of months now and plasma-framework updated again, rendering KDE menus/panels in Xmonad not usable. |
| 23:24:19 | <HB[m]> | * patches for Kubuntu/KDE for |
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