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| 08:08:01 | <HB[m]> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1352692309 |
| 08:08:31 | <HB[m]> | * https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1352692309 Latest Patch for Xmonad Compatibility for KDE Plasma 5.98 (as well as in Kubuntu 22.10) |
| 08:16:10 | <HB[m]> | s/1352692309/1352701747 Latest Patch for Xmonad Compatibility for KDE Plasma 5.98 (as well as in Kubuntu 22.10)/ |
| 08:17:21 | <HB[m]> | I have just tested the patch in a virtual machine, it builds, Xmonad and KDE panels/menus work in 22.10 Kubuntu and plasma-framework 5.98. |
| 08:17:21 | <HB[m]> | Enjoy. |
| 08:20:01 | <HB[m]> | I'm not sure if I created the patch properly... Uhmm. I'm tired. 1AM |
| 08:24:05 | <thyriaen> | can i just use my "normal" xmonad config for my standalone xmonad as a config for kde-xmonad or will something break and I should start fresh ? |
| 08:27:42 | HB[m] | posted a file: (16KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/mozilla.org/ea337488c5e010346a438d81f77eee9fe4b944c4/xmonad.hs > |
| 08:28:42 | <HB[m]> | Here's my Xmonad config. I do not know if `kde-xmonad` is some special software as I have not heard of it. |
| 08:28:42 | <HB[m]> | But you would load the KDE helper module, and in your env, `export KDEWM=xmonad` |
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| 08:36:37 | <HB[m]> | This config is for 0.17 Xmonad so it's only going to work there and will fail in other versions I think. |
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| 12:03:34 | <thyriaen> | HB[m], i just mean running xmonad with kde |
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| 14:34:03 | <geekosaur> | thyriaen, you need a patch for plasma (a KDE component) for it to work properly with xmonad |
| 14:34:27 | <geekosaur> | otherwise, see XMonad.Config.KDE.kde4Config for some integrations with KDE |
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| 15:21:35 | <Guest27> | Is this the right place to ask questions/get help? I couldnt find an official forum |
| 15:21:54 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 15:23:28 | <Guest27> | M-q is not showing the standard xorg-message error messages, while running `xmonad --recompile` in a console does. Any ideas where to look for clues why it does that? |
| 15:24:58 | <Jade[m]> | it has never worked for me |
| 15:25:01 | <Jade[m]> | haha |
| 15:25:31 | <geekosaur> | sounds like a PATH problem, except I'd expect xmessage to be in /usr/bin |
| 15:26:06 | <geekosaur> | (the PATH you have in a terminal is not the same as the PATH display managers give to window managers / session managers) |
| 15:31:52 | <Guest27> | I will look into that, I had the problem before and had to include a PATH export to the cabal directory in my .zprofile. Guess I didnt learn anything :D |
| 15:33:13 | <geekosaur> | I hook X session startup to set my PATH and a few other things there (/etc/X11/Xsession.d/10profile) |
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| 17:47:43 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, how do i patch kde ? |
| 17:48:55 | <thyriaen> | i mean which komponent and how to do it ? ( but otherwise i can use my normal xmonad config or should i start fresh ? ) |
| 17:55:21 | <geekosaur> | you probably want to talk to HB[m]; all I know about it is https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174 |
| 17:55:51 | <geekosaur> | I haven't used KDE with xmonad in some 10 years (KDE3 was the latest version back then 🙂 |
| 18:02:57 | <thyriaen> | oki thanks |
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| 18:32:57 | <HB[m]> | let me know which versino of kubuntu you're using and I can even build the packages for you for amd64 |
| 18:33:09 | <HB[m]> | But first try the instructions in the link from geekosaur |
| 18:38:24 | <thyriaen> | HB[m], you mean https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174 ? |
| 18:38:37 | <HB[m]> | 👍️ |
| 18:39:08 | <HB[m]> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 Directions are in this post. |
| 18:39:13 | <HB[m]> | It's not trivial to do this if you're new/noob. |
| 18:39:40 | <HB[m]> | Which version of Kubuntu will you use? 22.04? Or 22.10? |
| 18:39:50 | <HB[m]> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 Use this for 22.04 |
| 18:39:53 | <thyriaen> | provided by fedora 37 |
| 18:39:57 | <HB[m]> | * https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 Use this for 22.04 |
| 18:39:57 | <HB[m]> | LTS |
| 18:40:59 | <HB[m]> | I can't build packages |
| 18:41:00 | <HB[m]> | \ for Fedora 37 as I don't use it. Follow their dolcs on how to modify package source and rebuild, and use my patch for the proper version of plasma. |
| 18:41:04 | <thyriaen> | is there no repository with binary packages provided for xmonad ? or is kde simply not supported ? |
| 18:41:18 | <HB[m]> | KDE is supported by Xmonad |
| 18:41:25 | <HB[m]> | Xmonad is not supported by KDE |
| 18:41:28 | <thyriaen> | :p |
| 18:41:31 | <thyriaen> | i understand |
| 18:41:33 | <HB[m]> | KDE devs don't care about us ☹️ |
| 18:41:51 | <thyriaen> | which is good for me |
| 18:42:03 | <thyriaen> | as i will not attempt to switch from xmonad to kde+xmonad :p |
| 18:42:08 | <HB[m]> | s/\// |
| 18:42:11 | <HB[m]> | s/\//, s/dolcs/docs/ |
| 18:42:48 | <HB[m]> | I only use KDE panel with Xmonad, and some KDE apps as I dislike GTK and try to avoid it. |
| 18:42:49 | <thyriaen> | i think it will be too much of a headache to change source and rebuild |
| 18:43:11 | <thyriaen> | and stuff will break / when i upgrade and so on |
| 18:44:55 | <HB[m]> | 1) Get RPM plasma-framework package source in Fedora |
| 18:44:55 | <HB[m]> | 2) Edit source (apply my patch) |
| 18:44:55 | <HB[m]> | 3) Build package |
| 18:44:55 | <HB[m]> | https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/RebuildSRPM if interested also ask in #fedora on Matrox/IRC |
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| 19:21:08 | <thyriaen> | HB[m], is noone maintaining a prepacked prebuild for the likes of me who are too lazy to do it ? |
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| 21:35:40 | <qroolen> | someone can point what i am doing wrong by trying to spawn an application at N workspace? https://bit.ly/3FyLOaV |
| 21:35:57 | <qroolen> | it always starts on the focused workspace :| |
| 21:36:35 | <qroolen> | line 16 and 19 my logic is |
| 21:42:50 | <geekosaur> | does the splash window show up on the correct workspace? I suspect it's the one that manageSpawn is handling |
| 21:43:26 | <geekosaur> | alos, the way you wrote that, the setDefaultCursor is being overwritten; you should use <> instead of a second record update |
| 21:43:38 | <geekosaur> | (but that's mostly unrelated) |
| 21:44:42 | <geekosaur> | try running `"gimp --no-splash"`, in short |
| 21:47:09 | <qroolen> | <3 |
| 21:47:19 | <qroolen> | --no-splash made it work, thanks |
| 21:47:48 | <qroolen> | and what do you mean using <> on setDefaultCursor? |
| 21:47:53 | <geekosaur> | xmonad isn't magic;p the splash screen gets moved, then manageSpawn forgets about it and won't move the real window |
| 21:48:08 | <geekosaur> | look at line 15 vs. line 19 |
| 21:48:58 | <geekosaur> | first you set `startupHook` to `setDefaultCursor xC_cross`, then you overwrite it with `spawnOn "7" "gimp"` |
| 21:50:00 | <geekosaur> | if you want it to do both, remove lines 18-20 and change line 15 to: ` , startupHook = setDefaultCursor xC_cross <> spawnOn "7" "gimp --no-splash"` |
| 21:52:33 | <qroolen> | super! thanks for that |
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| 22:05:17 | <qroolen> | there is something that i can use to start an app when i focus on a workspace? |
| 22:07:29 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Actions-DynamicProjects.html or https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Actions-TopicSpace.html |
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| 22:24:32 | <qroolen> | :) |
| 23:34:58 | <HB[m]> | I'll try to install a fedora 37 VM and see if I can build the package for you. |
| 23:47:14 | <qroolen> | me? |
| 23:48:09 | <qroolen> | idk how long i last on IRC without being disconnected, but if it is for me, just do not bother ;] |
| 23:48:17 | <geekosaur> | thyriaen, who seems to have left |
| 23:48:41 | <qroolen> | ah ok :D |
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