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| 13:44:15 | <T_X> | hi, I've used lightdm + xmonad so far. I wanted to install a few other window managers in parallel. while doing so I pulled in the ibus-daemon dependency somehow. does anyone know how I could suppress it from starting when logging in with Xmonad? |
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| 13:44:41 | <T_X> | it messes up my keyboard configuration |
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| 13:45:42 | <T_X> | "systemctl --user {stop,disable} org.freedesktop.IBus.session.{generic,GNOME}.service" does not seem to help |
| 13:46:04 | <T_X> | the ibus-daemon is started with user rights on login |
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| 14:32:31 | <T_X> | hm, I uninstalled the "ibus" Debian package now. looks like it got pulled in through an automatic "recommends" and not "depends". |
| 14:46:14 | <T_X> | another very interesting issue I found with Xmonad on this new Thinkpad T14s Gen3 AMD (integrated Rembrandt Radeon 680M GPU): 3D applications only work fine with VSync on |
| 14:47:19 | <T_X> | only if vsync is on or if the window is not fullscreen and floating with another window open, then it gets rendered fine |
| 14:48:02 | <T_X> | otherwise I have the funny effect that nothing is rendered. and when I move the mouse, only the vertical lines around this mouse pointer are refreshed :D |
| 14:48:32 | <T_X> | only happens on Xmonad though. with a Mate desktop I couldn't reproduce these issues |
| 14:49:15 | <geekosaur> | mate does video configuration on startup and may have a list of video cards that need special treatment |
| 14:50:34 | <geekosaur> | this is one of the reasons people run desktop environments |
| 14:50:45 | <geekosaur> | they deal with all this stuff for you |
| 14:50:52 | <T_X> | I'm tending to report this as an issue to the xserver-xorg-video-radeon or firmware-amd-graphics package. (I'm using Debian Sid) |
| 14:51:06 | <T_X> | ah, okay. is there another window manager interesting to try? |
| 14:51:20 | <geekosaur> | (and yes, also sometimes you see this because they don't test with window borders) |
| 14:51:33 | <geekosaur> | see if you can repro with i3 or dwm? |
| 14:51:46 | <T_X> | kk, will try |
| 14:53:11 | <geekosaur> | if both have the problem then matre is configuring around it |
| 14:53:29 | <geekosaur> | if i3 works but dwm doesn't then it's probably a video driver bug with window borders |
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| 15:01:52 | <deebo> | mate is one of the few left that just works with `xmonad --replace` on startup, recommend using it if your not into tinkering too much :) |
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| 15:20:37 | <T_X> | oh, this is interesting: xmonad, i3, dwm, Gnome (with X11) -> don't work. Gnome (with Wayland) or Mate -> works. Mate with "xmonad --replace" -> does not work |
| 15:22:33 | <geekosaur> | weird. I'd say definitely driver in that case |
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| 15:25:26 | <T_X> | yes, I think so too. especially as I had bascially the same Debian Sid, including all configs running fine on an older laptop (Thinkpad T480s -> Intel CPU+iGPU) |
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| 15:54:30 | <T_X> | I opened a bug repor there now: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1028549. let's see if anyone has an idea there |
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