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| 07:41:54 | <xmonadtrack> | New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/795 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/795 |
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| 19:28:39 | <liskin> | hm, a fontconfig update broke xft fonts in uxvt completely, lol |
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| 19:29:26 | <liskin> | everything falls back to -misc-fixed, and it took me a couple weeks to notice :-D |
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| 19:38:21 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Yecine Megdiche {Tony Zorman} * v0.17.1-123-g6caba97b: X.H.StatusBar: Added startAllStatusBars (12 hours ago, 2 files, 10+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/6caba97b34a2 |
| 19:38:23 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.1-124-g339dbbf2: Merge pull request #795 from TheMC47/feat/start-sbs (3 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/339dbbf2fd95 |
| 20:00:16 | <Solid> | liskin: can't notice broken fonts if you can't read them anyways :D |
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| 23:00:26 | <georgesboris[m]> | hello folks :) I'm a nix+xmonad+linux noob -- but everything was working correctly until I decided to plug in an additional monitor with a different resolution (don't know if that is important or not tbh) |
| 23:01:07 | <georgesboris[m]> | my xmonad is getting reeeally funky when I try to make things work. I think it is a mix of not wrapping my head around xmonad's multiple monitors logic yet but also something wrong with my setup. |
| 23:01:39 | <georgesboris[m]> | I was wondering if someone was using a similar set up that could possibly share some light? :) |
| 23:01:39 | <georgesboris[m]> | s/nix/nixos/ |
| 23:02:14 | <georgesboris[m]> | for instance, even when I do make my second monitor "useful", xmonad renders the background on top of some windows when I'm focusing on the other monitor. it is just really confusing. |
| 23:02:33 | <geekosaur> | xmonad should handle it about as well as X11 can, although it also depends on video driver |
| 23:02:47 | <geekosaur> | and something like that sounds like video driver (or compositor) |
| 23:02:50 | <georgesboris[m]> | I'm researching stuff about xrandr, autorandr, xmonad, arandr, ... it is a bit too much 😅 |
| 23:03:09 | <geekosaur> | hm, actually that'd be really weird for a compositor too |
| 23:03:10 | <georgesboris[m]> | as I'm using picom |
| 23:03:11 | <georgesboris[m]> | oh... compositor might be something |
| 23:03:40 | <geekosaur> | if you kill it, do things improve? (I was actually about to sugggest running one to see if it helped) |
| 23:04:09 | <georgesboris[m]> | however, I also think my xrandr setup by itself is just not properly set... which might be causing all of this. but just using arandr doesn't solve things as well... seems like the different resolutions are not dealt with very well. |
| 23:04:16 | <georgesboris[m]> | kill the compositor you mean? |
| 23:04:38 | <geekosaur> | I personally have had weirrdness like that when connecting a monitor while X was running, but it's entirely independent of window manager or compositor in my case, it's something about the video driver and/or Intel video |
| 23:04:48 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 23:05:17 | <georgesboris[m]> | yeah... didn't help. |
| 23:05:34 | <georgesboris[m]> | do you also use nixos? |
| 23:06:00 | <geekosaur> | nope, debian |
| 23:06:05 | <geekosaur> | er, ubuntu |
| 23:06:10 | <georgesboris[m]> | I feel like the whole declarative + immutable setup doesn't help either in this case. as things might be running in an unexpected order and I'm trying not to rely on temporary system state. |
| 23:08:33 | <geekosaur> | order shouldn't matter aside from the X server needing to be running before you start a window manager, compositor, etc. |
| 23:08:48 | <geekosaur> | but they'd just error out in that case, not draw strangely |
| 23:11:33 | <georgesboris[m]> | when you specify different resolutions using xrandr do you need to match the different resolutions to the same virtual screen or does it handle that automatically? for instance having a 1440p to the side of a 1080p monitor |
| 23:11:52 | <georgesboris[m]> | sorry for the off-topic direction 😅 but I feel this might be related. |
| 23:12:01 | <geekosaur> | it handles it automatically |
| 23:18:35 | <geekosaur> | to explain a little: window managers do no drawing, they're about window placement policy |
| 23:18:51 | <geekosaur> | compositors, if running, specify what to draw |
| 23:19:22 | <geekosaur> | the X server does the actual drawing, by passing it on to the video driver according to window visibility |
| 23:21:08 | <geekosaur> | xrandr tells the X server and thereby the video driver the size, position, and orientation of displays, but shouldn't affect how windows are drawn beyond specifying what counts as "on screen" |
| 23:22:48 | <liskin> | georgesboris[m]: if you just do "xrandr --output NAME --auto --output NAME2 --auto --right-of NAME" and you get weird stuff then… probably take a photo and post it because weird stuff isn't expected |
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