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15:45:23 <HB[m]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHmPwsDr-PU
15:45:35 <HB[m]> Xmobar Fonts Are Broken! Should I Change Panels? (Polybar?)
15:45:35 <HB[m]> DistroTube guy
15:46:01 <HB[m]> I think he didn't get the memo about new font change to pango I think, at least in Xmobar I know.
15:46:13 <geekosaur> I figured that was it
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15:46:40 <geekosaur> (I won't be watching it, I have perceptual troubles with watching videos)
15:47:34 <geekosaur> I do have to say I wish they'd handled it a bit better; surely they could have done some minimal rewriting on seeing "xft:" on a font?
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15:51:21 <Solid> yes the communication was quite horrible for such a big change (well, there wasn't any)
15:51:40 <Solid> and jao didn't seem to care about backwards compatibility at all, really
15:52:11 <Solid> plus, xmobar is now broken for anything but glibc because the specific pango libs he chose require it
15:52:34 <Solid> I don't blame anyone wanting to switch panels after this, tbh
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16:07:08 <mazte[m]> <HB[m]> "I think he didn't get the memo..." <- That's basically what it is
16:07:24 <mazte[m]> I think they have a doc or issue that highlights this. One sec, lemme see
16:08:44 <mazte[m]> https://codeberg.org/xmobar/xmobar/issues/646
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16:11:02 <mazte[m]> I noticed that some fonts need to be resized after converting the declaration over to pango style too
16:11:09 <mazte[m]> They either look smaller or larger
16:17:02 <mazte[m]> Oh, that's the vid title. I thought you were saying that your fonts are broken and asking whether you should switch. My bad
16:17:09 <liskin> The other day I checked whether my Fixed font works in Pango by asking rofi (which uses pango) to render in Fixed and couldn't get the right spacing no matter what I did :-(
16:17:23 <liskin> So I think I'll be staying with old xmobar for a while
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16:18:04 <liskin> Strangely, it's all fine in gvim. But gvim probably does its own fixed width stuff
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17:06:29 <HB[m]> Oh I'm sorry I should have been more clear if I wasn't.
17:06:54 <HB[m]> Yes, I was sharing the video title in case IRC has no bot to fetch video title. Didn't want it to be a mystery meat video
17:07:19 <HB[m]> I changed over my config weeks ago. DT made the video just today I think, a few hous ago.
17:07:23 <HB[m]> s/hous/hours/
17:07:48 <HB[m]> I didn't really notice any differences. My xmobar seems to display all fonts fine.
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17:08:29 <HB[m]> position = Static { xpos = 0, ypos = 0, width = 1919, height = 18 }
17:08:29 <HB[m]> -- font = "xft:DejaVu Sans Condensed:size=9::antialias=true",
17:08:29 <HB[m]> , font = "DejaVu Sans Condensed 9"
17:08:39 <HB[m]> Does pango do anti aliasing?
17:08:54 <HB[m]> * anti aliasing? That's the only thing I see that's not explicity in the pango directive.
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17:13:24 <mazte[m]> > <@hashborgir:mozilla.org> Oh I'm sorry I should have been more clear if I wasn't.
17:13:24 <mazte[m]> >
17:13:24 <mazte[m]> No prob, that was on me. I'm sleep deprived and often misread when skimming text, lmao
17:13:25 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:1: error: parse error on input ‘<@’
17:13:55 <mazte[m]> <HB[m]> "Does pango do anti aliasing?" <- I thought it did, but not sure anymore
17:14:25 <mazte[m]> <liskin> "Strangely, it's all fine in gvim..." <- Wait, can you use both xft and pango on that?
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18:04:06 <liskin> mazte[m]: I think gvim just uses pango, I mean the vim-gtk3 version in Debian/Ubuntu
18:04:26 <liskin> So no, no xft AFAIK
18:18:48 <mazte[m]> Oh, gotcha
18:19:43 <mazte[m]> I wonder if xmobar will work well in wayland
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23:16:49 <galactic_starfis> in theory it could, so long as it uses non-X11 specific components... yet, however, as the name implies, it probably can't do that yet

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