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| 06:48:29 | <mekeor[m]> | 12min delay? haha |
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| 07:28:11 | <geekosaur> | some people only wait 30-60 seconds before they give up and leave |
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| 14:54:52 | <Goku_Black> | hi |
| 14:55:10 | <geekosaur> | hello |
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| 14:55:55 | <Goku_Black> | this is my first time using irc and xmonad |
| 14:56:03 | <geekosaur> | welcome! |
| 14:56:21 | <Goku_Black> | i wanna ask one thing |
| 14:56:32 | <Goku_Black> | why is hashkell documentation on xmonad |
| 14:56:35 | <Goku_Black> | not updated |
| 14:56:48 | <geekosaur> | not updated where? |
| 14:57:02 | <Goku_Black> | i tried default config they provide |
| 14:57:05 | <Goku_Black> | its outdated |
| 14:57:21 | <Goku_Black> | in the new one we need to define variable type right |
| 14:57:37 | <Goku_Black> | i dont know too much correct me if i am wrong |
| 14:57:48 | <geekosaur> | whose default config? there are several floating around that are straight up wrong and shouldn't be used |
| 14:58:01 | <geekosaur> | https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html is up to date |
| 14:58:33 | <Goku_Black> | the default config we get from hashkell website |
| 14:58:35 | <Goku_Black> | i used it |
| 14:59:04 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/VzDMLB7H is the default config |
| 14:59:14 | <Goku_Black> | then i asked the person using xmonad from some time he gave me a new config saying the one i am using is outdated |
| 14:59:16 | <Goku_Black> | let me check |
| 14:59:46 | <Goku_Black> | oh yeah this is the basic template right |
| 15:00:27 | <Goku_Black> | wait |
| 15:00:30 | <Goku_Black> | i got it |
| 15:00:37 | <Goku_Black> | just a error from my side |
| 15:00:51 | <geekosaur> | can you provide a URL for the incorrect one you're seeing? |
| 15:01:15 | <geekosaur> | there is one place where we have a config dating from 0.9 that is an example that is clearly labeled DO NOT USE |
| 15:01:24 | <Goku_Black> | i had a old conf its problem from my side i confused it with new one |
| 15:01:33 | <Goku_Black> | didnt knew about it |
| 15:01:49 | <geekosaur> | there's also stuff in the config archive but again I believe those are labeled with "many are for old versions of xmonad and won't work with newer ones" |
| 15:02:04 | <geekosaur> | some go back to 0.6 or earlier and really won't work in 0.17.x |
| 15:02:17 | <Goku_Black> | hmm i see |
| 15:02:57 | <Goku_Black> | i just shifted from bspwm to xmonad |
| 15:03:11 | <Goku_Black> | nice experience |
| 15:03:28 | <geekosaur> | have you found our binary space partition layout in contrib? |
| 15:04:02 | <Goku_Black> | nope |
| 15:04:07 | <Goku_Black> | no idea |
| 15:04:40 | <geekosaur> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/EFiXDccl |
| 15:04:58 | <geekosaur> | make sure xmonad-contrib is installed |
| 15:05:03 | <Goku_Black> | yes it is |
| 15:05:37 | <geekosaur> | you probably want to read https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Layout-BinarySpacePartition.html for the keybindings to use with it |
| 15:06:16 | <Goku_Black> | okk |
| 15:06:32 | <Goku_Black> | actually |
| 15:07:07 | <Goku_Black> | i just shifted to xmonad and its kind of confusing |
| 15:07:16 | <geekosaur> | not surprising |
| 15:07:45 | <Goku_Black> | yeah who pushed me into this said rip before making me install it I get it now why he said that |
| 15:08:45 | <Goku_Black> | https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html |
| 15:08:53 | <Goku_Black> | this is the page i am following |
| 15:09:38 | <geekosaur> | yes, this will teach you a basic setup with a status bar |
| 15:10:04 | <geekosaur> | then there's 300 contributed modules that make xmonad do pretty much anything you want |
| 15:10:31 | <Goku_Black> | D: ;( |
| 15:10:54 | <geekosaur> | ? |
| 15:11:16 | <Goku_Black> | so i have to go through all 300 of them |
| 15:12:05 | <geekosaur> | dunno if I'd go that far, you can always just ask here about how to do <x> and we can point you to the module(s) |
| 15:12:20 | <Goku_Black> | ohh isee |
| 15:12:22 | <Goku_Black> | okk |
| 15:12:23 | <geekosaur> | we've reached the point where even I can't remember everything… |
| 15:12:51 | <Goku_Black> | hahahah |
| 15:12:57 | <Goku_Black> | are you a dev in xmonad |
| 15:13:24 | <Goku_Black> | oh yes your email mentions it |
| 15:13:32 | <Goku_Black> | didnt knew sorry |
| 15:15:00 | <geekosaur> | yeh I'm one of the head devs and have been around since 0.3 |
| 15:15:33 | <Goku_Black> | oh wow |
| 15:15:42 | <Goku_Black> | thats way too long |
| 15:15:56 | <Goku_Black> | thanks for creating this beast haha |
| 15:16:19 | <geekosaur> | I didn't create it (I said 0.3, not 0.1!) |
| 15:16:31 | <geekosaur> | sadly Spencer moved on to other projects |
| 15:16:35 | <Goku_Black> | yeah but like you are working from 0,3 rught |
| 15:17:18 | <Goku_Black> | right* |
| 15:17:21 | <Goku_Black> | ohh |
| 15:17:50 | <Goku_Black> | he left behind a gift i can say haha |
| 15:19:06 | <Goku_Black> | since you are one of the devs i really wanna ask what do you guys think of distrotube he has been an xmonad user for a great amount of time |
| 15:19:41 | <geekosaur> | I personally don't know; I have sensory issues that make watching videos difficult |
| 15:20:05 | <geekosaur> | I can say we get bursts of new users every time a new distrotube xmonad video comes out 🙂 |
| 15:20:49 | <geekosaur> | I think distrotube and /r/unixporn are our two biggest "advertisers" |
| 15:21:25 | <geekosaur> | or should I say advertising outlets |
| 15:21:48 | <Goku_Black> | thats nice to hear because i got basic idea from dt videos about xmonad |
| 15:21:58 | <Goku_Black> | rest unixporn idk |
| 15:22:04 | <Goku_Black> | i dont visit it now |
| 15:22:10 | <Goku_Black> | its like a graveyard to me now |
| 15:26:05 | <Goku_Black> | okay geekosaur it was nice talking to you i am logging off now |
| 15:26:19 | <Goku_Black> | learning about xmonad |
| 15:26:22 | <geekosaur[m]> | Okay |
| 15:26:51 | <Goku_Black> | i will make a account on libera chat later with this same username |
| 15:27:08 | <Goku_Black> | then i will join here to ask for help haha |
| 15:27:16 | <Goku_Black> | bye and thanks |
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| 20:17:01 | <lain1001> | Hi, is it possible to set a keybinding that does two things at once? I tried to make a list, I had some compile errors. What I want to do with this keybinding is to toggle fullscreen and borders. Here's the "list" a made. , ("M-f", ["sendMessage $ Toggle FULL", "withFocused toggleBorder"]) . Thanks in advance. |
| 20:19:08 | <lain1001> | Here's the full config https://paste.rs/QOi.hs |
| 20:21:27 | <jade[m]> | the `X` monad is a monad for a reason, which means that you can compose actions. Here you want `>>` to apply one after the other |
| 20:26:22 | <[Leary]> | lain1001: What jade[m] said. However, you'll need to be a bit careful about operator precedence. In this case, $ with >> will cause a problem, but you can instead write: `sendMessage (Toggle FULL) >> withFocused toggleBorder` or equivalently `do { sendMessage $ Toggle FULL; withFocused toggleBorder }`. |
| 20:29:18 | <lain1001> | [Leary] jade[m] : That works thank you ' , ("M-f", sendMessage (Toggle FULL) >> withFocused toggleBorder) ' |
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