Logs on 2023-05-09 (liberachat/#xmonad)
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| 07:28:47 | <mc47> | geekosaur: I check in at least twice a week, but I don't know if I can even approve expenses |
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| 07:30:03 | <mc47> | I probably asked this before, but: liskin, Solid: I'm deciding whether or not I'll attend zurihac (or maybe try my luck with the GHC workshop), did you guys decide? |
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| 08:03:56 | <Solid> | mc47: I already booked tickets, so yes :) |
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| 08:55:11 | <liskin> | mc47: I still haven't decided :-( |
| 08:56:26 | <liskin> | been flying around a lot lately so somewhat likely to skip it :-/ |
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| 09:11:43 | <geekosaur> | mc47, I made both you and Solid admins on OC |
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| 09:12:11 | <geekosaur> | liskin and I discussed that a few days ago |
| 09:16:54 | <mc47> | I saw that, but I didn't receive any email |
| 09:16:57 | <mc47> | let me check again quickly |
| 09:17:37 | <geekosaur> | I don't know if it sends email, although IMO it should |
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| 10:39:09 | <mc47> | I can see I'm an admin now |
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| 11:17:55 | <liskin> | you may need to set up 2FA to approve expenses, I vaguely remember toggling something like that somewhere |
| 11:18:09 | <liskin> | (wouldn't be at all surprised if untoggling it didn't require 2FA though… :-)) |
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| 15:53:19 | <mc47> | Is there a reason boring windows are implemented as a layou? |
| 15:53:29 | <mc47> | I find that not intuitive |
| 15:53:51 | <geekosaur> | because they're old and there are better ways now? |
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| 16:13:38 | <mc47> | fair |
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| 16:14:53 | <geekosaur> | same goes for the layout-based workspace show-er |
| 16:15:27 | <geekosaur> | which IIRC Solid reimplemented |
| 16:15:41 | <geekosaur> | (ShowWName) |
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| 16:30:33 | <geekosaur> | more precisely, it needed to store state on the currently boring windows, and back then the only way to retain it was inside a layout constructor |
| 16:30:38 | <geekosaur> | these days we have XS |
| 16:44:21 | <mc47> | makes sense, thanks for the implementation |
| 16:44:29 | <mc47> | s/implementation/explanation/ |
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| 18:09:55 | <catern_> | is there a good way to detect if I'm running under xmonad? it doesn't set _NET_SUPPORTING_WM_CHECK by default which is somewhat sad |
| 18:11:23 | <geekosaur> | not if you aren't using EwmhDesktops |
| 18:11:34 | <catern_> | (I'm trying to fix an Emacs bug https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=62164 which makes an emacs feature behave poorly under tiling window managers, but one of the maintainers doesn't want my fix on at all times because he thinks some WMs will behave badly if my fix is present, so I'm thinking I can detect xmonad somehow and turn it on |
| 18:11:34 | <catern_> | then) |
| 18:11:48 | <catern_> | (and also detect other tiling wms of course) |
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| 19:04:20 | <Solid> | Po Lu seems open to making this configurable, just not the default (this seems to be a thing with Emacs) |
| 19:06:32 | <Solid> | I do question the choice of heeding to broken window managers, but I guess it may be better to err on the side of caution sometimes |
| 19:08:09 | <geekosaur> | some would claim we're broken because we're not EWMH out of the box |
| 19:11:57 | <geekosaur> | besides which, some would argue emacs is broken because it doesn't play well with window managers in general |
| 19:13:13 | <geekosaur> | hm, actually I wonder if you can get away with borrowing the Java hack |
| 19:15:16 | <geekosaur> | check the environment for _JAVA_AWT_WM_NONREPARENTING=1 |
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