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| 09:17:09 | <Solid> | liskin: not really, just get them out there somehow :) |
| 09:17:12 | <Solid> | (and on laptops!) |
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| 11:46:14 | <cotan> | Hello! I've spent some time to freshen up my decades old xmonad setup. All almost good now. I found out I had to patch the plasma framework (xmonad issue 174), and now that step is automatic \o/ |
| 11:47:36 | <cotan> | also switched to XMonad.Action.PhysicalScreen to avoid the weirdness of seemingly random order for {w,e,r}. Plus using XMonad.Hooks.Place's placeHook for notification. |
| 11:48:38 | <cotan> | The only thing left... sometimes plasma decides to restart itself or something, and when that happens all the window disappear, only the plasma stuff shows up. spawning a new window and dragging it over all the workspaces forces the existing window to be redrawn. |
| 11:48:50 | <cotan> | I'm looking for a way to not have to do that manually anymore. |
| 11:49:06 | <geekosaur> | that's … weird |
| 11:49:10 | <cotan> | always happened |
| 11:49:14 | <cotan> | since using plasma. |
| 11:50:29 | <geekosaur> | does mod-n help? |
| 11:50:30 | <cotan> | is there a way to tell XMonad to place go over all the existing windows and make sure they are redrawn once or whatever the correct terminology is? |
| 11:50:42 | <cotan> | (googles what mod-n is supposed to do) |
| 11:50:43 | <geekosaur> | (force refresh) |
| 11:50:58 | <cotan> | aha |
| 11:51:12 | <cotan> | uhm next thing it happens I'll try that.. maybe I can force it happening, let's see |
| 11:52:46 | <cotan> | nope, mod-n doesn't help |
| 11:53:25 | <geekosaur> | tbh if dragging a window over things makes them redraw properly that sounds like either video driver or compositor |
| 11:53:38 | <geekosaur> | not sure xmonad can help in that case |
| 11:55:50 | <cotan> | no compositor running |
| 11:56:02 | <cotan> | might be video driver yeah |
| 11:56:29 | <geekosaur> | I thought plasma had its own compositor |
| 11:56:54 | <cotan> | well yeah, but that's part of kwin |
| 11:56:59 | <cotan> | and xmonad replaces kwin |
| 11:57:23 | <geekosaur> | might be worth running compton/picom then and see if it helps |
| 11:57:32 | <cotan> | played a bit with picom but decided to stick with xcompmgr, much easier, and I bind a key to a script that toggles it. |
| 11:58:51 | <cotan> | toggling xcompmgr on did at least redraw the terminal on the focused workspace, nothing else though |
| 12:01:24 | <geekosaur> | mm, I have to think that means video driver problems 😞 |
| 12:11:05 | <cotan> | at least it doesn't crash that much, at least on the desktop where the monitors setup doesn't change that often. |
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| 20:04:37 | <johnabs[m]> | Hi all, I have a question about getting xmobar to behave the way I want to across multiple monitors, which was working before the 0.17.0 update, but is no longer working. If anyone has a moment, I've included a reddit [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/xmonad/comments/146jns3/issue_after_update_workspaces_are_not_being/) that I think documents the issue. Thank you very much for any help you guys are willing/able to provide, I seriously |
| 20:04:37 | <johnabs[m]> | appreciate it since I'm pretty new to haskell 😁 |
| 20:05:21 | <johnabs[m]> | * Hi all, I have a question about getting xmobar to behave the way I want to across multiple monitors, which was working before the 0.17.0 update, but is no longer working. If anyone has a moment, I've included a reddit [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/xmonad/comments/146jns3/issue_after_update_workspaces_are_not_being/) that I think documents the issue. Thank you very much for any help you guys are willing/able to provide, I seriously |
| 20:05:21 | <johnabs[m]> | appreciate it since I'm pretty new to haskell 😁 |
| 20:05:21 | <johnabs[m]> | Oh, and one thing, I fixed the initial issue, the current issue is in the second comment. |
| 20:09:00 | <geekosaur> | yes, statusBarProp will use the same property for both bars *and* xmobar is probably using the same property for both |
| 20:11:54 | <geekosaur> | change one of them to use `statusBarPropTo "somePropertyNameHere"` and in the `.xmobarrc` for the second xmobar you must use `Run XPropertyLog "somePropertyNameHere"` (and `%somePropertyNameHere%` in the `template`) |
| 20:13:18 | <geekosaur> | (pick a reasonable property name to use in place of "somePropertyNameHere", but use the same name in all the places I identified) |
| 20:15:04 | <johnabs[m]> | Thank you for the quick response! I'll give it a shot shortly and report back 😁 |
| 20:45:41 | <johnabs[m]> | So I tried the following with no dice: I defined these two:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/f35249a7908b06c7569d5ea9052400afd7a3f251>) |
| 20:48:20 | <geekosaur> | I think I'll have to hand you off to someone who knows xmobar configuration better; I don't use it |
| 20:48:46 | <johnabs[m]> | Ah, fair, thank you so much for your help so far! :) |
| 20:48:52 | <geekosaur> | I know the basics of StatusBar but I use xmonad-log-applet over dbus |
| 20:51:23 | <johnabs[m]> | Gotcha, I usually use other languages entirely, but xmonad is the most stable and has all the features I want so I try to work with it even though when the devs change stuff and I have to spend time fixing it 😅 |
| 20:52:06 | <geekosaur> | you could have kept using the old way |
| 20:52:44 | <geekosaur> | I think you'd at some point import XMonad.Hooks.StatusBar.PP instead of XMonad.Hooks.DynamicLog |
| 20:53:36 | <johnabs[m]> | I was originally using DynamicLog and tried using StatusBarPP but it failed to compile after the update (which I wouldn't have updated if I knew there would be breaking changes but, such is life 😅) |
| 20:54:30 | <geekosaur> | I think you have to yell at Solid if things broke 🙂 |
| 20:56:46 | <johnabs[m]> | I'll think about yelling after it gets fixed, otherwise I might be up a creek 😂 |
| 20:59:46 | <johnabs[m]> | Also, I fixed the issue of incorrect display, now I just need a way to hide the monitor number, and the workspaces from the other screen, so I'm slowly making progress! :) |
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| 21:59:18 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Solidcame across your `XMonad.Util.Run` post (https://tony-zorman.com/posts/calling-emacs-from-xmonad.html) and thought that was an interesting thing which I have been missing out on. But now I am confused about how I should integrate it with my old scratchpad setup.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/75ae451df1829c4025c3723e2caf7e48fd30528a>) |
| 22:03:05 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Error:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/ed3bdd4fe7588f25248dfd9624be4328580e5ebd>) |
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