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| 05:17:10 | <Solid[m]> | liskin well, how was it? :) |
| 05:17:47 | <liskin> | Solid[m]: the train ride? rubbish! |
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| 05:20:06 | <liskin> | ZuriHac was about the same as last year, except the first day someone managed to nerd snipe me into working with them on their project. And then I didn't get enough sleep and the following two days were less productive |
| 05:20:33 | <liskin> | At least I did more exercise than last year |
| 05:21:29 | <liskin> | Is the Matrix bridge operational again? |
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| 05:40:49 | <jish[m]> | Yeah, it is, I’m on matrix |
| 05:46:43 | <Solid> | very good |
| 05:46:56 | <Solid> | liskin: what was the project? |
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| 05:59:05 | <liskin> | Solid: a library for openbsd's pledge syscall; we spent most of the time fighting with types |
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| 09:31:35 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | <Solid> "ChaoticMist: guessing the type..." <- Apparently I had forgotten to replace the scratchpad list with `[]` which caused the error |
| 09:31:50 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Now I have to figure out why certain applications are not floating properly like they used to |
| 09:32:04 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Also, apologies for not updating previous message + thanks for reply even though I removed message! |
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| 09:45:14 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | That was a good remainder to put the rust-book aside and go back to haskell because I wouldn't have come up with that solution at all! |
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| 09:54:16 | <geekosaur> | "remove message" only works matrix-side; IRC doesn't know how to remove messages |
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| 17:19:00 | <horzion> | Hoi, so, ive tried playing Tekkit Lite (a minecraft modpack), but when launched it doesnt fullscreen, and when fullscreen is enabled, it completely breaks the monitor setup, so that every screen shows the same window, while arandr and co still saying that everything is setup properly |
| 17:19:12 | <horzion> | question would be how can i fix that |
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| 17:34:04 | <ke8cqc> | Hi there. For some reason xmobar is not starting when I open up xmonad. Here are the contents of my xmonad.hs and xmobar.conf: https://dpaste.com/EWUQKYGRS When I invoke it from the command line it works. Both the binaries xmonad and xmobar are in /usr/bin, so there are no permission issues and I believe there are also no $PATH errors. Nothing relating to xmobar shows up in ~/.xsession-errors and I get no errors when starting |
| 17:34:04 | <ke8cqc> | xmonad. I chatted at length with geekosaur yesterday, but no joy. |
| 17:34:30 | <geekosaur> | we need someone who knows xmobar better than I do… |
| 17:34:38 | <geekosaur> | (Solid: around?) |
| 17:35:29 | <ke8cqc> | Also xmonad.hs is in ~/.config/xmonad and xmobar.conf is in ~/.config/xmobar |
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| 17:36:35 | <horzion> | have you made sure you dont have a config for xmonad in ~/.xmonad/ |
| 17:37:09 | <horzion> | cause if it exists, and doesnt list xmobar, it wont spawn it |
| 17:37:34 | <ke8cqc> | I don't have ~/.xmonad directory. |
| 17:37:38 | <horzion> | ok |
| 17:39:08 | <ke8cqc> | Is there a way to put it in an autostart section? |
| 17:39:13 | <horzion> | yes |
| 17:39:26 | <ke8cqc> | What's the syntax to do that? |
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| 17:40:15 | <horzion> | i am not using it that way, so idk, but i used to launch it like that |
| 17:40:44 | <ke8cqc> | I'll do some googling around. How are you starting it, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 17:40:54 | <horzion> | via the main function |
| 17:41:10 | <horzion> | sec i upload my config, its way down, right above the help block |
| 17:41:31 | <horzion> | https://paste.ee/p/0KypY#xfAaqQPNahmIRmCfzQXsxVwQRwuel1lk |
| 17:43:02 | <horzion> | myStatusBar and main should be of interest to you |
| 17:46:59 | <ke8cqc> | I see myStatusBar. Are you talking about the main right below it? |
| 17:48:33 | <horzion> | yeah, you need both (well, you can also just put the things from myStatusBar directly where it is in main) |
| 17:50:19 | <ke8cqc> | Let me see if I'm understanding this right. Your main calls myStatusBar where xmobar is called??? |
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| 17:51:11 | <ke8cqc> | I don't even know enough Haskell to be dangerous. |
| 17:51:24 | <horzion> | myStatusBar is pretty much just a variable that stores what i want, which is then finally executed like i want it to |
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| 17:52:20 | <horzion> | above for the most part i define variables that are then finally placed in the main function for it to call |
| 17:52:39 | <ke8cqc> | Yeah I kinda noticed that. |
| 17:54:40 | <horzion> | does xmonad throw errors when you compile your current config? |
| 17:55:30 | <horzion> | i usually compile it in the terminal, so i see directly when it happens |
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| 18:05:22 | <ke8cqc> | horizon - Is there a way to copy / paste a xmonad error or is it in a file I could pull it from? |
| 18:06:05 | <horzion> | there should be file near the path where its compiled |
| 18:06:24 | <horzion> | xmonad.errors |
| 18:06:43 | <horzion> | i am guessing for you it should be ~/.config/xmonad/ |
| 18:06:47 | <ke8cqc> | I'll do a locate for it. |
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| 18:08:46 | <geekosaur> | ~/.local/share/xmonad/xmonad.errors |
| 18:09:07 | <horzion> | it depends where your xmonad is |
| 18:09:20 | <horzion> | for me its in ~/.xmonad/ |
| 18:09:31 | <geekosaur> | right be they're using ~/.config/xmonad |
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| 18:10:06 | <horzion> | then it should be in ~/.config/xmonad/ , no? |
| 18:10:19 | <geekosaur> | no |
| 18:10:56 | <ke8cqc> | Here are the contents of xmonad.hs and xmonad.errors: https://dpaste.com/7FM665HPD |
| 18:11:03 | <geekosaur> | in XDG mode we use proper XDG paths, so it's under ~/.local/share |
| 18:11:14 | <horzion> | you dont have to copy mine |
| 18:12:00 | <ke8cqc> | I know nothing about Haskell. |
| 18:12:26 | <ke8cqc> | ... other than xmonad is written in it. |
| 18:12:42 | <horzion> | i barely do either, all i do is read documentation and use my other programming knowledge |
| 18:13:01 | <ke8cqc> | I have no other programming knowledge to fall back on. |
| 18:13:23 | <geekosaur> | @where wikibook |
| 18:13:23 | <lambdabot> | http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haskell |
| 18:13:31 | <horzion> | https://paste.ee/p/hHhgd#Rx9tJM4WK2o8J9ybou1g58zaxFFMlzcU |
| 18:13:44 | <horzion> | this is how main and myStatusBar would look like for your case |
| 18:15:18 | <horzion> | somebody remind me, did haskell require function definitions to be written above the function they are used in? |
| 18:15:41 | <horzion> | cause c and python certainly do |
| 18:16:04 | <geekosaur> | haskell's only ordering constraint comes with template haskell |
| 18:16:12 | <geekosaur> | otherwise you can put anything anywhere |
| 18:16:20 | <horzion> | :thumbsup: |
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| 18:17:29 | <horzion> | i speculate that they are either missing an import or another xmonad config is used than the one they are defining xmobar in |
| 18:17:42 | <horzion> | actually |
| 18:18:12 | <horzion> | nvm |
| 18:18:50 | <ChaoticMist[m]> | Out of curiosity, why xmobar and not taffybar? |
| 18:20:16 | <horzion> | flavour would be my guess |
| 18:20:24 | <horzion> | also documentation |
| 18:20:28 | <geekosaur> | there's a missing import for clickablePP, but the other error is because `myStatusBar` needs to be wrapped in `withSB` (or `withSB` inside it, compare to `withEasySB`) |
| 18:20:41 | <horzion> | yeah, because they just copy pasted my stuff |
| 18:21:39 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Util-ClickableWorkspaces.html#v:clickablePP |
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| 18:22:07 | <ke8cqc> | horizon - Here is the error and xmonad.hs now: https://dpaste.com/63WK7QTM2 |
| 18:22:30 | <horzion> | i made an error |
| 18:22:42 | <ke8cqc> | I could have told you that. |
| 18:22:46 | <geekosaur> | you didn't fix myStatusBar |
| 18:22:49 | <horzion> | i did |
| 18:22:56 | <horzion> | but i didnt fix something else |
| 18:23:46 | <ke8cqc> | Could you give me the myStatusBar line along with my main once you fix the error. |
| 18:24:07 | <ke8cqc> | ? |
| 18:24:10 | <horzion> | i would like geekosaur to check mine for any obvious errors first |
| 18:24:11 | <horzion> | https://paste.ee/p/L5rZg#6jgQlOXwiQbZyRD3HB4_1hVhb_g3vm05 |
| 18:24:32 | <ke8cqc> | geekosaur: Do your stuff!!! |
| 18:24:41 | <horzion> | calm down |
| 18:24:56 | <ke8cqc> | I'm just being a dork. |
| 18:26:03 | <geekosaur> | the problem there is you're expecting it to "unwrap" myStatusBar into withEasySB. Haskell doesn't work that way (Lisp does, at least with `,@`) |
| 18:26:36 | <horzion> | idk, it have it the same without defToggleStrutKey |
| 18:26:41 | <horzion> | no errors with that one |
| 18:27:24 | <geekosaur> | defToggleStrutsKey is in the wrong place as a result; it needs to be inside the parens |
| 18:28:35 | <horzion> | good to know |
| 18:32:44 | <ke8cqc> | So do I put defToggleStrutKey in the parens alongside myStatusBar, in its own parens, or in the parens in main :: ID () ??? |
| 18:34:15 | <geekosaur> | withEasySB (myStatusBar defToggleStrutsKey) |
| 18:34:31 | <ke8cqc> | Ok I'll give that a go... |
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| 18:43:50 | <ke8cqc> | xmobar.hs and error: https://dpaste.com/GBJRBR7V2 |
| 18:44:27 | <horzion> | quick tip: xmonad wont compile if there is an error in the config. so no need to restart. so check first if there are any errors in the xmonad.errors. |
| 18:45:02 | <geekosaur> | no xmonad.hs there |
| 18:45:30 | <geekosaur> | but you're calling sttausBar, doesn't that want to be myStatusBar? |
| 18:46:03 | <horzion> | hard to tell without xmonad.hs |
| 18:46:15 | <horzion> | but yeah, thats what i thought too |
| 18:46:42 | <ke8cqc> | https://dpaste.com/869F99QGR |
| 18:47:04 | <ke8cqc> | Sorry about that. |
| 18:47:06 | <horzion> | yeah, that needs to be myStatusBar, not just statusBar |
| 18:48:08 | <geekosaur> | hm, and it looks like I was wring before, defToggleStrutsKey goes to withEasySB not myStatusBar |
| 18:48:30 | <ke8cqc> | Ok. so I just need do xmonad --recompile??? |
| 18:48:49 | <horzion> | do it in your terminal, if it errors out, upload new xmonad.errors |
| 18:53:40 | <ke8cqc> | https://dpaste.com/7MLR88NS5 |
| 18:55:14 | <ke8cqc> | It's a lot more convenient because recompile puts the error in the stdout so I don't have to change directories. |
| 18:55:21 | <horzion> | yup |
| 18:55:31 | <geekosaur> | right, you missed what I said earlier whne I noted that moving defToggleStrutsKey was actually incorrect |
| 18:55:46 | <geekosaur> | [13 18:48:08] <geekosaur> hm, and it looks like I was wring before, defToggleStrutsKey goes to withEasySB not myStatusBar |
| 18:56:16 | <horzion> | well, you didnt particular state how exactly it should be done better. mind you, they seem to have zero programming knowledge and how to do it |
| 18:56:40 | <geekosaur> | yeh, I meant to go back to the earlier one |
| 18:56:44 | <ke8cqc> | Bubblegum and baling wire. |
| 18:57:22 | <geekosaur> | but I'm kinda floundering myself since I'm not especially familiar with this stuff; I don't use xmobar or withSB/withEasySB, I feed xmonad-log-applet over dbus |
| 18:57:49 | <horzion> | no worries, i made a mistake, you made one, everybody does. no big deal :D |
| 18:58:13 | <ke8cqc> | geekosaur: I concur with horizon. |
| 18:58:37 | <ke8cqc> | geekosaur: You're not floundering. I am. |
| 19:00:35 | <horzion> | anyways what geekosaur meant: ". withEasySB myStatusBar defToggleStrutsKey" instead of ". withEasySB (myStatusBar defToggleStrutsKey)" if i understood that correctly |
| 19:02:04 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 19:02:05 | <ke8cqc> | I just got it to recompile without errors moving defToggleStrutsKey out of the parens. |
| 19:02:21 | <ke8cqc> | Restart??? |
| 19:02:23 | <geekosaur> | I'm looking at https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/docs/XMonad-Hooks-StatusBar.html#v:withEasySB |
| 19:02:28 | <geekosaur> | sure |
| 19:02:41 | <ke8cqc> | I'll be back no matter what happens... |
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| 19:04:03 | <ke8cqc> | No errors, but no xmobar either. |
| 19:05:09 | <horzion> | you are not autostarting any programs that may be overlaying xmobar? |
| 19:06:02 | <ke8cqc> | I don't think so. |
| 19:06:49 | <ke8cqc> | I don't have an autostart file in my home dir. I call all autostart programs in bspwm in it's config file. |
| 19:07:11 | <ke8cqc> | ... and those are the 2 WMs I have on this machine. |
| 19:08:39 | <ke8cqc> | It starts from the CLI. |
| 19:12:25 | <ke8cqc> | I need to get away from it now. I will be back. Thanks horizon and geekosaur. I appreciate the suggestions whether they worked or didn't. |
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| 19:14:07 | <horzion> | we need to see the xmobar config later, cause i think they are missing UnsafeXMonadLog |
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| 19:14:31 | <horzion> | or some other config disabling it |
| 19:28:19 | <geekosaur> | they showed the xmobar config earlier, but that shouldn't lead to a state where it works from a terminal |
| 19:28:55 | <geekosaur> | https://dpaste.com/7Q4ZTBWSR at the bottom |
| 19:31:44 | <geekosaur> | (where "works" = "even displays at all, never mind clickable") |
| 19:32:26 | <geekosaur> | iirc it just ignores the clickable stuff if you don't use UnsafeXMonadLog, it doesn't exit |
| 19:36:45 | <geekosaur> | it still feels like somehow it's something wrong with $PATH, or possibly shared objects. I should have had them change "xmobar" to "sh -c /usr/bin/xmobar >/tmp/xmobar.log 2>&1" |
| 19:36:45 | <horzion> | hm |
| 19:46:22 | <geekosaur> | actually, to keep from breaking the restart stuff and to test $PATH that should be "sh -c 'exec xmobar' >/tmp/xmobar.log 2>&1" |
| 20:02:28 | <geekosaur> | "exec >/tmp/xmobar.log 2>&1; exec sh -c 'exec xmobar'" |
| 20:02:38 | <geekosaur> | to be unbearably precise 😛 |
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