Logs on 2023-10-12 (liberachat/#xmonad)
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| 08:17:21 | <thyriaen> | Hola, my friends and frenzies -- I have a problem with zoom: when i switch a workspace zoom get's "minimized" and changes to this really annoying -- also in ubuntu: https://community.zoom.com/t5/Meetings/The-app-window-gets-minimized-when-switching-workspaces-in/m-p/129330 is there a way to not tell the application that i changed the workspace ? :p |
| 08:17:50 | <thyriaen> | this annoying minimized version is visable on all workspaces and the main window is gone |
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| 12:34:39 | <Solid> | geekosaur: don't be so negative, I'm sure someone qualified will turn up at some point :) |
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| 14:46:15 | <thyriaen> | anyone has any idea ? |
| 14:47:07 | <geekosaur> | the only way to do that is to doIgnore it, which probably does too much (you can't focus it any more, for one) |
| 14:48:20 | <geekosaur> | well, there's also copyToAll (XMonad.Actions.CopyWindow) depending on exactly what you want |
| 14:52:23 | <geekosaur> | Solid, the point of that was actually thinking forward to the next step… |
| 14:57:26 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, but it would be nice to not have the small minimzed version at all |
| 14:57:34 | <thyriaen> | to always have zoom stay in the main version |
| 14:57:45 | <thyriaen> | so i can switch workspaces and then back again without zoom being gone |
| 14:58:04 | <thyriaen> | is there maybe an open source zoom client ? |
| 14:58:50 | <geekosaur> | not that I'm aware of |
| 14:59:24 | <geekosaur> | copyToAll should prevent the window "knowing about" workspace switches (i.e. main window being withdrawn) |
| 14:59:35 | <thyriaen> | oh |
| 14:59:38 | <geekosaur> | anything else is up to the app and there probably isn't much to be done about it |
| 14:59:43 | <thyriaen> | and is it then also visable to all workspaces ? |
| 15:01:59 | <geekosaur> | yes, that's the point of copyToAll |
| 15:03:05 | <thyriaen> | but its not what i want xD |
| 15:03:41 | <geekosaur> | then you need to get the app changed |
| 15:03:56 | <geekosaur> | the window manager can only do so much |
| 15:10:31 | <thyriaen> | geekosaur, can scratchpads help somehow ? |
| 15:10:58 | <thyriaen> | that the window is in this hidden workspace but still running when not visable ? |
| 15:12:31 | <geekosaur> | No |
| 15:14:22 | <geekosaur> | In fact I would expect it to play very badly with scratchpads |
| 15:20:22 | <thyriaen> | ok |
| 15:20:38 | <thyriaen> | i just hate zoom so much because it doesn't respect just being a window |
| 15:20:42 | <thyriaen> | it wants to control all |
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| 20:08:56 | <haskellbridge> | <🍄 HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> I am studying for CompTIA Pentest+ certification, using Kali linux/offensive security stuff. I'm having to use Kali in a VM and I've not used anything but Xmonad in over 14 years almost, and having to use whatever is in there is horrible. Xfce I think. ☹️ |
| 20:10:34 | <haskellbridge> | <🍄 HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Now I'm going to have to figure out how to redo my Kali VM with Xmonad. I could build it from source... or I could use distro packages. Since it's just a VM, I don't really need it to do advanced stuff. I just need everything to be fullscreen by default, no titlebars (as Xmonad doesn't display them), and a taskbar to easily switch |
| 20:10:34 | <haskellbridge> | those windows. I wondow how the meta key will fun <clipped message> |
| 20:10:35 | <haskellbridge> | <🍄 HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> ction insdie a VM running Xmonad, which is itself running on a desktop with Xmonad |
| 20:11:37 | <haskellbridge> | <🍄 HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Xmonad desktop running Vbox VM or Kali Linux. In the VM I also want Xmonad. Default config will suffice inside for the most part. |
| 20:12:44 | <haskellbridge> | <🍄 HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> So I just tested. When I use the Meta key inside the VM, the outside Xmonad desktop isn't affected. So that's good. The VM is eating all input. That's good. Means there won't be a conflict. |
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| 20:28:05 | <geekosaur> | yes, virtual machines do screen grabs |
| 20:28:19 | <geekosaur> | er, keyboard and pointer grabs |
| 20:37:41 | <haskellbridge> | <🍄 HB|A+,Net+,Sec+,CySA+,ECES,ITILv4,SSCP,MCP,MCSE|🌿> Thank you. I hope you're doing well. |
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