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11:24:42 <xmonadtrack> New branch created: haskell-ci-update (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/tree/haskell-ci-update
11:24:45 <xmonadtrack> New branch created: pull/476 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/476
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12:00:01 <liskin> there will be more…
12:00:09 <xmonadtrack> xmonad github-actions[bot] * v0.17.2-93-g8e82094: ci: Regenerate haskell-ci (38 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 7-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/8e820945f44e
12:00:13 <xmonadtrack> xmonad Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.2-94-g1b7dea7: Merge pull request #476 from xmonad/haskell-ci-update (3 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/1b7dea7acc72
12:00:27 <liskin> also auto-update of tested-with
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12:23:35 <mekeor> hello. when i try to bind C-i to C-i with the following keybinding-code, it works for firefox, but it does not work for neither for emacs nor my gtk-based terminal emulator. this does not happen when i bind M-i to send C-i. that works fine everywhere. any ideas what's going wrong? here's the code: ("C-i", bindFirst [(pure True, sendKey controlMask xK_i)])
12:26:43 <mekeor> hm, looks like i was wrong regarding "this does not happen when i bind M-i to send C-i."
12:28:42 <mekeor> no, i was right!
12:29:27 <mekeor> i'm actually aiming to use xmonad as some kind of replacement for tools like xremap and kmonad.
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12:35:35 <xmonadtrack> New branch created: pull/477 (2 commits) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/477
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12:40:38 <xmonadtrack> New xmonad-contrib branch created: haskell-ci-update (2 commits) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/tree/haskell-ci-update
12:40:45 <xmonadtrack> New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/838 (2 commits) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/838
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12:44:53 <Solid> I fail to see how you could ever use XMonad as a replacement for KMonad
12:45:02 <Solid> but you do you, as long as what you want to achieve works :)
12:45:41 <xmonadtrack> X11 Tony Zorman {Tomas Janousek} * 1.10.3-19-g9234161: ci: Test against GHC 9.6.1 (7 months ago, 4 files, 25+ 35-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11/commit/9234161929c8
12:45:43 <xmonadtrack> X11-xft Tony Zorman {Tomas Janousek} * v0.3.4-22-g174fb69: ci: Test against GHC 9.6.1 (7 months ago, 4 files, 25+ 35-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/commit/174fb69968e5
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12:50:45 <xmonadtrack> X11 New branch created: haskell-ci-update (2 commits) https://github.com/xmonad/X11/tree/haskell-ci-update
12:50:53 <xmonadtrack> X11 New branch created: pull/89 (2 commits) https://github.com/xmonad/X11/pull/89
12:51:02 <xmonadtrack> X11-xft New branch created: haskell-ci-update (2 commits) https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/tree/haskell-ci-update
12:51:16 <xmonadtrack> X11-xft New branch created: pull/6 (2 commits) https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/pull/6
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13:00:19 <Solid> liskin: Well, you weren't lying when you said there'll be more :)
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13:20:40 <liskin> Solid: :-D
13:24:06 <liskin> I had this open in a workspace for over 3 months
13:24:53 <liskin> Now I only need to finish one or two other workspaces before I can update the kernel (and possibly upgrade the batteries)
13:38:40 <Solid> lol
13:42:18 <liskin> up 213 days
13:42:21 <liskin> fun stuff
13:48:23 <Solid> and here I am anxiously thinking about a restart after 3 days :P
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14:11:42 <xmonadtrack> X11 Tony Zorman * 1.10.3-20-gd9bb51c: Extras: Use drop 1 instead of tail (2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11/commit/d9bb51c468d7
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14:13:17 <Guest47> Hello there
14:13:41 <geekosaur> hello
14:14:04 <Guest47> A colleague of mine is working with `xmonad` since long time, and I can see he his **super** efficient exchanging with his machine.
14:15:10 <Guest47> I wanted to start using it too, on top of my Ubuntu distro.
14:15:58 <Guest47> I was able to easily have an `xmonad` session using xmonad stuff from the Ubuntu repos, but unfortunately, the packaged version is 0.15.
14:16:32 <Guest47> I then followed the documentation from the `xmonad` documentation to build my own version from the sources.
14:16:47 <Guest47> Everything went fine for compiling.
14:17:25 <Guest47> I am now facing my problem : running `xmonad --replace`` to test it, freezes my session.
14:18:26 <Guest47> I reached this IRC channel, to ask for help since I don't know at all where to look at in order to understand what's happening and be able to use `xmonad` version 17 on my Ubuntu.
14:20:16 <liskin> Solid: why restart after 3 days?
14:26:48 <geekosaur> Guest47, what are you trying to replace? for example, GNOME 3 doesn't like to be replaced (too many components that break if they're not all running, so they restart each other)
14:27:43 <Guest47> geekosaur I am replacing ubuntu 22_04 graphical session called "ubuntu"
14:29:51 <geekosaur> hm, I'm not even sure that's X11
14:29:58 <geekosaur> you can't --replace wayland
14:30:07 <geekosaur> it is definitely gnome 3
14:31:43 <Guest47> Ok, got it I guess. I'll try to logout, use the "ubuntu on Xorg" graphical environment, and replace again. And I'll come back here.
14:31:48 <Guest47> Thank you very much.
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14:36:51 <Manu38> geekosaur it is better :) `xmonad` is able to start.
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14:42:55 <Manu38> geekosaur it is better :) `xmonad` is able to start. But then I have three windows opening saying, "something went wrong" please logout. I guess that the best thing I have to do now, is to set up a new entry in my login screen to start `xmonad` directly without replacing anything.
14:43:07 <Manu38> But unfortunately I have not been able to do that up to know, and that's why I came to the `xmonad --replace`. Does anyone here is using Ubuntu and added `xmonad` to the login screen ?
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14:48:03 <geekosaur> wish they'd stick around
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14:49:15 <Manu38> What I tried up to now, as mentioned in the xmonad installation guide, is to add a `/usr/share/xsessions/default.desktop` and a `.xsession` one.
14:49:43 <geekosaur> https://www.maths.cam.ac.uk/computing/linux/X/xsession says there should be a "user script" option, and then put xmonad in ~/.xsession
14:49:46 <Manu38> My `.xsession` contains
14:49:47 <Manu38> ```
14:49:47 <Manu38> #!/usr/bin/env bash
14:49:48 <Manu38> exec /home/manu/.cabal/bin/xmonad
14:49:48 <Manu38> ```
14:50:04 <geekosaur> (I haven't done this in a while, I run xmonad as window manager for MATE)
14:50:46 <Manu38> With that, I see a new entry in my login screen, but when I login using that entry, after few second of delay in a black screen, the ubuntu default desktop environment comes back.
14:50:59 <geekosaur> check ~/.xsession-errors
14:51:48 <geekosaur> (black screen would be expected, by default xmonad is very bare. expect to spend a few months customizing it to your tastes 🙂
14:53:15 <geekosaur> the thing about xmonad is that it's no so much a window manager, as it is a window manager construction toolkit. we have a huge contrib archive with components you can hook into it to build your own personal window manager
14:53:18 <Manu38> (yep I already experienced that with the 0.15 version I successfully installed before with ubuntu apt. The thing is that the doc I was reading to configure xmonad was mostly for 0.17. Hence my try to update)
14:54:18 <geekosaur> not a lot has changed in the core
14:54:27 <geekosaur> some bug fixes, mostly
14:55:14 <Manu38> So you would recommend using the 0.15 version ?
14:56:24 <geekosaur> we generally recommend the current Hackage version or running from git, but the OS package is usually easier to set up
14:56:52 <geekosaur> sometimes you can copy the session definition from the OS package and use it with your own install
14:57:56 <Manu38> Yes, I'll have a look on that side right now. And come back here to let you know what happened.
14:58:03 <Manu38> Thank you very much again.
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15:02:19 <xmonadtrack> X11 github-actions[bot] {Tomas Janousek} * 1.10.3-21-g7a74ec2: ci: Bump GHC patch versions in tested-with (2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11/commit/7a74ec2ea679
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15:02:23 <xmonadtrack> X11 github-actions[bot] {Tomas Janousek} * 1.10.3-22-gb70d7d8: ci: Regenerate haskell-ci (2 hours ago, 1 file, 22+ 15-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11/commit/b70d7d828777
15:02:31 <xmonadtrack> X11 Tomáš Janoušek {GitHub} * 1.10.3-23-ge3559e1: Merge pull request #89 from xmonad/haskell-ci-update (3 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11/commit/e3559e1b6435
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15:27:41 <xmonadtrack> X11-xft Tomas Janousek * v0.3.4-23-gf2104ac: Xft: Fix GHC 9.8 warnings via NonEmpty.groupBy (8 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 3-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/commit/f2104ac56b76
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15:34:44 <liskin> surely the "Wayland churn" must be more fun than this :-)
15:35:09 <thyriaen> wayland churn ?
15:36:15 <liskin> 08:27:08 <Solid> I wish Wayland would excite me, then I might even be able to justify spending the necessary time to learn everything
15:36:17 <liskin> 08:27:15 <Solid> but it just feels like churn :/
15:36:20 <liskin> (a couple days ago)
15:37:45 <xmonadtrack> X11-xft github-actions[bot] {Tomas Janousek} * v0.3.4-24-g19b3867: ci: Bump GHC patch versions in tested-with (3 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/commit/19b38673ad14
15:37:47 <xmonadtrack> X11-xft github-actions[bot] {Tomas Janousek} * v0.3.4-25-g89f2deb: ci: Regenerate haskell-ci (3 hours ago, 1 file, 22+ 15-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/commit/89f2deb252cd
15:37:55 <xmonadtrack> X11-xft Tomáš Janoušek {GitHub} * v0.3.4-26-g235b6fa: Merge pull request #6 from xmonad/haskell-ci-update (4 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/X11-xft/commit/235b6fa67d27
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15:38:56 <Solid> You know, you are probably right :) Maybe I'll try to get the wlroots bindings up to snuff when my new laptop arrives as a celebratory measure
15:39:37 <Solid> (r.e. uptime: 3 days is not set in stone, but that's around the time when I usually get self-conscious about not having shut down my computer in a while :)
15:43:23 <liskin> I still wonder how bad it'd be to just make/generate completely stupid C-like not-idiomatic-Rust-like wlroots Rust bindings and build on top of that
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15:44:07 <liskin> (as opposed to writing the compositor in C/C++, which is what most other WMs ended up doing, despite possibly having started with Rust)
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15:44:48 <liskin> if I ever have the time to work on this, seems like that's what _I_ would want to explore first
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15:55:25 <Solid> I am reminded of https://way-cooler.org/blog/2019/04/29/rewriting-way-cooler-in-c.html
15:56:29 <Solid> There seems to be at least exist a rust-based wayland compositor ( https://github.com/Smithay/smithay ) but I'm not sure how featureful it is
15:59:58 <liskin> seemed unmaintained last time I checked
16:00:15 <liskin> and yeah that blog post is what I was referring to
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16:43:32 <xmonadtrack> xmonad github-actions[bot] * v0.17.2-95-gafb66dd: ci: Bump GHC patch versions in tested-with (4 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/afb66dd55c6c
16:43:34 <xmonadtrack> xmonad github-actions[bot] * v0.17.2-96-ga239a00: ci: Regenerate haskell-ci (4 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 4-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/a239a0097789
16:43:42 <xmonadtrack> xmonad Tomas Janousek * v0.17.2-97-g35fa7bf: ci: Disable x-partial warnings in the testsuite (30 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/35fa7bf4a299
16:43:49 <xmonadtrack> xmonad Tomas Janousek {GitHub} * v0.17.2-98-gbd69d20: Merge pull request #477 from xmonad/haskell-ci-update (3 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/commit/bd69d20d01c1
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17:36:48 <Solid> the smithay repo had a commit 2 hours ago, so it doesn't look super unmaintained :)
17:52:03 <liskin> Oh, maybe I should look again
17:52:38 <geekosaur> interesting that one's still going; I saw several that had started out in Rust and ditched it
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18:40:44 <Solid> wlroots bindings were mostly ditched, but this is really a separate compositor, so I guess you can really design it from a "Rust perspective" from the get-go
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19:10:26 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib philib {Tony Zorman} * v0.17.1-194-g105cbe03: X.U.NamedScratchpad: Add nsSingleScratchpadPerWorkspace (6 days ago, 2 files, 40+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/105cbe03624b
19:10:29 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman * v0.17.1-195-ge1dc2a37: X.U.NamedScratchpad: Extract common parts of ns{HideOnFocusLoss,SingleScratchpadPerWorkspace} (12 minutes ago, 1 file, 37+ 32-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/e1dc2a375098
19:10:38 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.17.1-204-gf654082c: Merge pull request #837 from philib/master (24 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/f654082c5b5f
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