Logs on 2023-12-16 (liberachat/#xmonad)
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| 02:58:56 | <liskin> | Silly question, but… have people previously complained that restarting a browser doesn't shift windows to their original workspaces? |
| 03:00:06 | <liskin> | I've somehow thought it isn't easy to do, for all these years, but it's like 6 lines of code or something :-D |
| 03:01:23 | <geekosaur> | have you tried to id those windows? |
| 03:01:47 | <liskin> | It's just a matter of making a managehook that looks at _NET_WM_DESKTOP |
| 03:01:57 | <liskin> | I'm just totally confused why it hasn't been done before |
| 03:02:04 | <liskin> | (as in - isn't in contrib) |
| 03:03:22 | <liskin> | (I'll submit a PR later) |
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| 12:35:17 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Hello, good morning, I'm trying to recover an xmonad.hs configuration from 2014, but I'm getting errors that I don't know how to solve, sorry if I'm somewhat new to Haskell. Attached xmonad.hs and error capture; I don't have a better way to do it, sorry: CONFIG: https://paste.c-net.org/LiterClever ERROR: https://imgur.com/a/wW0tVLw Any help, pls? |
| 12:44:31 | <[Leary]> | h1y0s1lv3r: <https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-0.17.2/changelog>, <https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.1/changelog> |
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| 12:45:50 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Ufs, thanks, a lot of changes and a lot of work Leary, maybe is good idea start with a new configuration... |
| 12:46:09 | <[Leary]> | These changelogs can be considered migration guides. If you search for 'default' (a reasonable keyword based on your errors) in these, you'll get helpful hits; no need to start over. |
| 12:47:01 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Yes I see: Use of data-default allows using def where previously you had to write defaultConfig, defaultXPConfig, etc. |
| 12:48:05 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Let's try with def. |
| 12:52:45 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Yes, I need to start with empty xmonad.hs and go step by step, thanks anyway. Enjoy rest of the day. |
| 12:55:10 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Do we have templates updated to start with? pls |
| 12:55:55 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Will try with https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Config_archive |
| 12:56:53 | <[Leary]> | Those configs are probably even older and more broken than yours. |
| 12:57:45 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Yes continues using from 2010 DefaultConfig omg. |
| 12:58:14 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Do we have somewhere templates updated? Leary |
| 12:58:41 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Could you share with me someone, pls? |
| 12:58:49 | <[Leary]> | I don't think we've ever actually offered a template; it doesn't really make that sense for xmonad. A lot of work has been put into the tutorial, though: https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html |
| 12:59:06 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Ok, will check, thanks Leary. |
| 13:00:01 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Leary, looks updated using 'main = xmonad $ def' but use xmobar, :( jiji, will try. |
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| 13:11:01 | <h1y0s1lv3r> | Ok, must to exit to test new config. Will see :) |
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| 13:26:49 | <Solid> | liskin: browsers are evil, so I think people just tend to accept when they misbehave :) |
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| 13:39:42 | <liskin> | Solid: :-D |
| 13:40:48 | <liskin> | speaking of misbehaving, I had to do stringProperty "WM_WINDOW_ROLE" =? "browser" --> desktopHook, because otherwise cantata (gui for mpd) would try to restore itself to the last desktop if was on |
| 13:41:00 | <liskin> | and I'm half-sure pavucontrol would do a similar thing too |
| 13:41:47 | <liskin> | I quite like the fact these two remember the position (well, otherwise I'd add one line to manageHook, so, um, silly me), but I want them to just appear in front of me wherever I am |
| 13:42:07 | <liskin> | anyway, off to the Santa Skate |
| 13:42:42 | <liskin> | Solid: week's been busy so I may not manage to review the Cond stuff by tomorrow evening but it's in my "today" todo list :-) |
| 13:44:27 | <Solid> | liskin: sounds great! :) |
| 14:46:02 | <xmonadtrack> | New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/850 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/850 |
| 14:46:51 | <Solid> | [Leary]: there is a better development workflow than having to push every change to a working commit, change the flake to that branch, nix flake update, remove all unwanted updates, and rebuilding… right? |
| 16:09:26 | <[Leary]> | Solid: Yes, though it depends on precisely what you're doing. Not all changes necessarily need to be commited; iirc nix can still build a dirty worktree so long as the files are all tracked. Re `nix flake update`: instead of removing changes, do it pinpoint from the start with `nix flake lock --update-input _`. Of course, it's still a hassle and shouldn't be part of your tight-loop iteration; ideally you just let nix provide an environment that won't |
| 16:09:27 | <[Leary]> | need to be rebuilt/restarted often and let less arcane tools handle the rest. |
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| 18:51:50 | <Solid> | [Leary]: I was mostly asking about e.g. trying to reproduce a bug. My usual way of doing this would be to copy the given config, pepper some traces all over contrib, recompile, and start xmonad within xephyr |
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| 21:02:23 | <portnov> | https://i.ibb.co/LdpDS4h/Screenshot-20231217-020105.png sorry, could not stand it. Just too funny :) |
| 21:02:49 | <portnov> | it's xmonad, if someone is in doubt. |
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