Logs on 2024-02-06 (liberachat/#xmonad)

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03:18:13	<beastwick>	Hi I am trying to get new windows to open to the right of the master pane. I followed some docs, but no matter what - it seems to have no effect. https://pastebin.com/CEpHuDQJ
03:18:22	<beastwick>	https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Hooks-InsertPosition.html
03:18:48	<beastwick>	, manageHook = insertPosition Above Older
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04:22:28	<[Leary]>	beastwick: That doesn't change how windows are inserted (Above is default), it only stops them from taking focus. Try using `Below` (and perhaps `Newer`).
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15:38:53	<beastwick>	I don't think that had much effect
15:39:05	<beastwick>	are there any docs that explain xmonad hooks and how to set them up?
15:40:00	<liskin>	beastwick: https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.18.0.9/XMonad-Doc-Extending.html is probably a good place to start
15:40:09	<beastwick>	thanks
16:15:27	<beastwick>	My haskell is always being challenged, lol. How does one pull out an id from an X id? https://pastebin.com/kZYdsWEz
16:15:46	<geekosaur>	>>= but you have to put it back afterward
16:16:09	<beastwick>	really?
16:17:11	<geekosaur>	gets (W.screen . W.current . windowset) >>= toggleWS
16:17:14	<geekosaur>	and yes, really
16:17:20	<geekosaur>	@where iotut
16:17:20	<lambdabot>	https://www.vex.net/~trebla/haskell/IO.xhtml
16:17:43	<beastwick>	something like (workspacesOn $ withWindowSet $ return . W.screen . W.current) >>= toggleWS?
16:17:58	<geekosaur>	oh, sorry, missed workspacesOn
16:18:12	<geekosaur>	withWindowSet needs to be run in X also
16:18:30	<beastwick>	wow this is confusing :(
16:18:39	<beastwick>	run in X, means run in the Xmonad program?
16:18:57	<geekosaur>	in the X monad (that is, its type is X something)
16:19:07	<geekosaur>	read the iotut I linked
16:19:15	<beastwick>	is a monad like a container for the X program?
16:20:09	<geekosaur>	a monad is a program, sort of
16:21:21	<beastwick>	, ((modMask, xK_p) (gets (workspacesOn (W.screen . W.current . windowset)) >>= toggleWS) sadly complaining about tab character elsewhere in the program after this change
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17:55:22	<beastwick>	hold on, the X I am seeing is referring to Xmonad right?
17:55:30	<beastwick>	or is that something the compiler is using as a placeholder
18:09:32	<geekosaur>	X is IO plus xmonad's internal configuration and state
18:10:11	<geekosaur>	newtype X a = StateT XState (ReaderT XConf IO) a
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