Logs on 2024-02-16 (liberachat/#xmonad)
| 01:00:22 | <beastwick> | I can't decide if I like or dislike independent screens, haha. |
| 01:00:50 | <beastwick> | I feel like it takes away from a nice native xmonad feature, but sometimes it's warranted. |
| 01:02:50 | <geekosaur> | it's not really my thing |
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| 01:22:03 | <xmonadtrack> | New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/874 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/874 |
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| 02:58:23 | <breakpoint> | @where paste |
| 02:58:23 | <lambdabot> | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com |
| 02:59:41 | <breakpoint> | hello. i currently have the following to switch out between screens |
| 03:00:03 | <breakpoint> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/AwGlj3pS |
| 03:00:32 | <breakpoint> | as i have 4 monitors, i am trying to make it cycle between them all using alt + super + keypad number. |
| 03:00:50 | <breakpoint> | but unfortunately only 3 of the screens work. is there something i can do to make that change? |
| 03:01:17 | <breakpoint> | i tried switching out `[0..]` for `[0,1,2,3]` but this did not work, unfortunately |
| 03:11:28 | <geekosaur> | can you use xev to make sure the key you're using sends XK_KP_Next? |
| 03:12:30 | <geekosaur> | (I'm on a laptop without a keypad so I can't verify, but I don't think PC keypads support that normally?) |
| 03:13:22 | <breakpoint> | @geekosaur sure. just checked; KP_3 corresponds to KP_NEXT. from the pastebin, after checking with xev, Insert, End, Down and Next correspond to KP 0, 1, 2, and 3, respectively |
| 03:13:23 | <lambdabot> | Unknown command, try @list |
| 03:14:09 | <geekosaur> | hm |
| 03:14:31 | <geekosaur> | I don't see anything wrong with your code so if the keysyms are correctthis should work |
| 03:14:55 | <breakpoint> | i could try and substitute in the raw numbers? so, xK_1? |
| 03:15:32 | <geekosaur> | (I also doublechecked that we do support using more than 3 screens, which isn't well tested since the core mod-{w,e,r} keybinds only support screens 0-2) |
| 03:15:55 | <geekosaur> | xK_1 would be the key on the top row, not the keypad |
| 03:16:20 | <breakpoint> | oh yes, i just meant in case there is something specifically to do with it not picking up the keypad. |
| 03:16:37 | <breakpoint> | ah |
| 03:16:49 | <geekosaur> | if it weren't picking up the keypad then none of the binds would work, I'd think |
| 03:17:08 | <breakpoint> | it was my silly mistake |
| 03:17:22 | <breakpoint> | 'xK_END' |
| 03:17:34 | <breakpoint> | should be 'xK_KP_End' |
| 03:17:34 | <geekosaur> | ah, whoops |
| 03:17:37 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 03:17:51 | <breakpoint> | haha well, all's well that ends well :) |
| 03:17:54 | <breakpoint> | thank you for your help |
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| 06:30:05 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Ulrik de Muelenaere * v0.18.0-9-gaec21860: X.U.EZConfig: Fix checkKeymap warning that all keybindings are duplicate (6 hours ago, 2 files, 6+ 2-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/aec21860bae7 |
| 06:30:08 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib Tony Zorman {GitHub} * v0.18.0-10-gc8dff5e2: Merge pull request #874 from ulrikdem/ezconfig-duplicate (5 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/c8dff5e2dc56 |
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| 08:59:48 | <utis> | is anyone using fixed misc 6x13 for xmobar? it's said to be possible by setting the font to "Fixed 8", but that doesn't work for me (i get something sort of similar, but antialiased an /not/ 6x13). i assume that the required ucs-fonts package is the same that comes with x11 and is used by xterm. |
| 09:00:04 | <utis> | s/an/and |
| 09:48:12 | <utis> | nevermind, i see my assumption was wrong |
| 10:21:42 | <liskin> | I think I am using that font, but I'm still on the pre-pango/cairo version of xmobar so I just use the XLFD font name |
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| 15:15:07 | <xmonadtrack> | New xmonad-contrib branch created: pull/875 (1 commit) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/875 |
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| 16:10:37 | <xmonadtrack> | xmonad-contrib mislavzanic {Brandon S Allbery KF8NH} * v0.18.0-11-gbfe2f5b3: feat: add profiles (2 days ago, 3 files, 551+ 0-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/bfe2f5b3f9fa |
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| 16:26:57 | <Solid> | that was… quite fast for such a big PR :) |
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| 18:24:37 | <beastwick> | I am trying out planar workspaces, and I am trying to bind movement to my mouse. I am following the docs, and I do not understand why a parameter is being applied to the rest of the code line even though I am using parenthesis. https://pastebin.com/dkcm1XjJ https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib/XMonad-Actions-Plane.html |
| 18:40:10 | <geekosaur> | you're using parentheses incorrectly. what you wrote treats `(Lines 4)` as a function and applies it to `Circular` and `ToRight` |
| 18:40:51 | <geekosaur> | I think you want `planeMove (Lines 4) Circular ToRight)` without the outer set of parentheses |
| 18:46:27 | <geekosaur> | oh, ugh, I have one too many parenthesis there |
| 18:46:39 | <geekosaur> | planeMove (Lines 4) Circular ToRight |
| 19:12:37 | <beastwick> | Oh I get it |
| 19:12:40 | <beastwick> | let me see |
| 19:13:04 | <beastwick> | hah now planeMove is applied to too many arguments |
| 19:13:54 | <beastwick> | https://pastebin.com/a1ieBbdc |
| 19:14:13 | <beastwick> | the expected vs actual type is also confusing |
| 19:14:50 | <geekosaur> | what you're missing there is that a mouse action is passed a Window, but planeMove doesn't want one |
| 19:15:26 | <geekosaur> | so it's actually \w -> planeMove (Lines 4) Circular ToRight w |
| 19:15:35 | <beastwick> | what does \w -> mean? |
| 19:15:48 | <geekosaur> | anonymous function with parameter w |
| 19:16:00 | <beastwick> | so basically accept the window but do nothing with it |
| 19:16:29 | <beastwick> | cool works :) |
| 19:16:36 | <geekosaur> | you didn't write that though, it's adding the window to the parameters passed to planeMove and then complaining that planeMove doesn't want it |
| 19:17:05 | <beastwick> | I am confused though what is passing a window as a parameter here though? is this what additionalMouseBindings does by default? |
| 19:17:12 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 19:17:28 | <geekosaur> | because if you click on a window you presumably want to do something to it |
| 19:17:37 | <beastwick> | indeed |
| 19:17:55 | <geekosaur> | so your mouse action is passed the clicked-on window |
| 19:21:25 | <beastwick> | one more thing, is it possible to assign mod4Mask to some variable that additionalKeys/MouseBindings can use? |
| 19:21:43 | <beastwick> | I guess it's trivial to change this field if I had to, but just seems odd |
| 19:23:00 | <geekosaur> | create a binding for it and use it where you need it. |
| 19:23:28 | <geekosaur> | I was hoping I had an example but I have no mouse bindings and use additionalKeysP instead of additionalKeys |
| 19:23:46 | <beastwick> | KeysP is the emacs style right? |
| 19:23:57 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 19:24:20 | <geekosaur> | and the "M-" modifier refers to your modMask |
| 19:32:33 | <beastwick> | haha, this , ((mod4Mask .|. controlMask, button4), \w -> planeMove (Lines 4) Circular ToUp) cause xmonad to crash? close? when I go beyond the limit it looks like |
| 19:39:48 | <geekosaur> | hm, I see a lot of unchecked `!!` in the definition of that (well, of `plane` which it calls) |
| 19:40:04 | <geekosaur> | can you check your session log to see what it crashed on? |
| 19:40:16 | <geekosaur> | usually ~/.xsession-errors |
| 19:44:25 | <beastwick> | sadly nothing, tailing the file and then triggering the close/crash |
| 19:45:48 | <geekosaur> | there should be something logged if xmonad exits unexpectedly |
| 19:46:14 | <geekosaur> | how do you start xmonad? startx? display manager? if the latter, which one? |
| 19:46:20 | <beastwick> | x afterwords says fatal IO error |
| 19:46:22 | <beastwick> | startx |
| 19:47:16 | <geekosaur> | yes, it ususally does that (actually that would be X clients because the server exits when the window manager does) |
| 19:47:37 | <geekosaur> | okay, in that case it would be logged to the virtual console unless you redirect it somewhere else |
| 19:49:34 | <beastwick> | if you mean the tty terminal, that is where I see IO error and x server terminated |
| 19:49:42 | <beastwick> | i don't see any interesting info in xorg logs :( |
| 19:50:11 | <geekosaur> | right, xorg logs won't tell you anything, the server is doing a normal exit because the session leader (window manager, usually) exited |
| 19:50:38 | <beastwick> | XIO: fatal IO error 2 (No such file or directory) on X server ":0" |
| 19:50:46 | <beastwick> | after 1735 requests (1735 known processed) with 0 events remaining. |
| 19:50:58 | <beastwick> | that is from xession-errors |
| 19:51:19 | <geekosaur> | yes, that's just an X client exiting because its server connection went away |
| 19:51:27 | <beastwick> | gotcha |
| 19:51:29 | <beastwick> | so xmonad bug? |
| 19:51:39 | <beastwick> | or well, bug with the library I am using |
| 19:52:14 | <geekosaur> | I presume this is a bug in X.A.Plane but can't tell what; the error for that should precede the server shutdown and XIO errors |
| 19:52:39 | <beastwick> | could my keybind some how be triggering xmonad to close for some reason? |
| 19:52:45 | <beastwick> | as if I did a control shift q |
| 19:53:40 | <geekosaur> | I expect that planeMove is crashing, and from glancing over the code I expect it's referencing past the end of a list and (!!) is throwing an exception |
| 19:54:16 | <geekosaur> | I'm not sure we wrap those in userCode to catch exceptions |
| 19:54:24 | <beastwick> | is there a haskell debugger? something I could attach to the xmonad process and step through code? |
| 19:55:05 | <geekosaur> | since it's native code you would use gdb or lldb, but ghc's debugger support isn't very good at present |
| 19:57:51 | <geekosaur> | hm. you could change the binding to: \w -> catchX (planeMove (Lines 4) Circular ToUp) (return ()) |
| 19:58:08 | <geekosaur> | that won't make the key work but it should log the error and continue |
| 19:59:03 | <geekosaur> | (and if it does then I need to file a bug that we aren't guarding mouse bindings properly) |
| 20:03:00 | <beastwick> | okay I wrapped it in a catch, no crashing now |
| 20:03:08 | <beastwick> | but where would the caught error be printed, if at all? |
| 20:03:14 | <beastwick> | xession-serrors shows nothing |
| 20:07:46 | <geekosaur> | you're using startx so it'll be on the console |
| 20:19:45 | <geekosaur> | what version of xmonad and xmonad-contrib are you using? (I'm filing a bug report) |
| 20:22:16 | <beastwick> | xmonad-0.17.0 xmonad-contrib-0.17.0 |
| 20:26:21 | <geekosaur> | bug filed, plus I just tracked down where we're not using `userCode` or `catchX` |
| 20:26:47 | <beastwick> | I wish I knew more haskell, this language is *hard* |
| 20:27:16 | <beastwick> | and now my config is blowing up again, let me paste bin :D |
| 20:34:39 | <beastwick> | https://pastes.io/l4dvmzrhpk |
| 20:34:49 | <beastwick> | sorry for the alt paste site, pastebin isn't accepting my submission |
| 20:35:47 | <beastwick> | https://pastes.io/tacfocq0lb my config |
| 20:38:25 | <beastwick> | it doesn't like the ++ I have with what follows |
| 20:42:50 | <geekosaur> | yes, it's in the wrong place and it needs parentheses in 0.17.0 |
| 20:43:40 | <beastwick> | okay the docs are out of date then as well |
| 20:43:53 | <beastwick> | I will register tomorrow so I can contribute that way at least |
| 20:44:00 | <beastwick> | where should I put it, and what gets wrapped? |
| 20:44:25 | <beastwick> | and thankyou once again btw for all your help |
| 20:44:51 | <geekosaur> | https://pastes.io/3b1dxdhf3l |
| 20:45:00 | ← | L29Ah parts (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) () |
| 20:45:52 | <geekosaur> | if you're using the docs on xmonad.github.io then it uses the new precedence for additionalKeys, not the old one |
| 20:45:59 | <geekosaur> | but 0.17.0 has the old one |
| 20:46:22 | <geekosaur> | and in any case you are not appending your keys to the list for additionalKeys, but to the one for additionalMouseBindings |
| 20:47:54 | <geekosaur> | (xmonad.github.io documents git master, you probably want to be using https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0 |
| 20:48:09 | <beastwick> | thanks |
| 20:48:27 | <beastwick> | yeah, I for some reason thought it would just "figure" it out wherever I add it to my xconfig def |
| 20:49:01 | <beastwick> | xmonad.hs:71:91: error: parse error on input ‘)’ |
| 20:49:05 | <beastwick> | 71 | zip (zip (repeat (mod4Mask)) [xK_1..xK_9]) (map (withWorkspaceIndex S.greedyView) [1..])) |
| 20:49:18 | <beastwick> | for some reason it does not like the paren at the end |
| 20:50:50 | <geekosaur> | did you miss the added open paren on line 57? |
| 20:51:05 | <beastwick> | absolutely did |
| 20:52:37 | <beastwick> | excellent! |
| 21:00:01 | <beastwick> | any favorite haskell learning resources? I peruse learn you a good haskell from time to time |
| 21:00:29 | <beastwick> | I think (with a lot of help) I've been able to make xmonad do what I want, but running into these problems that I can't decipher is motivation crushing |
| 21:01:04 | <geekosaur> | @where wikibook |
| 21:01:05 | <lambdabot> | http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Haskell |
| 21:01:12 | <geekosaur> | @where cis194 |
| 21:01:12 | <lambdabot> | <https://github.com/byorgey/haskell-course>,<https://www.seas.upenn.edu/~cis194/spring13/lectures.html> |
| 21:01:36 | <geekosaur> | I don't like LYAH much, it shows you a lot but has no exercises to speak of so you never really learn how to use it |
| 21:04:12 | <beastwick> | thanks! |
| 21:05:23 | <geekosaur> | there's also |
| 21:05:27 | <geekosaur> | @where pih |
| 21:05:28 | <lambdabot> | "Programming in Haskell" by Graham Hutton in 2007-01-15,2016-09-01 at <http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~pszgmh/pih.html> |
| 21:05:34 | <geekosaur> | but it's not free |
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| 22:27:12 | <blooms> | @where paste |
| 22:27:12 | <lambdabot> | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com |
| 22:28:22 | <blooms> | hi there. i was wondering if someone could let me know where i might be going wrong here |
| 22:28:34 | <blooms> | i am running this xmobar file; https://paste.tomsmeding.com/2c0vEfgY |
| 22:28:54 | <blooms> | and the bar displays. the only issue is, DiskU is stuck at `Updating...` |
| 22:29:52 | <blooms> | i took a look here; https://codeberg.org/jao/xmobar-config/src/branch/master/lib/Monitors.hs and on the documentation for DiskU to get the formatting but i am not sure what i am doing wrong here |
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| 22:38:17 | <breakpoint> | sorry, just relogging |
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| 22:40:48 | <breakpoint> | sorry, back |
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| 22:48:09 | <geekosaur> | is /home a mounted filesystem, or just a directory? |
| 22:48:43 | <breakpoint> | yes, it is mounted to sda3 when running lsblk |
| 22:49:03 | <breakpoint> | as in, the mountpoint of sda3 is /home |
| 22:54:01 | <geekosaur> | hm, just noticed your template doesn't have DiskU in it, it has %wlan0% which, since you don't have a monitor for that, is being run as a command |
| 22:55:40 | <breakpoint> | ah. you are completely correct. not sure why i keep missing these typos and mistakes |
| 22:55:51 | <breakpoint> | but thank you for pointing that out. it all works as intended now :) |
| 23:09:17 | <geekosaur> | come to think of it, is that time right? 6 seconds? |
| 23:12:25 | <breakpoint> | oh, i just thought it might be better to leave the polling for longer as i may not need the information immediately |
| 23:12:45 | <breakpoint> | but i wasn't sure how much it added to keep it at something lower like 20 or 10 |
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| 23:14:52 | <geekosaur> | probably not very much since it won't be spawning an external command |
| 23:15:17 | <breakpoint> | ah i see. i will set it to 10 then :) |
| 23:15:19 | <geekosaur> | but 6 seconds seemed kinda weird and I was wondering if you had assumed it was in seconds or something (it's tenths of a second) |
| 23:16:11 | <breakpoint> | oh, i see. i wasn't sure to be honest. i was going to test it a bit later by moving some large files back and forth. i was trying to find where it mentioned refresh rate units but couldn't find it in the documentation |
| 23:16:43 | <breakpoint> | by the way, would you happen to know if there's any way to rearrange the disku output? the documentation says it ignores `-t` |
| 23:17:02 | <breakpoint> | but it is unfortunately showing the 3 drives i am tracking in the wrong order |
| 23:17:08 | <breakpoint> | https://codeberg.org/xmobar/xmobar/src/branch/master/doc/plugins.org#user-content-headline-45 |
| 23:17:54 | <geekosaur> | I'm not that much of an expert on xmobar, I've never used it |
| 23:18:04 | <breakpoint> | ah i see. no problem then :) |
| 23:18:11 | <geekosaur> | I know just enough to answer simple questions about it, sometimes referring to the documentation |
| 23:18:26 | <breakpoint> | do you use a different bar? or just none at all? |
| 23:18:33 | <geekosaur> | looks like the refresh parameter is described at the end of https://codeberg.org/xmobar/xmobar/src/branch/master/doc/plugins.org#user-content-default-arguments |
| 23:18:44 | <geekosaur> | mate-panel via xmonad-log-applet |
| 23:18:55 | <geekosaur> | since I run xmonad as window manager for mate |
| 23:19:24 | <breakpoint> | ah right. thank you for the link as well. seems i missed it |
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