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06:47:14 <deebo> what's a good way to find out e.g. what '=?' in my managehook actually means? and what others are available (need a 'starts with' match for wm_name)
06:47:39 <deebo> with enshittification of google it's impossible to search for these funky operators :)
06:52:36 <[Leary]> deebo: https://hoogle.haskell.org/?hoogle=%3D%3F%20package%3Axmonad%20package%3Axmonad-contrib
06:52:52 <[Leary]> You can also search by type: https://hoogle.haskell.org/?hoogle=Query+a+-%3E+a+-%3E+Query+Bool+package%3Axmonad+package%3Axmonad-contrib&scope=set%3Astackage
06:59:42 <deebo> hmm, WM_NAME(STRING) = "Commit: somefileingit" -> , title ^? "Commit:" --> doCenterFloat doesn't seem to match, though i guess the title can change after creation
07:00:39 <deebo> or is title ^? "Commit:" wrong way round :) functional stuff wrinkles my brain
07:02:26 <[Leary]> Swapping the argument order would be a type error.
07:03:34 <[Leary]> And window properties often are often changed after creation, especially titles. You probably need X.H.DynamicProperty.
07:13:19 <deebo> is something omitted in https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-DynamicProperty.html examples, unless i'm functionally stupid, the first real snippet has an extra trailing )
07:13:53 <deebo> also was that deprecated 17->18? so the new version is only in contrib 0.18 (on fedora currently have contrib 0.17.1
07:14:25 <deebo> documentation could use "since" and "not after"
07:21:24 <[Leary]> You can search the changelog if you really need to know what happened and when, but iirc it was just a needless module renaming.
07:21:32 <[Leary]> The trailing ) should just be a typo.
07:26:40 <geekosaur> yes
07:28:27 <deebo> but yeah got it working after stumbling with the versions, thanks
07:29:43 <geekosaur> and yes, someone grumped about the naming
07:32:00 geekosaur waits for the bot to update
07:32:27 <xmonadtrack> xmonad-contrib Brandon S Allbery KF8NH {GitHub} * v0.18.0-22-g78bad115: remove extraneous ) in docstring (3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/78bad1157835
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07:53:03 <deebo> produces quite an annoying flicker this one, wonder if there's a way to remedy it
07:53:29 <deebo> i have all my IDE instance in the same workspace in a tabbed layout, so the window first goes to the tabbed layout and then pops out
07:54:40 <deebo> could i delay it somehow? the IDE spawns an extra window, with same wm_class 'jetbrains-idea', but the title will have the "Commit: abcfile.txt" title
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18:01:03 <ianliu> When sharing my screen with Slack Huddle, I know that viewers can draw on the screen, which should spawn a transparent window over my desktop which slack draws on. But while using xmonad, I don't see anything. Is it possible that xmonad is sending this window to the background, under other windows?
18:01:11 <ianliu> How could I debug this?
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18:03:53 <geekosaur> it should be on top since it'll be a fixed size window which gets floated
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18:04:32 <geekosaur> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.18.0/docs/XMonad-Hooks-ManageDebug.html#v:debugManageHookOn might be helpful
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18:06:36 <ianliu> thanks
18:07:22 <ianliu> will try that!
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