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Logs on 2025-06-03 (liberachat/#xmonad)

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01:59:18 <haskellbridge> <absta> How is the Wayland implementation going?
01:59:37 <haskellbridge> <absta> I guess writing Haskell FFI is a pain..
02:07:34 <geekosaur> https://discourse.haskell.org/t/haskell-wlroots-bindings/8426 https://discourse.haskell.org/t/tiny-wlhs-a-hybrid-haskell-and-c-wayland-compositor/10803 now you know as much as I do
02:09:15 <haskellbridge> <absta> Seems like it stalled..
02:10:43 <geekosaur> yes 😞
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02:49:39 <haskellbridge> <absta> I guess there are not enough interest in it..
02:50:30 <haskellbridge> <absta> geekosaur: How do you think about trying yourself? I heard XOrg is going to be deprecated soon
02:50:54 <geekosaur> neither liskin nor I know enough about Wayland to do it
02:52:06 <haskellbridge> <absta> Owww
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02:58:09 <haskellbridge> <absta> Is Wayland protocol quite difficult to learn? Or is it the depth you have to know about it?
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03:08:22 <geekosaur> the latter
03:08:38 <geekosaur> you can't just write a window manager, you have to write a whole compositor
03:25:34 <haskellbridge> <absta> Welp, TinyWM example looked rather simple to me..
03:27:24 <haskellbridge> <absta> BTW Last I checked, progress has stopped before building a proper Wayland haskell binding
03:27:37 <haskellbridge> <absta> I guess it takes lots of effort
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05:00:32 <deebo> yeah testing hyprland on personal laptop, just to get better hidpi support without headaches, no big feature gaps for my use
05:00:55 <deebo> but hope xmonad gets there too, long streak to break by swapping :)
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10:11:44 <yaslam> I believe for Wayland you need to have knowledge about graphics programming, similar to game development
11:56:02 <haskellbridge> <Tranquil Ity> yaslam: Not really no
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11:56:09 <haskellbridge> <Tranquil Ity> Not really no
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11:58:13 <haskellbridge> <Tranquil Ity> absta: The protocol is a bit painful but much less atrocious than X11
11:58:13 <haskellbridge> If you ignore NVIDIA, the main thing is various edge cases in buffer imports, and modesetting things correctly + doing page flips right
12:12:44 <haskellbridge> <Tranquil Ity> Like yes you need basics of 2D graphics programming. You need to know what a buffer is, what blitting means, how blending works.
12:13:09 <haskellbridge> <Tranquil Ity> But most gamedev is not concerned with that so
14:35:32 <yaslam> I see thanks
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