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| 15:57:11 | <f-a> | Hello xmonad users. I would like to have something to remind me the battery is low. (sound? message?) Which is a good, lightweight option? I use xmonad without a DE. |
| 16:01:46 | <geekosaur> | xmobar has a battery indicator. most others are XDG indicator applets for which you want trayer |
| 16:01:46 | <L29Ah> | f-a: i use acpid + dunst |
| 16:02:35 | <L29Ah> | also on a dedicated workspace i have an one character high screen-wide urxvt window with miscellaneous stats including battery charge and power |
| 16:07:36 | <f-a> | yes I should have specified, low battery bites me when I am watching a video or playing backgammon, so not keeping an eye on tmux status bar (where the charge % is indicated) |
| 16:23:44 | <Leary> | Could try 'upower-notify', though I'd be tempted to just write a cron job. |
| 16:24:34 | <f-a> | mhhh |
| 16:24:37 | <f-a> | that could work |
| 16:27:05 | <f-a> | emh, what do xmonad people use to, uhhh, receive/display notifications? |
| 16:28:50 | <Leary> | I use dzen2. |
| 16:28:53 | <f-a> | thanks |
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| 17:22:35 | <L29Ah> | dunst |
| 17:23:27 | <f-a> | dunst seems nice and light too |
| 17:49:32 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> does anyone have a good recommendation for like a settings app, like one manage network settings and display refresh rate. I have found an app for network management but it would be nice to have it in a single app like a normal desktop system |
| 17:51:05 | <L29Ah> | try kde or gnome |
| 17:51:45 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> If I install the kde setttings manager does it have a ton of dependencies or is it not terrible |
| 17:52:51 | <L29Ah> | i have no clue, but i find the requirement that you gave necessarily resulting in tons of dependencies and being terrible |
| 17:53:02 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> fair |
| 21:17:40 | <geekosaur> | personally, I use Mate because it's smaller than KDE or Gnome and it's relatively easy to integrate XMonad with it (see the wiki) |
| 21:39:53 | <liskin> | f-a: I just use this simple thing - https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/home/bin/liskin-battery-watch |
| 21:41:18 | <liskin> | It's possible it can be made simpler with upower but up until very recently it was impossible to configure it to not do stuff on its own |
| 21:41:29 | <liskin> | And the maintainers are arrogant dickheads |
| 21:41:46 | <f-a> | mhhhhhhhh I see. Thanks! I will look into it |
| 21:41:59 | <f-a> | eh not cool (dickheads maintainers) |
| 22:02:11 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> I can't even figure out how to change the refresh rate with the command line on nix os aaa |
| 22:03:22 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> I was trying to not use a desktop enviroment but maybe I should just set it up with mate or something small (is xfce smaller I wonder) |
| 22:03:54 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> would make all this a lot simpler |
| 22:08:29 | <geekosaur> | xfce is smaller, lxde / lxqt should be smaller yet |
| 22:09:17 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> cool xfce is what I'm building now |
| 22:11:38 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> I quite like how I can sortof replicate my system with the nix config makes all this tweaking a lot easier really |
| 22:12:54 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> hooray it works great for setting the refresh rate |
| 22:13:16 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> and it looks identical minus the old screen tearing nice |
| 22:15:55 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> hmm do I still need picom with xfce or is a compositor included |
| 22:18:46 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> ah I still need picom |
| 22:19:31 | <geekosaur> | I think only Gnome and KDE come with compositors, and you lose KDE's if you use xmonad as window manager instead. (You can't replace Gnome's; you can only use its utilities.) |
| 22:20:17 | <geekosaur> | likewise with Mate if you replace marco with xmonad you lose compoositing and will need picom to get it back |
| 22:21:02 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> huh interesting |
| 22:21:26 | <geekosaur> | (I don't think marco has compositing actually built in, it just runs an external one for you. Which I'm not sure) |
| 22:21:33 | <geekosaur> | *which one |
| 22:23:27 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> well this is working pretty nice now I'm really liking xmonad even if I have to configure it with this arcane haskell language (I'm I think a decent programmer and this haskell stuff is crazy) |
| 22:24:01 | <geekosaur> | it'll take some getting used to if you're used to OO languages; functional programming is quite different |
| 22:24:40 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> well I'm mostly just used to C and C++ I guess (and a little bit of Go, python, JS, typescript) |
| 22:25:44 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> and I try to avoid OO junk which might make me even further from understanding functional programming |
| 22:26:17 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> seems like an interesting concept though |
| 22:27:05 | <geekosaur> | OO won't help with FP at all; in some ways they're opposites |
| 22:27:49 | <geekosaur> | even Haskell's typeclasses, which look vaguely like OO at first blush, are very differemt and work in ways that OO programmers are likely to consider "backwards" |
| 22:28:15 | <haskellbridge> | <austin128> interesting |
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