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06:22:52 <haskellbridge> <Solid> geekosaur: I guess we can prune a few of the people who haven't been around for years if you want, but I don't see either of those names as being a big risk
06:28:52 <deebo> xmonad + haskell is in itself true security through obscurity :)
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09:24:51 <Enrico63> Hi all, is there anybody available for "reviewing" an xmonad.hs file? Nothing thorough, I'd just like to know if my setup is resonably ok or it has some very ancient deprecated stuff.
09:24:51 <Enrico63> Background: I've been happily using xmonad+xmobar for the last few years, but only in last few days I've hit https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/245 and successfully adopted the suggested solution of using `refocusLastLayoutHook` and `focusTracking`. I see, however, also the usage of `avoidStruts`, which I don't know what it is.. apparently is
09:24:52 <Enrico63> for avoiding xmonad windows overlapping with other entitites such as xmobar, but I'm not using `avoidStruts` and yet my (non-floating) windows are not overlapping with xmobar. So I wandered more generally about my whole setup.
09:26:13 <Enrico63> Oh, my xmobar.hs is here: https://gist.github.com/Aster89/34747b2ef46bb5e21cc634a87c1d2db1
09:42:33 <haskellbridge> <Solid> Enrico63: The "withEasySB" function that you use automatically adds "avoidStruts", so you don't have to worry about it
09:43:14 <haskellbridge> <Solid> In general it looks like you went through (at least parts of) the tutorial, which is generally up-to-date and not super deprecated, in the way a few old config might be
09:43:26 <haskellbridge> <Solid> So I wouldn't worry :)
09:51:51 <Enrico63> Thanks!
10:41:07 <Enrico63> I have another question: I've just tried the magnifiers, and I have the feeling that something is off as regards the reloading of xmonad.
10:41:07 <Enrico63> Say I this layout:
10:41:08 <Enrico63> ```
10:41:08 <Enrico63> threeCol = magnifiercz 1.1 $ ThreeColMid nmaster delta ratio
10:41:09 <Enrico63> ```
10:41:09 <Enrico63> It works. Now I change it to 1.3, and restart xmonad in place. It takes its time to compile but then I don't see the change in the factor.
10:41:10 <Enrico63> So I revert moentarily to
10:41:10 <Enrico63> ```
10:41:11 <Enrico63> threeCol = ThreeColMid nmaster delta ratio
10:41:11 <Enrico63> ```
10:41:12 <Enrico63> rebuild in place, and then change it
10:41:12 <Enrico63> ```
10:41:13 <Enrico63> threeCol = magnifiercz 1.3 $ ThreeColMid nmaster delta ratio
10:41:13 <Enrico63> ```
10:41:14 <Enrico63> and rebuild in place. Now I do see the change in the magnifying factor.
10:41:14 <Enrico63> It looks like changing the magnifier and recompiling is not enough for xmonad to digetst the change, and I always have to pass by a non-magnified layout compilation to be able to actually change the layout.
10:41:15 <Enrico63> Is this some known issue?
10:45:00 <Leary> Enrico63: Yes. xmonad can't distinguish static from dynamic configuration changes, so it errs on the side of preserving dynamic config. There's a default binding to load new/default layout config on the current workspace: Mod+Shift+Space
10:56:21 <Enrico63> Where in the world do I find the default configuration of xmonad? I see the datatype at https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-0.18.0/docs/src/XMonad.Core.html#XConfig but where do I find the values of the defaults?
10:57:28 <Enrico63> I have M+S+space bound to another action, so I'd like add a custom key binding, but I don't know what to bind it to
10:58:32 <Leary> Enrico63: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-0.18.0/docs/src/XMonad.Config.html#keys
11:39:17 <Enrico63> Wow, I've spent the last half an hour trying to get this mapping working, and the reason why it wouldn't I think it's unrelatred to xmonad, but maybe you can help.
11:39:17 <Enrico63> My config looked like this:
11:39:18 <Enrico63> ```
11:39:18 <Enrico63> myConfig = def
11:39:19 <Enrico63>     { terminal = "urxvt"
11:39:19 <Enrico63>     , modMask = mod4Mask
11:39:20 <Enrico63>     }
11:39:20 <Enrico63>     `additionalKeysP` myKeys
11:39:21 <Enrico63> myKeys = ("M-<Space>", sendMessage NextLayout)
11:39:21 <Enrico63>        : ("M-S-<Space>", spawn "rofi -show combi -theme sidebar.rasi")
11:39:22 <Enrico63>        -- more stuff
11:39:22 <Enrico63>        : []
11:39:23 <Enrico63> ```
11:39:23 <Enrico63> where I don't want to change the mapping on "M-S-<Space>" that, as you made me notice, is shadowing the command to reload the config.
11:39:24 <Enrico63> So I've opted for adding this in `myConfig`, inside the curly braces:
11:39:24 <Enrico63> ```
11:39:25 <Enrico63>     , keys = \l -> M.adjust (const $ setLayout $ XMonad.layoutHook l)
11:39:25 <Enrico63>                                         (modMask l .|. shiftMask, xK_o)
11:49:26 <fizzie> There's no existing binding for M-S-o, and M.adjust only changes existing values for keys that already exist in the map: https://hackage-content.haskell.org/package/containers-0.8/docs/Data-Map-Internal.html#v:adjust
11:49:37 <fizzie> You likely wanted M.insert instead.
11:49:48 <fizzie> (It'll replace existing values too.)
11:50:31 <Leary> Enrico63: I suggest something like this: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/R2BEETca
11:51:32 <Leary> Well, flip the order of `<>` I guess, since `Map` is left-biased.
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12:13:33 <Enrico63> fizzie, aaaarg, thanks!
12:16:48 <Enrico63> And also Leary, thanks for the approach to clean the code up
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