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| 22:43:28 | <liskin> | geekosaur, Solid: I just realised I can invoice £1000 a year without registering or filing/paying taxes or anything; and I'm thinking maybe it'd be okay if I did actually do that, let's say for "CI maintenance" or something; what do folks think? |
| 22:44:13 | <liskin> | I mean not from now till eternity - just once and then revisit in a year whether I've managed to find time to be useful again or not |
| 22:46:26 | <geekosaur> | You folks supported me when I needed it, I'm fine with it |
| 22:47:13 | <liskin> | you shouldn't have paid it back though, that set an awkward precedent :-) |
| 22:53:18 | <geekosaur> | enh, that's just me. up to everyone else whether it's required, but I intended to pay it back when I could and I think I said so when I asked for it |
| 22:54:17 | <geekosaur> | further example, I found a dropped purse with a pretty clear indication of who it belonged to the other night. many people I know would take some or all of the money in it as a "finder's fee" but I consider that theft |
| 22:59:32 | <geekosaur> | in any case, I knew what my needs were and that I would at some point be able to pay it back, so I specified that. I don't know Solid's case but I know enough from how people are suffering recently here that I can easily see that he might need it to live on and maybe not in a position to pay it back; fine |
| 22:59:55 | <liskin> | I certainly hope most people in free software communities would not take money out of a purse as finders fee |
| 23:00:35 | <liskin> | and I also hope people in those communities consider it okay to get paid for expert labour :-) |
| 23:00:42 | <geekosaur> | sure, but I wasn't talking about a free software community |
| 23:01:50 | <geekosaur> | (in particular, at the time I was living out of a homeless shelter and yeh, most of the people there would and at least some of them had sufficient need) |
| 23:02:07 | <liskin> | right, that makes sense |
| 23:05:49 | <liskin> | I don't _need_ the money per se, but it enables me to take more time recovering from burnout (which is going surprisingly well the last few weeks) and potentially even spend time working on free software again (which was the original idea of seeking donations for the project in the first place - to enable some of us to spend time on xmonad without worrying about rent and having to work full-time on |
| 23:05:51 | <liskin> | some commercial crap) |
| 23:06:30 | <liskin> | I mean I am actually doing some CI maintenance right now, but that's mainly motivated by there being too many emails about it in my inbox :-D |
| 23:08:14 | <geekosaur> | oh, whoops, missed who asked :/ |
| 23:08:21 | <geekosaur> | was actually on my phone when I got it |
| 23:08:35 | <geekosaur> | so I caught Solid but not thatyou were asking |
| 23:09:08 | <liskin> | so anyway, I intend to burn the money on rent/food/beer, and do not intend to pay it back even if I theoretically could, because I think it's in line with what we've been raising it for |
| 23:09:17 | <geekosaur> | ah, so you were the one who handled the dependabot stuff? was wondering because I didn't see any commit messages |
| 23:09:49 | <liskin> | yeah, I didn't open a PR, it's just mundane stuff - and then dependabot noticed its PRs aren't needed any more |
| 23:10:12 | <geekosaur> | and yeh, not entirely different here except that all I needed it for was rent; my sister was able to cover the rest |
| 23:10:55 | <geekosaur> | including taking over my cellphone bill (she still has it in fact, but I'm sending her a check every month now because I can afford ot) |
| 23:11:11 | <liskin> | xmonad core repo will be a bit trickier as we still need the HEADHACKAGE/allow-newer kludges |
| 23:15:48 | <geekosaur> | I should have just pushed those PRs in, but of late I've been (a) going to doctor appointments (b) trying to push stuff into cabal (Hackage instability has been making them time out and abort CI) (c) trying to catch up on household stuff not done because of (a) |
| 23:16:13 | <geekosaur> | 4 doctor appointments each the last two weeks (plus a day lost to laundry weekly) |
| 23:16:33 | <liskin> | the hackage release patch needed adjusting anyway, so merging those PRs wouldn't have been quite correct anyway |
| 23:16:44 | <geekosaur> | down to 2 the next couple weeks, then hopefully just 1, then in a month or so those should end |
| 23:18:38 | <liskin> | actually the patch didn't even apply because I hand-edited the last haskell-ci-update PRs and forgot to update the patch |
| 23:19:08 | <liskin> | well fingers crossed for your health |
| 23:19:27 | <liskin> | mine seems to be dependent on sunlight, which we don't get much of lately :-) |
| 23:21:21 | <geekosaur> | we seem to be opposites there, since one of my problems is sensory hypersensitivity and sunlight even with 2 layers of dark glasses is sometimes too much… |
| 23:21:45 | <geekosaur> | (in fact it seems to be general nervous system overstimulation/overactivity) |
| 23:23:43 | <liskin> | I struggle in dark noisy clubs but give me sunny smelly nature all day all year :-) |
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| 23:37:48 | <geekosaur> | I like nature but let's make it a forest or at least woods please ☺ |
| 23:58:21 | <liskin> | :-) |
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