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00:40:08 <liskin> Maybe we just care too much
00:41:22 <liskin> You're not meant to read the code, just like you don't read the generated assembly unless you're not getting the vector instructions you hoped for
00:41:51 <liskin> Don't think I can rewire my brain for that just yet
00:42:15 <liskin> Also it's sunny so fuck computers let's attach wheels to feet and drink
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07:38:31 <haskellbridge> <g​alactic_starfish> liskin: I tend to kick off a GitHub cloud agent whenever I find a bug in software I use myself. And then if it works OK after I go and build it later, then I consider contributing a more clean version back to the main repo. But yeah, slow af
07:39:24 <haskellbridge> <g​alactic_starfish> or edge in my usecase *
07:43:53 <haskellbridge> <g​alactic_starfish> I have been enjoying copilot + good design / architecture efforts and APOSD principles in prompt form... It has been working well professionally, as well as in my hobby projects.
07:45:06 <haskellbridge> <g​alactic_starfish> I also review everything manually... But most of it tends to be a skim. I also have the agent pause after every TODO step and I'll either adjust its implementation or give it clarifying details that it missed or I didn't specify.
07:45:43 <haskellbridge> <g​alactic_starfish> Subagents are also crucial... Long running agents have too much context drift / rot... It quickly goes off the rails if it's anything but CRUD.
07:46:11 <haskellbridge> <g​alactic_starfish> That said, these experiences are mostly in C#, Java, Typescript and Nix... Not Haskell.
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19:25:02 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> liskin: Yeah, I'm definitely not ready for that :D
19:25:55 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> Maybe it's because I don't do this for a job (yet, I guess, with the current situation in academia…), but I was always a bit of a "the path is the goal" type of person
19:26:47 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> So using these things for most (all? some?) of my coding just feels like I should rather change the kinds of projects I'm working on, if they're that boring I want to outsource them
19:28:24 <haskellbridge> <S​olid> That said, trying to clone "wayland-rs" does sound like something I might want to try next week-ish (from some preliminary tests it's not going super well though… it wanted to use "peek" and "unsafePerformIO" for reading the wire protocol from a bytestring :D Three more cleanup commits it is)
19:49:25 <geekosaur> write the core, aibro contrib? 😛
19:51:10 <geekosaur> the real question isn't about protocols anyway, it's how do you replace things we use a lot but barely exist (if that much) in wayland. like ManageHooks really wanting Xrm foo that nobody uses even in the X11 world these days
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21:19:19 <haskellbridge> <g​alactic_starfish> Solid: For me, it's less boredom, more that I have so many ideas that implementation speed becomes a very real bottleneck. It's more of a design process, and less of a coding one.
21:19:22 <haskellbridge> I totally get enjoying the fine-grained details though. For the longest while I've enjoyed surmounting direct implementation hurdles.
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23:11:37 <haskellbridge> <i​qubic (she/her)> How does the default XMonad application launcher work? I'm using "XMonad.Prompt.Shell" to be my program launcher. How can I add new "*.desktop" files to it so that I can launch my own programs from the launcher?
23:35:06 <geekosaur> that doesn't use desktop files at all; it just throws it at the shell. you would have to extract the `Exec` line from a `*.desktop` file to see how to run it from the shell
23:37:53 <geekosaur> I don't see a prompt (or anything else for that matter) to use `xdg-open` to run desktop files. but you could probably run it directly (note that it takes a file to be opened and uses the desktop files to select an application; you don't run desktop files diretcly)

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