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2020-09-24 17:14:13 <AWizzArd> maerwald: your alternative?
2020-09-24 17:14:39 <maerwald> AWizzArd: gitea, but I don't do CI there
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2020-09-24 17:14:49 <maerwald> it has some integration, but I don't know how good
2020-09-24 17:15:25 <AWizzArd> maerwald: I am using gitea right now. Plus Jenkins.
2020-09-24 17:15:51 <AWizzArd> I miss commenting commits and would like to have integrated ci.
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2020-09-24 17:23:31 <maerwald> I miss Software not pissing me off
2020-09-24 17:24:11 <geekosaur> that happened at some point?
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2020-09-24 17:25:04 <maerwald> you missed it...
2020-09-24 17:25:54 <sm[m]> That is a feature more software should prioritise
2020-09-24 17:25:57 hackage rpmbuild-order 0.4.3.1 - Order RPM packages by dependencies https://hackage.haskell.org/package/rpmbuild-order-0.4.3.1 (JensPetersen)
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2020-09-24 17:30:13 <maerwald> sm[m]: I believe it was better 20 years ago. It just had less features
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2020-09-24 17:36:00 <sm[m]> I remember a lot of swearing at broken joysticks and unreliable tape drives. Strangely the software doesn't stand out, maybe you're right
2020-09-24 17:36:21 <sm[m]> limited well defined scope
2020-09-24 17:37:06 <sm[m]> and very simple dependencies at all times
2020-09-24 17:37:29 <geekosaur> I kept running into software that didn't do what it was supposed to, starting with a crashing bug in my first computer (granting it was an uncommon machine)
2020-09-24 17:37:43 <geekosaur> guess I always had the wrong software/hardware
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2020-09-24 17:38:19 <sm[m]> I'm sure you're more on the mark, I've just forgotten
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2020-09-24 17:39:32 <sm[m]> Sinclair computers used to crash when you wobbled the ram pack
2020-09-24 17:39:32 <davean> I remember a lot of limits, but rarely anger inducing things. One bug stands out strongly, and that was with RPM package management ...
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2020-09-24 17:56:51 <AWizzArd> How can I see with cabal the exact version of my dependencies?
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2020-09-24 17:59:15 <sclv> AWizzArd: `cabal freeze` will generate a freeze file with exact versions
2020-09-24 17:59:36 <sclv> you can then delete the file or move it to prevent it from "locking in" those deps to future runs
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2020-09-24 18:00:52 <AWizzArd> sclv: that looks good. The output file that you expect is named `cabal.config` yes?
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2020-09-24 18:04:38 <sclv> with recent cabal the file is cabal.project.freeze
2020-09-24 18:04:49 <sclv> with cabal version 2 its something else
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2020-09-24 18:07:26 <AWizzArd> sclv: thx!

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