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2020-09-18 09:02:42 <int-e> dminuoso: how should cabal-install know that it's not two different versions of the same package?
2020-09-18 09:03:50 <int-e> (hmm, there was no need for that highlight)
2020-09-18 09:04:18 <dminuoso> Is that even supported?
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2020-09-18 09:05:26 <int-e> I don't know. I thought all the "new" nix-style stuff was meant to support this as well.
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2020-09-18 09:06:59 <dminuoso> Well coexistence in the store. If this was in the same build plan, either there'd be no interop possible or you could have incoherent code
2020-09-18 09:07:14 <dminuoso> So Im not quite sure what benefit you'd have if there was two different packages of the same version
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2020-09-18 09:07:26 <dminuoso> err, two different versions of the same package >:)
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2020-09-18 09:07:41 <int-e> But there is the diamond problem, so doing this on a project level needs a distinction between internal and externally visible dependencies and I'm not up-to-date on whether this exists or not.
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2020-09-18 09:08:11 <int-e> dminuoso: Well in a world where all your projects share a single store...
2020-09-18 09:08:22 <int-e> ...some of which may be stable and others may be living on the edge...
2020-09-18 09:08:40 <int-e> I think there's a benefit of having multiple versions of the same package in the store.
2020-09-18 09:08:50 <dminuoso> well, if you have incompatible version bounds on some shared dependency, then no build plan can be generated
2020-09-18 09:08:58 <dminuoso> this happens all the time when people forget to bump base bounds
2020-09-18 09:09:01 <int-e> I don't like this world. I like (soon: liked) sandboxes.
2020-09-18 09:09:09 <dminuoso> Sure, in the store!
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2020-09-18 09:09:18 <dminuoso> But not inside a package
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2020-09-18 09:10:07 <dminuoso> So Im thinking, cabal ought to just complain "there's two packages with the same name `foo`, so your dependency on `foo` is ambiguous. please fix"
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2020-09-18 09:10:23 <int-e> hmm is this some subpackage stuff?
2020-09-18 09:10:26 <dminuoso> yeah
2020-09-18 09:10:49 <int-e> Okay, yeah then I see no reason to support this.
2020-09-18 09:11:00 <dminuoso> I have foo-server/ foo-api/ and foo-api-swagger/ with the obvious dependencies.
2020-09-18 09:11:25 <dminuoso> Now, foo-api-swagger/_.cabal was copied from foo-api/_.cabal, but I forgot to change its name
2020-09-18 09:11:30 <dminuoso> (and cabal project files tie them together)
2020-09-18 09:11:52 <dminuoso> so actually
2020-09-18 09:11:56 <dminuoso> this is not subpackages
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2020-09-18 09:14:07 <int-e> right.
2020-09-18 09:14:15 <int-e> this is me lagging behind the times.
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2020-09-18 09:14:32 <int-e> (I'm still using v1 commands... will need to switch soon though.)
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2020-09-18 09:15:31 <int-e> (and my substitute for cabal projects has been sandboxes and canned add-source commands in a shell script)
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2020-09-18 09:21:53 <chreekat[m]> I use fast-tags + ghcid , and I think any improvements for me would entirely be improvements to Cabal, not to the other tools. I.e. it would be really nice to be able to repl *both* the library *and* the tests at the same time. As it is, I often have two separate windows, repl'ing the two separate components, and the test repl is further buried under `entr`...
2020-09-18 09:22:28 <chreekat[m]> I'm not saying that fast-tags + ghcid is nirvana or anything, +1 to people making better tools all around, everywhere
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